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Yeppers!! The infected earings in the ears is a sign <_< .... I get that too when I've been glutened.

Really?? What an odd symptom to get from gluten. :huh:

My ears started bothering me on Monday...the same day I had the reaction....seems like they're getting a little better already though. Weird. My ears/skin have been sensitive since I was a teenager....I cant wear junk jewelery for more than a day...not even bracelets or necklaces. I can only wear real gold and it never bothers me till I had that reaction.


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Miamia,

I found this thread about the crackers.

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dlp252 Apprentice
Yeppers!! The infected earings in the ears is a sign <_< .... I get that too when I've been glutened.

Hum, I'll have to try wearng mine again. I had to stop wearing even my 14kt stuff because my ears would get weepy, but I haven't really tried wearing earrings since going gluten-free. I LOVE earrings, lol, I have 4 holes in each ear and it kind of irked me that I couldn't wear them anymore, lol. :rolleyes:

jerseyangel Proficient

This is weird, but my ears react to jewelry when I'm glutened or am having a reaction to another food I'm intolerant to. When I was reacting to the dried fruit/Lara Bars a couple weeks ago, my ears were sensitive to my 14k gold earrings. As soon as I put them in, they weren't comfortable. This is something I'm seeing more now than when I was first gluten-free. Is there no limit to what food can do to us? :o

Green12 Enthusiast

I also can also react to jewelry when I am hyper sensitive to metals.

Rachel, it concerns me that you are still having ovary pain. Mine would usually subside after a day or two at the longest. Can you call your doctor and let them know you continue to have pain??

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
Yeppers!! The infected earings in the ears is a sign <_< .... I get that too when I've been glutened.

Fiddle-Faddle,

Did you make the bread? I was wondering if you liked it and how it came out. :)

Planning to make it tomorrow!

I started a thread a while back about being allergic to metal, but I can't find it. I gave up on earrings and necklaces years ago--I can only wear my wedding ring (I think it's 24 carat). I never thought of trying jewelry again since going gluten-free. Hmmmm...

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You're a GRANDMA??!! I thought that was your baby in the photo :blink:


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Didn't the guy who lives with the bears actually get killed by them too? I remember reading that a long time ago..both him and his girlfriend. It was really sad.

I could totally be the dolphin lady though. :D

Hey I watched that movie a few days ago. It's called "Grizzly Man" It was crazy! The guy lived with the bears every summer for 13 years. You find out early on that he gets eaten during the 13th year. He videotaped so much stuff too....it was a cool movie. Sad that he got killed of course, but the documentary was really well done.

I am soooo afraid of gators OMG Rachel I can't believe you swam in that lake!

I feel like I should say something related to corn or msg or ovaries...but I've go nothin' B)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
This is weird, but my ears react to jewelry when I'm glutened or am having a reaction to another food I'm intolerant to.

I guess alot of us have this problem....I was thinking it was just me. :blink:

I wonder why it happens though. I guess my body gets hyper sensitive cuz I'll react to more foods, chemicals, and even my good earrings. <_<

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel, it concerns me that you are still having ovary pain. Mine would usually subside after a day or two at the longest. Can you call your doctor and let them know you continue to have pain??

Yeah it concerns me too. :(

Is it even possible to have ovary pain for months and months without anything drastic happening? I've been having the pain a long time now...I've gotten used to it. I was mistaking it for my intestines though.

I did tell the doctor it was hurting bad both when I was in her office and when I spoke with her on the phone. She doesnt take me serious at all and she shows no concern. She's like all my previous docs...always assuming I'm a hypocondriach. It makes me mad....the first time I saw her was when I was weighing only 94 lbs. She actually said that was normal weight for me and not to worry about it. :blink:

That is NOT normal and on every chart I looked at for my height 94 lbs. is underweight.

She's my mom's doctor and my Mom thinks shes the greatest. I think she sucks. My Mom doesnt understand because she's not sick. She thinks its great that her doctor discusses hair color, vacations and other non-medical stuff with her. I on the other hand dont wanna spend my appt. time making small talk...I'm sick and I want to get better. Thats why I'm there. My Mom and I argue about this because she doesnt see what I see...its annoying. I want to find a doctor that cares.

