Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[AndreaB]

Sometimes after eating the cereal, I feel queasy. Someone on another thread mentioned carageenan often disagrees with people. Could that be causing my sinus trouble and more stomach upset? I ate the cereal dry and was fine. Everytime I eat cereal with soymilk lately, I get a scratchy throat for hours after. I also have been eating a lot of peanut butter lately. Could that have something to do with these problems? I am so scared I am dying or something.

Carageenan is a hidden source of msg and soymilk causes a lot of people a lot of problems. It could be either causing you distress

Rinne-

so glad I have a salt buddy and since we are the rachelville chefs I guess everyone else is gonna have to jump on the band wagon.

Ok So the cranio sacral therapy was interesting.

That's right you two are the chefs so we'll always have our salt.....not too much though.

The cranio sacral sounds very relaxing. Glad you got so much out of it and a nap to boot.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Andrea,

Yep, Casper Crap! That is what it is alright! It is more humorous now that I am not dealing with it! If possible, I would like to not have one of those tests again! The whole thing is not pleasant! Especially since there is the idea Drano probably would have to be swallowed to get it out of your pipes if it did not come out on its own!

The soymilk is kind of weird. I don't know. There are times where I seem to tolerate it, and times I do not. Then there is the fact that the soymilk I was using for a while was only soy and filtered water. Carageenan could be the culprit. It is difficult to say.

Sincerely,

Jin

[AndreaB]

I figure I need to give chlorella a chance before I try anything with the anti-candida diet. I don't want to kill off candida and have mercury running around.

Does it matter if you take chlorella with or without food?

Rachel, you said it takes a couple weeks to get used to I think. I'll try and give it a couple weeks. I don't really like the nauseous feeling. If that doesn't work I'll try charcoal for something to take until I can get my teeth taken care of.

[AndreaB]

When your body detoxifies impurities you may experience a period of discomfort as these impurities are "flushed" from your system. Because chlorella is such a powerful detoxifier, I urge you to begin your chlorella regime gradually over the first few days and build up to my recommended dosage.

If you experience fatigue, lethargy, irritability, nausea or other uncomfortable conditions when starting with chlorella, try reducing the amount you are taking and build up even more slowly, as these may be symptoms associated with your body cleansing itself. However, if the symptoms are severe, or if they persist despite very low initial quantities of chlorella for the first few days, stop your chlorella regime and discuss with your personal medical practitioner.

Also please note that if you are a protein metabolic type these problems might be more severe and you should start much more slowly with one-half or even one-quarter capsule and increase the dose very carefully and slowly. Carb types seem to do much better with chlorella.

Caution: About 30% of people cannot tolerate chlorella. If at anytime one develops nausea or starts "burping up" the chlorella taste, then the chlorella should be stopped immediately as a food sensitivity is developing that will only worsen if you continue taking it.

I copied this over from mercola's site. I believe I am more of the protein type, but somewhat mixed. Talitha was burping the whole day we had this last so I won't be giving her anymore.

I'll try taking less than 1/8 tsp and see how I feel.

[dlp252]

I have been looking for Himalayan salt but can't find it anywhere. Any suggestions? Love and happy saturday to all!

Happy Saturday to you too. I found my Himalayan salt at Whole Foods, so maybe Wild Oats or other health food store would have it.

This emoticon rule is HEINOUS! I think we should petition Scott. What do you think? Maybe there is a technical element here I am missing, but isn't that limiting our expressiveness?

In Rachelville, this is very important to our individuality.

I need to be more expressive...I need a headbanging smilie!

[dlp252]

Does it matter if you take chlorella with or without food?

The bottle I have says to take it before meals...doesn't say how long before, just before, so I take it right before I eat when I take it. I need to try it again one of these days.

[AndreaB]

The bottle I have says to take it before meals...doesn't say how long before, just before, so I take it right before I eat when I take it. I need to try it again one of these days.

Thanks Donna.

I just read more on Mercola's site and he recommends taking it with meals, so right before should be good.

[AndreaB]

Ok, I just took some. Icky, icky, icky!!!

Mitch gave me about half of an 1/8th of a teaspoon.

