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CarlaB Enthusiast

Evie, glad you had a grand time!!

Sorry so many are feeling down right now ...

Julie, thanks for the suggestion on the sauna. I had to do that today, but I let it keep getting warmer as I was in it. I was pressed for time because I had to go see the doc. I didn't sweat nearly as much, but I see what you mean about the oil. My legs didn't sweat at all though. I wonder if you always sweat and have oil like that but it's usually just covered by the water? One thing I've been doing is putting jojoba oil on my hair on days I wash it ... it's like a hot oil treatment. It's making my hair very soft!


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Green12 Enthusiast

Hi evie, sounds like you had a wonderful weekend! So many things to celebrate, and so glad so many of your family members and friends, and community, could be there with you. Thanks for sharing :)

I'm also glad to hear you are getting off the med that may be making you so sleepy. I hope you are doing well!

Carla, I'm glad you experienced a lower temp session, and got the results with the oily excretion. It's something my naturopathic doctor told me to do, it's been some time since he explained it all and I have forgotten some of it, but that is why he suggested alternating sessions between low and high temps, each of them addressing different things.

AndreaB Contributor

Evie,

That's great, it sounds like you will be able to get off the sleepy medicine. Your mini family reunion sounded like fun, albeit tiring for you.

Carla,

Glad you are enjoying your sauna. :)

Everyone else....we are enjoying a very nice indian summer day.....about 80.

jerseyangel Proficient

Well, went to the doctor and it's an infection :angry: I have to use antibiotic eye drops for the next week. Good thing I went....

AndreaB Contributor

Patti,

Yes, it is a good thing you went.....no telling how bad it would have gotten.

You'll probably feel much better in a couple days, once the medicine has time to start its work.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Hi everyone!! :)

It seems like I havent posted in awhile....I was keeping busy with scrapbooking projects all weekend. :)

I forgot how much I love it! It kind of sucks that I'm only home on the weekend though....the time goes by sooo fast and I never get to do everything I try into cram into those 2 days.

I guess alot of us arent feeling too well right now. :(

I've definatley had a rough couple of weeks...I think its from too much anxiety waiting for my test results. My body just cant handle the stress right now.

Today wasn't the best day ever....I think everything went wrong. "The Dave" got promoted to a bigger store (that means he's really NOT my boss now ;) ) and our new manager started today. She had on a perfume that my body just did not like at all...I had a major reaction at work. Tears were streaming down my face and my head was about to explode. :(

I was thinking I'd have to miss the 2nd half of my shift. I told them I wouldnt be back after lunch but in the end I went back and toughed it out. The new boss stayed far away from me the rest of the day. Someone told her she cant wear that perfume to work again but I dont know if she'll listen or not. Hopefully I dont have to go through that again though. :(

Lets see...what else happened today?? Oh....my department is completely wiped out....the weekend guy called in and noone else took initiative to order any product. :angry:

I was talking to a co-worker...I happened to look down and my hand was all bloody. I have no idea what happened but somehow I got cut. :huh:

When I was working the candy section I needed to reach the top shelf... being lazy as usual I just grabbed a little box, stood it on its end and used it as a stool. I've done this a million times but today the box gave way and I totally fell back on my a**. :ph34r: I fell pretty hard but I managed to not get hurt and thank God noone was on that aisle at the time. :lol:

My day has pretty much sucked from the beginning....hopefully tomorrow will be better. :)

Also hopefully sometime this week I'll get those test results back. It feels like its been forever that I've been waiting. <_<

Donna,

I'm really sorry you're having to go through all that with work right now....and not feeling good on top of it. Like Andrea said....you're problems are just as important as anyones....nothing trivial about it. ;)

Bev,

I think its unanimous....we all love your new pic. :)

How do you spell unanimous?? :huh: That just looks totally wrong to me. :lol:

Andrea,

You've been going through alot with hubby's surgery and your Dad being sick at the same time....its no wonder you've been feeling down. I hope everything will get better for you soon. :)

Evie,

Wow...you really did have a busy weekend! Sounds like alot of fun too!