The doctor did agree to refer me OBGYN after I kept complaining about the pain but the first available was 4 weeks from now.

So your pain only lasts a few days? I still dont know much about this but I guess I figured since the cysts are suppossed to be there until the period comes and goes that I would feel it until that time and then maybe if it does go away a new one starts up and the whole process starts over. So I figured I'd never really stop feeling it cuz there is always a cyst either growing or shrinking. Is this not right? :unsure:

Ha Donna... you sound like me :P I have 4 holes in one and 3 holes in the other ear and... (now don't anyone faint, remember I live in Florida, this is common) I have a belly button ring. :o Hee hee, not very grandma like huh??

Thats pretty cool that you have a belly ring!

I used to want one but then I chickened out.

I have 3 holes in one ear but only one in the other...I'm just lopsided. :P

Hey I watched that movie a few days ago. It's called "Grizzly Man" It was crazy! The guy lived with the bears every summer for 13 years. You find out early on that he gets eaten during the 13th year. He videotaped so much stuff too....it was a cool movie. Sad that he got killed of course, but the documentary was really well done.

I didnt know there was a documentary...I love watching that stuff. Is it gonna be on again? What channel did you see it on? If it was Animal Planet or Discover Channel they sometimes repeat the same shows.

I am soooo afraid of gators OMG Rachel I can't believe you swam in that lake!

Me either!! I just believed what I was told...that the gators leave people alone. I'm glad nothing happened to me though cuz I was actually skinny-dipping (I was young and it was fun) and if I'm gonna be killed by a gator I at least wanna have clothes on when they find me. :ph34r:

I feel like I should say something related to corn or msg or ovaries...but I've go nothin'

:lol::lol:

Its good that we have other stuff to talk about cuz sometimes I've got nothin' too.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
I guess alot of us have this problem....I was thinking it was just me. :blink:

I wonder why it happens though. I guess my body gets hyper sensitive cuz I'll react to more foods, chemicals, and even my good earrings. <_<

I'm still wondering if this ties in somehow with vaccines, and the preservative thimerosal, which used to be in most vaccines and is still in the flu shot, the chicken pox shot, and probably some others. It is 50% mercury--a heavy metal/b] --and there is speculation that it is involved with leaky gut...I've had interesting reactions to thimerasol in eye drops (before it was banned) and vaccines. I got little red bumps all over the whites of my eyes (doesn't that sound charming?), and with the vaccines, I would get a huge (from the size of an orange to the size of a small grapefruit) red, hot, swelling at the injection site. Anybody else ever have this?

Mango04 Enthusiast
I didnt know there was a documentary...I love watching that stuff. Is it gonna be on again? What channel did you see it on? If it was Animal Planet or Discover Channel they sometimes repeat the same shows.

Surprisingly, I found it at Blockbuster. The film was sooo interesting. Here's the website:

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tarnalberry Community Regular

I have gotten that sort of reaction to a vaccine which does NOT have thimersol in it. (The preservative used in the pneumovax that gave me that reaction is phenol.) That sort of immune reaction can happen to the vaccine itself. It's something to make sure to tell your doctor, of course, so it can be noted for future vaccinations.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Surprisingly, I found it at Blockbuster. The film was sooo interesting. Here's the website:

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Ooooh cool! I can rent it. I'm gonna have a blockbuster night :D Without popcorn. :(

I wonder if all the Blockbusters have it though...guess I'll find out. Thanks!

AndreaB Contributor
I'm still wondering if this ties in somehow with vaccines, and the preservative thimerosal, which used to be in most vaccines and is still in the flu shot, the chicken pox shot, and probably some others. It is 50% mercury--a heavy metal/b] --and there is speculation that it is involved with leaky gut...I've had interesting reactions to thimerasol in eye drops (before it was banned) and vaccines. I got little red bumps all over the whites of my eyes (doesn't that sound charming?), and with the vaccines, I would get a huge (from the size of an orange to the size of a small grapefruit) red, hot, swelling at the injection site. Anybody else ever have this?