[CarlaB]

Dear Lymies,

I am scared, because the past couple days, I have been feeling weirder than normal. (That is sad when weird is normal! ) My heart palpitations have gotten worse, and I feel like I am going to passout all the time, and very weak and tired. It is scaring me! Does Lyme do this? It started after a really bad migraine yesterday. Could my Thyroid being hyper make me feel this bad?

I am stiff, too. My jaw especially (the TMJ seems to have started some of this) is bothering me.

I feel this way often. Babs causes heart palpitations, shortness of breath, night sweats.

You might try the salt treatment. Both Rinne and I got a lot out of doing it. I got some energy back and got my basal temps up where they should be. I was taking 1/2 tsp. three times daily.

The salt/water ratio I recommended to Lisa is from "The Water Cure", which is about using water and the appropriate amount of salt, to return to health. It's more about getting hydrated, where the salt/c therapy is more about the parasites.

I got good results from the salt/c therapy. I use a lot of salt, but always of a good quality.

[Rachel--24]

Good Morning everyone.

Ok...I know its not morning anymore but I slept in for once.

Just driving by cuz I got lots to do today. The movie was great....I loved it because it had me all jumpy and scared.

I was thinking its probably not too good for my body to feel that way though.

Yeah....too much of that would have probably given me some symptoms...the same way I get all messed up from customers at work pushing my buttons.

There was lots of suspense and a few "jump out of your seat" moments. YAY.

I didnt get home till 4 and I realized I'd been up 24 hours and not feeling totally whacked out!! Usually whenever I'd stay up that long my body would start to become very symptomatic. Last night it was only my eyes getting a little sensitive and having trouble seeing in the dark. Other than that I felt pretty good!!

I dont feel like I have a hangover today.

I've also had less sleep than normal all week....so I would have expected to not be able to handle staying up that late. Maybe the candida stuff is working.

I know I'm killing the stuff but I wont get into details about that...TMI....TMI...TMI..

Donna....I TOTALLY want a head banging emoticon!! I would wear that one out.....poor little guy would have quite the headache.

Emoticon restrictions.....I feel its cruel and tortuous.

[Rachel--24]

Jin...carageenen is HEINOUS. I cant do much soymilk....but I cant do ANY carageenan....its definately one of those scary ingredients to avoid.

Where is Patti?? I dont think I've seen her for a couple days.

I dont know what Casper poops are and I think I'm grateful for that.

MiaMia....the cranisacral therapy sounds really relaxing!!! Glad you got some relief and a nice mid-day nap too!!

My Birthday is coming up and I gotta think of something fun to do...but I'm scared to get out and do stuff.

I think the more I get candida under control the less apprehensive I'll be to just get out and be adventurous...but I dont know if I can get rid of enough of it before my b-day gets here.

Oh....I ate my cookies all through the movie last night. They were a little drier than normal...my friend tried one and I didnt ask for another.

People expect cookies to be sweet...ummmm...sorry but not the case with my anti-candida cookies.

So yeah....I hope the candida are feeling the same way about the cookies that my friend did!!

I'm gonna try my castor oil pack tonight.

[rinne]

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I used what I found out at BioSET to start my base diet, and basically what is safe are meats and veggies...or, in other words, the candida diet. I've been trying to add in one at a time the other things that I tested okay for and mostly those are going okay.

I did the same thing though it was a slightly different system to diagnose my intolerances. It has helped to stay away from anything processed, grains of all kinds, nightshades and dairy in addition to the gluten.

Another thing, I just remembered that at a certain point where I was so ill I was melting that I decided to treat my stomach like a "new baby" and would only feed it what I would feed a baby, i.e. gentle foods. I combined that with a diet for ulcers and stayed away from anything acidic, peels on anything, I quit eating green peas for that reason, no pepper.... and that seemed to help too.

Rinne- you said so much in this post earlier that was so right one point about being ill for along time and not remembering how to be well- it really hit home. I can't believe sometimes when i read what all of you post how crazy it is that we all can relate to eachother so much. I feel so lucky to have found all of you!!!

I'm glad to know that it resonated with you. I feel the same way about Rachelville, so fortunate to have been found you all.