Patti,

Yeah...its a good thing you went to the doctors about your eye...I hope it gets better quick with the drops. I havent been seeing the birds on my porch the past couple weeks...do you think they've done their business and have flown south for the winter?? Do you think I can try to get their nest down now?? :unsure: Its the weirdest thing....ever since this whole thing started I've had so many dead birds on my doorstep. Some that were just hatched and some that were almost full grown. Last week there was another one....is this normal??? I dunno if they fall out of the nest or if the mom throws them out or what??? :unsure:

Carla...you're really lucky to have that sauna...I think its definately gonna help you feel better...but even if it didnt....you're still lucky to have it!

Susan...thats so cool that you're gonna make your own Bumble Bars. :) Make sure that the brown rice syrup you get is gluten-free....I think some of them arent....but you probably already know this. ;)

AndreaB Contributor
I guess alot of us arent feeling too well right now. :(

I've definatley had a rough couple of weeks...I think its from too much anxiety waiting for my test results. My body just cant handle the stress right now.

Today wasn't the best day ever....I think everything went wrong. "The Dave" got promoted to a bigger store (that means he's really NOT my boss now ;) ) and our new manager started today. She had on a perfume that my body just did not like at all...I had a major reaction at work. Tears were streaming down my face and my head was about to explode. :(

My day has pretty much sucked from the beginning....hopefully tomorrow will be better. :)

Also hopefully sometime this week I'll get those test results back. It feels like its been forever that I've been waiting. <_<

Sounds like you had a day from a not very pleasant place. :ph34r: I sure hope your new manager takes the very obvious hint not to wear the perfume to work again, at least not when you are there.

I hope you aren't cut too badly and that you were able to get your department in order again, or ordered.

Hang tight with the tests. I know it is hard to wait. Dare I say it's like waiting for school to be out (from when we were in school)....they days would just drag by.

Our school day here was anything but productive. Talitha was in a major, put herself down, crying pity party today. Didn't help with my mood. :(

It should be safe to take the nest(s) down. They are usually done with them up here earlier, course you guys are always warm so it may be different.


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VydorScope Proficient

Sorry that I have not been in this thread in a while, but its very tough for me to keep up with threads that get in to like 10 pages... and this one is just a bit more then that! :D

I am just struggling along trying to figure out how to manage my condition and lose the weight its caused me to gain at the same time... baffled at why its hit me so suddenly after almost 3 decades of reasonable health!

I'll try to keep up here... but man... y'all must like do nothing but post/read ! :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Sounds like you had a day from a not very pleasant place. :ph34r: I sure hope your new manager takes the very obvious hint not to wear the perfume to work again, at least not when you are there.

Andrea,

Yeah...I hope she doesnt wear it again cuz it doesnt do much for my work performance. If I suffer....the store will suffer too. :P

I think she felt really bad because it was her first day and that happened...apparantly she talked to Michelle today and was upset that Michelle hadnt told her anything about this. Yeah...I think it would have been nice if she would have at least mentioned it....she said she "forgot" I was sensitive to perfumes. :huh:

As far as my dept. goes....I had to order sooo much stuff today. I'll probably have to go in early tomorrow to try and get through it all.

Poor Talitha...shes very hard on herself...I'm the same way sometimes so I can relate.

AndreaB Contributor
I think she felt really bad because it was her first day and that happened...apparantly she talked to Michelle today and was upset that Michelle hadnt told her anything about this. Yeah...I think it would have been nice if she would have at least mentioned it....she said she "forgot" I was sensitive to perfumes. :huh:

She FORGOT!! :o How could she forget!!!!!

Sounds like it won't be a problem in the future though.

Vincent,

Is there anything we could try and help you with?