I didn't recall varicella having mercury in it. They are now trying to make sure every pregnant woman gets the flu shot. Just one more way to mess up the developing fetus as far as I am concerned. I just with I had learned about vaccines years ago. Oh well. I'm pretty much against them but realize that it's each persons individual choice. I got my son the chickenpox vaccine because I had read CDC's site about how bad it can be. What they didn't say is when it goes around the household it is stronger and can cause fatality. My daughter had already had chickenpox when she was 11 months. I now wish I hadn't gotten it for him but I can't take it back out. Now they have to start making all these boosters because a person doesn't have permanent immunity and many of these diseases are appearing in adulthood.

Mango04 Enthusiast
Ooooh cool! I can rent it. I'm gonna have a blockbuster night :D Without popcorn. :(

I wonder if all the Blockbusters have it though...guess I'll find out. Thanks!

You will have to make it a blockbuster night with...jam...and auxigrow-free carrots (maybe not mixed together though) :D

Green12 Enthusiast
Yeah it concerns me too. :(

Is it even possible to have ovary pain for months and months without anything drastic happening? I've been having the pain a long time now...I've gotten used to it. I was mistaking it for my intestines though.

I did tell the doctor it was hurting bad both when I was in her office and when I spoke with her on the phone. She doesnt take me serious at all and she shows no concern. She's like all my previous docs...always assuming I'm a hypocondriach. It makes me mad....the first time I saw her was when I was weighing only 94 lbs. She actually said that was normal weight for me and not to worry about it. :blink:

That is NOT normal and on every chart I looked at for my height 94 lbs. is underweight.

She's my mom's doctor and my Mom thinks shes the greatest. I think she sucks. My Mom doesnt understand because she's not sick. She thinks its great that her doctor discusses hair color, vacations and other non-medical stuff with her. I on the other hand dont wanna spend my appt. time making small talk...I'm sick and I want to get better. Thats why I'm there. My Mom and I argue about this because she doesnt see what I see...its annoying. I want to find a doctor that cares.

The doctor did agree to refer me OBGYN after I kept complaining about the pain but the first available was 4 weeks from now.

So your pain only lasts a few days? I still dont know much about this but I guess I figured since the cysts are suppossed to be there until the period comes and goes that I would feel it until that time and then maybe if it does go away a new one starts up and the whole process starts over. So I figured I'd never really stop feeling it cuz there is always a cyst either growing or shrinking. Is this not right? :unsure:

The pain that I have when I am ovulating is usually a day, never more than two. This is called mittelschmertz, a term to denote midcycle pain associated with ovulation, a very common phenomenon. It is usually on one side (the side that's ovulating that cycle) and is sharp and short-lived, lasting only a few hours. Most women would not consider mittleschmertz to be excruciating (we've talked about so much I don't remember if this was brought up?) This is what I found about cysts:

"Ovarian cysts can also cause midcycle pain. Some ovarian cysts happen as a consequence of a small glitch in the normal process of ovulation, when the egg would normally be released from its follicle (the tiny pocket on the ovary in which the egg develops). Sometimes the egg fails to break out of the follicle on schedule, and instead the follicle fills with more and more fluid -- this is a cyst. Or sometimes a blood vessel in the follicle tears, and the follicle fills with blood, forming what we call a hemorrhagic cyst. Both types of cysts may cause pain and may eventually rupture, which is even more painful. Often, after a cyst ruptures, the pain will go away gradually over the course of a few days, without any other treatment."

I am wondering since you have had prolonged pain (other than midcycle pain) if it isn't something like endometriosis? This is what I found on endometriosis:

"Endometriosis itself, in which uterine lining tissue grows outside the uterus, is classically associated with pelvic pain. Although the pain may vary from person to person, the typical pattern is pain beginning midcycle and escalating through the period. There may be associated symptoms such as pain with bowel movements or diarrhea and pain with intercourse."

This is a suggestion that is made on a health website for OB/GYN issues for long term pain:

"If you have been having excruciating pain for a while, you may need to talk to your doctor about having a laparoscopy. Together you and your doctor can decide which course is best for you. If the pain persists, ask your doctor for a full workup including imaging studies. It may help determine what is causing the pain."

That would be great if you could find a doctor who will take you seriously and work with you on this, sounds like you haven't had much help from your current one. I hate it when they don't take our word for anything, I mean we know our bodies best and it gives us signs and signals all the time that things aren't right/out of balance and that fact is totally ignored in western medicine approaches.