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I ahve been trying to post for FORTY FIVE MINUTES and there were TOO MANY EMOTICONS and then "the quotes don't match on opening and closing" or something like that and I tried about

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and I am .....

and now I must head out, and I had many, many quotes and many many IMPORTANT (hah) things to say and it is ALL GONE because of this

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well..... Sending love and hugs (esp. to Bev and you WILL get better!) and thanks for the windex tip and guess what else,

perfectly executed, with tweezers, fully alive and with blood on its evil little mouth, I flushed the bugger down the toilet, cursing him for all of YOU, and my audience (niece and her boyfriend) were SPINACHED at the perfectly-executed job, no strangers to wilderness travel and ticks themselves.......

gotta go to the pub now.

Dingo Girl - - OUT!

love and hugs and dang if I didn't have all sorts of things to say that didn't get said.

I love that you can be so expressive without the emoticons.

I was in bad shape. I had a bad reaction to some meds the GI doc put me on, and it went downhill from there. Then, we thought my body was shutting down, so I was taken up to IU Med for a full GI work-up. I weighed 87 pounds when I arrived, and 84 when I left. To give you an idea of how bright these geniuses in labcoats were, they could not figure out why I was losing weight since arriving! I had a colonoscopy, endoscopy, intercolisis, gastric emptying study and blood work. I had been on a liquid diet most of the time I was there! Can you say DUH?! If these idiots were supposed to be the best in the country, I would hate to see the worst!

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As far as laxatives go, avoid anything with Psyllium Husk! I got terrible cramps and diarrhea from it! Sensitive stomachs do not tolerate that stuff! Other people I spoke to said they had the same trouble with that. I would go with good old Castor Oil. I think Alfalfa is gluten free. I was taking Alfalfa tablets for a while. They are gentle. It can take up to twelve hours to work, but it is better than getting bubble guts and stomach cramps.

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[rinne]

......part two

Dear Rinne,

Now not only do we have a spinach story, we have a suana story! I think I might have panicked a bit myself. The idea of being stuck in there to waste away is terrifying! That would be scary. Maybe going in there with the door just barely closed would be better!

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Dear Lymies,

I am scared, because the past couple days, I have been feeling weirder than normal. (That is sad when weird is normal! ) My heart palpitations have gotten worse, and I feel like I am going to passout all the time, and very weak and tired. It is scaring me! Does Lyme do this? It started after a really bad migraine yesterday. Could my Thyroid being hyper make me feel this bad?

I am stiff, too. My jaw especially (the TMJ seems to have started some of this) is bothering me. I feel tension in my sinuses. I wonder if I have yeast there, too? The inside of my nostril itches all of the time and kind of burns. Plus, I have eczema. It is typical to have with yeast. My throat has been scratchy and I have had a lot of drainage in my throat since eating cereal with soymilk.

Sometimes after eating the cereal, I feel queasy. Someone on another thread mentioned carageenan often disagrees with people. Could that be causing my sinus trouble and more stomach upset? I ate the cereal dry and was fine. Everytime I eat cereal with soymilk lately, I get a scratchy throat for hours after. I also have been eating a lot of peanut butter lately. Could that have something to do with these problems? I am so scared I am dying or something.

Sincerely,

Jin

[jerseyangel]

Hi Rachel--I'm here ! Reading along, catching up with everyone.

It's been crazy here--lots going on.

Glad you enjoyed the movie!

[rinne]

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I didnt get home till 4 and I realized I'd been up 24 hours and not feeling totally whacked out!! Usually whenever I'd stay up that long my body would start to become very symptomatic. Last night it was only my eyes getting a little sensitive and having trouble seeing in the dark. Other than that I felt pretty good!!

I dont feel like I have a hangover today.

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That is great, glad you had fun at the movies though I can't imagine why anyone volunteers to be frightened.

Hi Rachel--I'm here ! Reading along, catching up with everyone.

It's been crazy here--lots going on.

Glad you enjoyed the movie!

Hi, I was wondering where you were too, glad to know you are reading along.

I'm wondering how Laura is doing.

[Rachel--24]

Well...the baking of the oats has proved to really help with the mold situation. I'm eating my cookies just fine but this would not be the case if I werent baking the oats and just eating it as cereal.

I tried to buy organic oats but the only ones they had were Bobs Red Mill extra thick oats....the quick oats werent organic. My cookies didnt work out using the thick oats. They didnt stick together....maybe I needed more eggs and shortening??