That's my grandbaby, Ana... :D and I LOVE YOU... :lol:

She was born March 20th, she's now 3 months old.

I too was totally shocked you were a Grandma Floridian! I thought you had young kids!

I didn't recall varicella having mercury in it. They are now trying to make sure every pregnant woman gets the flu shot. Just one more way to mess up the developing fetus as far as I am concerned. I just with I had learned about vaccines years ago. Oh well. I'm pretty much against them but realize that it's each persons individual choice. I got my son the chickenpox vaccine because I had read CDC's site about how bad it can be. What they didn't say is when it goes around the household it is stronger and can cause fatality. My daughter had already had chickenpox when she was 11 months. I now wish I hadn't gotten it for him but I can't take it back out. Now they have to start making all these boosters because a person doesn't have permanent immunity and many of these diseases are appearing in adulthood.

This vaccine business scares me. I want to have kids and I don't want them to get vaccines, are there rules that you have to? How can they force us to put this poison into our bodies? It's like we don't have a say over anything.

miamia Rookie
Miamia,

I found this thread about the crackers.

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Thanks Rachel-

I've started making my own crackers and think I ma gonna stick to it plus whole foods carries these casava crackers by gluten fortitiude that I seem to be alright with. The only ingredient in the plain ones is casava pulp. I love things with one or two ingredients!!

Miamia

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Thanks Rachel-

I've started making my own crackers and think I ma gonna stick to it plus whole foods carries these casava crackers by gluten fortitiude that I seem to be alright with. The only ingredient in the plain ones is casava pulp. I love things with one or two ingredients!!

Miamia

Casava crackers? I dont think I've ever seen them at my Whole Foods. Are they with all the other crackers or somewhere else? I love anything with one or two ingredients too...that why I went for the rice snaps. Only 2 ingredients...unless you count the gluten...then theres actually 3. :lol:

Rachel--24 Collaborator
The pain that I have when I am ovulating is usually a day, never more than two. This is called mittelschmertz, a term to denote midcycle pain associated with ovulation, a very common phenomenon. It is usually on one side (the side that's ovulating that cycle) and is sharp and short-lived, lasting only a few hours. Most women would not consider mittleschmertz to be excruciating (we've talked about so much I don't remember if this was brought up?) This is what I found about cysts:

Thanks for all that info. Julie. :)

The thing is I wouldnt call my pain excrutiating at all. Its just more of a dull pain that comes and goes throughout the day. I feel it more depending on how I move...like if I bend over. The pain doesnt escalate as I get near my period either....it stays the same. Its probably at its worst when I'm ovulating. I actually had written this in my journal 2 years back. I wrote that whenever I ovulate I get worse symptoms and bad abdominal cramps.

When I spent the first 2 years at endless doctor appts I never brought up the abdominal pain because it was at the bottom of my symptom list as far as pain goes. I just never really paid alot of attention to it because other symptoms like head pain and blurred vision were far worse.

AndreaB Contributor
This vaccine business scares me. I want to have kids and I don't want them to get vaccines, are there rules that you have to? How can they force us to put this poison into our bodies? It's like we don't have a say over anything.

Julie,

Currently state have religious or someother kind of exemption. (Exemption is not the right word) I'll have to look it up. The vaccine makers are behing the law makers trying to take away our right. That very well may happen someday because of a lot of greedy people but that isn't the case right now. I don't know if you believe in God or not but the bible is clear on the wickedness of men becoming more and more prominent. Don't let the possible laws prevent you from having children though. Children are such a blessing!

mouse Enthusiast

Rachel, when I was a High School Senior, I started getting terrible stomach pains. They would send me home and a few hours later, they were gone. Finally my parents took me to a quack who said they were just growing pains. Of course, by then all of my friends thought I was a hypochondriac. After my Senior year we moved to Florida and I got a job. They pains had still come and gone. Sometimes lasting for a day or so. I was on the job 6 days, when the pains started at lunch. I did not want to lose my new job and so I toughed it out. I had to drive home with all the windows down as the pain was so bad I thought I would pass out. I went to bed. That night my Dad wanted to call a doctor and I would not let him as I had no insurance yet. By the next night he called the doctor anyway and the doctor came to the house (Yep, they used to do this). He shot me full of Morphine, saw me the next morning and operated the next day. I had pre-cancerous tumors on my ovary and appendix. He did not understand how I had stood the pain for so long. He also told me that if I had not died from a rupthered (sp) appendix in a year, I would have developed Cancer by then. I was 19. They took out my ovary and appendix. I am not trying to scare you, but I really think continued ovary pain should be definately looked into. Please consider an MRI. I sincerely hope that you feel better real soon.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
Julie,

Currently state have religious or someother kind of exemption. (Exemption is not the right word) I'll have to look it up. The vaccine makers are behing the law makers trying to take away our right. That very well may happen someday because of a lot of greedy people but that isn't the case right now. I don't know if you believe in God or not but the bible is clear on the wickedness of men becoming more and more prominent. Don't let the possible laws prevent you from having children though. Children are such a blessing!

You can have a religious or medical exemption. You can have a medical exemption for the MMR if you are allergic to eggs, for example, as the MMR is egg-based.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel, when I was a High School Senior, I started getting terrible stomach pains. They would send me home and a few hours later, they were gone. Finally my parents took me to a quack who said they were just growing pains. Of course, by then all of my friends thought I was a hypochondriac. After my Senior year we moved to Florida and I got a job. They pains had still come and gone. Sometimes lasting for a day or so. I was on the job 6 days, when the pains started at lunch. I did not want to lose my new job and so I toughed it out. I had to drive home with all the windows down as the pain was so bad I thought I would pass out. I went to bed. That night my Dad wanted to call a doctor and I would not let him as I had no insurance yet. By the next night he called the doctor anyway and the doctor came to the house (Yep, they used to do this). He shot me full of Morphine, saw me the next morning and operated the next day. I had pre-cancerous tumors on my ovary and appendix. He did not understand how I had stood the pain for so long. He also told me that if I had not died from a rupthered (sp) appendix in a year, I would have developed Cancer by then. I was 19. They took out my ovary and appendix. I am not trying to scare you, but I really think continued ovary pain should be definately looked into. Please consider an MRI. I sincerely hope that you feel better real soon.

Armetta,

Thank you so much for sharing your story.

You were very lucky that your dad had that Dr. come to your house. I'm glad it worked out for you.

You've definately given me something to think about. I dont have excrutiating pain so far...probably the worst day I ever had with the ovary pain was last week but ususally I can deal with it....it doesnt prevent me from doing anything. Can an MRI see something that the ultrasound couldnt see? Does anyone know if my appendix could also be seen on that ultrasound? Nobody ever mentioned anything about my appendix so I assumed it looks good. :unsure:

dlp252 Apprentice
Ha Donna... you sound like me :P I have 4 holes in one and 3 holes in the other ear and... (now don't anyone faint, remember I live in Florida, this is common) I have a belly button ring. :o Hee hee, not very grandma like huh??

I almost got a belly piercing, but one of my co-workers got one around the same time and she had trouble with hers to I chickened out, lol.

<------ old lady, 44 yrs old ^_^ ....I know you guys are just buttering me up (no pun intended) you want me to open a gluten free bakery and distributing center :lol::lol:

NOT OLD!!! I'm older than you so that would make me ancient, lol. I'm going to be 51 in a few days!

Okay, I finally figured out that I DO get mouth blisters. Got one this morning (or at least noticed it this morning). It definitely wasn't there yesterday...guess what I had yesterday evening...BUMBLE BAR! I know I've said on this thread before that they give me bowel noises, but I keep trying them thinking it's all in my head. I had just finished showering this morning and happened to feel it, so ran to look in the mirror--usually when I get these I'm not near a mirror so by the time I get to one, it doesn't look like a blister anymore. This one wasn't black and was hardly white, but it was definitely blister-like.

The next thing I want to test is chicken. I haven't had any in over a week and oddly enough I haven't had any leg or heel itching since then, so I want to test to see if THAT is what has been causing my itching. I've been using coconut oil on my legs for about the same amount of time, so it could be that, but I've tried lotions and creams and even vaselline before and nothing has stopped the itching, so this will be interesting.

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      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
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