Anyways....small pieces were clumped together and it actually looked more like crunchy granola....so I threw it in a bowl (Carla...I just typed bowel instead of bowl but caught myself )...poured a small amount of soymilk over it.

OMG...I had the best bowl of cereal I've had in a LONG time!! It was like GRANOLA!!

I tried toasting my sunflower seeds to see if it would help with mold on them but it didnt help enough that I could them right now....I still reacted a little....just not as bad.

I've read this more than once so I'll try this too.

The liver can be helped detoxifying the mold toxins by adding vitamin C to the diet, preferably whenever potentially moldy food is eaten. Better yet is to add the vitamin C to the product before it is cooked and eaten to detoxify beforehand, and not place the burden on the liver. Vitamin C helps neutralize toxins directly in food plus helps the liver after the food is eaten.

It wont work on nuts or seeds though....I read that the molds pentrate them so sprinkling vit c wont help.

[dlp252]

Ok, I just took some. Icky, icky, icky!!!

Mitch gave me about half of an 1/8th of a teaspoon.

Yes, quite icky indeed!!! I was taking a teaspoon twice a day and, well, yuck!! I finally started mixing it in my supplement cocktail in the morning and in my protein shake in the evening. I don't think that's the ideal way to take it, but, well, YUCK!

I didnt get home till 4 and I realized I'd been up 24 hours and not feeling totally whacked out!! Usually whenever I'd stay up that long my body would start to become very symptomatic. Last night it was only my eyes getting a little sensitive and having trouble seeing in the dark. Other than that I felt pretty good!!

I dont feel like I have a hangover today.

I've also had less sleep than normal all week....so I would have expected to not be able to handle staying up that late. Maybe the candida stuff is working.

I know I'm killing the stuff but I wont get into details about that...TMI....TMI...TMI..

Wow, this is really truly amazing!!! Exciting even! There is no such thing as TMI here by the way!

Donna....I TOTALLY want a head banging emoticon!! I would wear that one out.....poor little guy would have quite the headache.

Yeah, mine might have permanent head dents.

My Birthday is coming up and I gotta think of something fun to do...but I'm scared to get out and do stuff.

I think the more I get candida under control the less apprehensive I'll be to just get out and be adventurous...but I dont know if I can get rid of enough of it before my b-day gets here.

Mine is coming up next month...I already know what I'll be doing, lol. My mom and aunt will take me out to Carl's Jr. (which I seem to have good luck at) and my friends will take me to Outback (another place I have good luck at)--just ate there on Tuesday.

Another thing, I just remembered that at a certain point where I was so ill I was melting that I decided to treat my stomach like a "new baby" and would only feed it what I would feed a baby, i.e. gentle foods. I combined that with a diet for ulcers and stayed away from anything acidic, peels on anything, I quit eating green peas for that reason, no pepper.... and that seemed to help too.

Yes, this is a great idea. Dr. S really wants me to chew my food a long time and eat slowly...I joked with my mom today that I'm just going to start grinding it all up in a blender. That or eat baby food...

I'm here! Reading along, catching up with everyone.

Can I just say that I love this avatar of yours...which one is you? I was thinking the one on the right looks a bit like me when I was that age, lol.

That is great, glad you had fun at the movies though I can't imagine why anyone volunteers to be frightened.

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I'm wondering how Laura is doing.

Ditto on both!

[Rachel--24]

More reasons to not eat wheat!!

Any grain processed product is likely to contain molds, especially those with wheat or corn flour. Whole wheat is worse than processed since the outer hull is most likely to harbor mold. Even though stripping the outer layers removes most of the nutrients, especially magnesium and B vitamins, as Clark says, in a contest between nutrition and the immune system, the immune system comes first.

Yes, this means that white bread is typically healthier, or at least less detrimental to health, than whole wheat bread.

It is beneficial for most people to avoid most wheat products anyway (see "Eat Right For Your Type" and "The Zone Diet " in the Diet section) since they contain harmful lectins, which also adversely affect the immune system. Whole wheat contains more of these lectins than processed. Corn flour is usually cleaner than wheat, but can have problems, too.

A recent conversation with a guy who grew up on a farm which grew wheat provided further information on this topic. He said, yes, the wheat does get moldy when it is stored for so long, but that is not the main reason I don't eat whole wheat. It is because the farmer stands there as the grain is being transferred to the silo and throws in periodic handfuls of sevin dust (insecticide) as the wheat goes by, to limit insect damage when it is being stored.

[Rachel--24]

This kind of explains why people would suddenly get affected by Lyme when exposed to mold in a home or elsewhere. This happens more often than not....the Lyme isnt causing illness until the mold (or some other toxin) comes into play.

It is the liver's job to detoxify these types of toxins in grains. Taking in too much at one time can cause serious liver damage. It usually does not have problems with small amounts unless the liver and gall bladder's functions are compromised by too many crystals, stones, or toxins. The molds also "gag" the immune system while it handles them, and while it is occupied, viruses and bacteria can get the upper hand. The surest way to catch a common cold is to eat moldy grain products when those around you are sick.

So yeah....I would imagine mold exposure could turn a less active infection into something much worse.

[dlp252]

Well I had my weekly BioSET session today. I had Anna herself which was great because I took in all my labs from Dr. S. I was also able to get her to test some of the stuff he wants me to take and it all tested okay and at the same dosages that he wants me at.

She was dismayed at my elements results and so SHE gave me a bunch MORE stuff to take. Good golly molly...I'll be making a spreadsheet later today. I think at some point I'm going to show a list to her of what I'm taking already, lol. I DID make a list for Dr. S but I don't think he's studied it. It requires some reading time.

She was also dismayed at the mold issue. She asked (and she's the second one by the way--Dr. Carrie also asked) what he was giving me for it. I don't know. I'm taking so much stuff...I'm not sure what's for what anymore.

Other than that, nothing much to report. She doesn't say a lot while we're going through the stuff. We did TONS of panels, but my glass was small today which was great...we did foods...all of what we did last week had to be repeated plus she had more new panels.

[dlp252]

Oh she did say that my energy was very low...she had to keep wetting my hand.

My mom said I looked pale and tired...moreso than normal.

I'm going to go crawl up on the couch now and watch Music & Lyrics.

Oh, and will someone who watched Grey's anatomy tell me what happened, lol. My recorder cut off at about 1 hour and 7 minutes...so I saw the part where Christina is ready to walk down the aisle but realizes she scrubbed in and washed her vows off her hand. Meredith is telling her she will kick her butt if she doesn't go down the aisle... George didn't pass and whatshername didn't make chief resident but Callie did. Who the heck made big Chief? Did Christina go down the aisle, lol. What else happened? Who left?

[CarlaB]

Yes, this is a great idea. Dr. S really wants me to chew my food a long time and eat slowly...I joked with my mom today that I'm just going to start grinding it all up in a blender. That or eat baby food...

That would defeat the purpose! The idea is to get saliva in your gut ... it helps digestion ... that's why people who aren't gluten intolerant often feel better if they eat crackers .... pretzels work just as well ... anything dry that gets saliva to the tummy.

[CarlaB]

This kind of explains why people would suddenly get affected by Lyme when exposed to mold in a home or elsewhere. This happens more often than not....the Lyme isnt causing illness until the mold (or some other toxin) comes into play.

So yeah....I would imagine mold exposure could turn a less active infection into something much worse.

This might also explain why so many of us felt better with gluten removed from our diets ... it took the burden off the immune system so it could better handle the Lyme.

[dlp252]

That would defeat the purpose! The idea is to get saliva in your gut ... it helps digestion ... that's why people who aren't gluten intolerant often feel better if they eat crackers .... pretzels work just as well ... anything dry that gets saliva to the tummy.

Oh yeah...now see, here's the perfect usage for the headbanging smilie!!!!!

[CarlaB]

Donna, ROFL! Are you sure you don't want to watch it online?

George left and will not redo his residency.

Burk walked up the aisle to Christina and said he wasn't going to marry her since she didn't want it, if he really loved her, he'd give her what she wants ... then he left, when she got back to the apt. all his stuff was gone.

McDreamy told the chief that he should stay the chief.

What's her name (sorry, Lyme brain), the redhead OB, told what's his face to go back to Ava, and he tried but she was gone.