VydorScope Proficient
Andrea,

Yeah...I hope she doesnt wear it again cuz it doesnt do much for my work performance. If I suffer....the store will suffer too. :P

I think she felt really bad because it was her first day and that happened...apparantly she talked to Michelle today and was upset that Michelle hadnt told her anything about this. Yeah...I think it would have been nice if she would have at least mentioned it....she said she "forgot" I was sensitive to perfumes. :huh:

If it happens again, can you take some alery meds to get through it?

She FORGOT!! :o How could she forget!!!!!

I have extremely poor memory, I too often even forget about my *own* issues, heck this week end I brought home Kroger Peanuts instead of Planters... in most houses not a big deal... EXCEPT they have WHEAT in thier ingredients stament, and BRAZIL NUTS too! Could have killed my wife and gluten my son. :o ops! (said jar of peanuts has been donated to the food bank....). Hey at least i was efficent and only got one product to do it all ! :D

Vincent,

Is there anything we could try and help you with?

Probably not, I am fairly alone with my brand of curse here... esply since Penguin left the only one that seem to match up with me. I hate to say it but outside of this thread I do not even feel comfortable talkinag about it cause of the bad and dangerous advice I have gotten repeatadly. I just look for opertunities to help, and research old posts mainly anymore.

But if you can find a way to eat a ton of extra calories (esply from sugar), and loose wieght and be healthy.. Im all ears.. err eyes! :D

AndreaB Contributor
I have extremely poor memory, I too often even forget about my *own* issues, heck this week end I brought home Kroger Peanuts instead of Planters... in most houses not a big deal... EXCEPT they have WHEAT in thier ingredients stament, and BRAZIL NUTS too! Could have killed my wife and gluten my son. :o ops! (said jar of peanuts has been donated to the food bank....). Hey at least i was efficent and only got one product to do it all ! :D

Ooooooppppppsssss. I don't eat peanuts since I'm intolerant to soy and they are of the same family. I didn't know about that though.....interesting.

jerseyangel Proficient

Sorry you're down, Vincent :( Although, you're certainly entitled--these things are so frustrating!

I have only limited experience with blood sugar issues--if I go too long without eating or don't have protein with breakfast, I can get cold shakes, dizziness and nausea. This, along with my many food intolerances :angry: What I make sure to do is have protein with every meal and wait until later in the day to eat sugar. Not sure why, but it dosen't cause the woozy stuff that it does if eaten earlier.

I'm glad that at least you still feel comfortable here--and that bottle of nuts was pretty scary-sounding :o So much potential disaster all in one convenient package :unsure:

rinne Apprentice

Good morning, I hope everyone is having a better day if yesterday was not so great and if it was then wishes for an even better day. :)

Its the weirdest thing....ever since this whole thing started I've had so many dead birds on my doorstep. Some that were just hatched and some that were almost full grown. Last week there was another one....is this normal??? I dunno if they fall out of the nest or if the mom throws them out or what???

That is weird Rachel. When you say "ever since this whole thing started", do you mean your illness? Are they the same kind of bird? Are they dying in the same place? Is there a big window they are flying into?

Sorry, if all these questions seem obvious. Here, if we find a dead bird we call and the bird is taken and analysed for West Nile virus. I have no idea what is normal for birds dying but I think if you are really noticing them dying then there is something strange about it.

CarlaB Enthusiast

Vincent, I actually share some of your blood sugar issues .... I used to read everything you and Penguin would talk about. My hair analysis confirmed that my body is acting hypoglycemic (it wasn't really an official hypo test, it just shows that the mineral distribution in my soft tissue indicates it's happening). For that and for other reasons, doc has me eating 5-6 meals per day, all protein and veggies, except for two servings of starchy carbs. I'm only allowed 1 piece of fruit, max, because of the sugar, and no fruit juice. The problem for me is, I'm losing weight eating like this. I'm down to a little less than 125, and I'm almost 5'8". It was a shock to me that they weren't allowing the runway models in Madrid to be less than 125 pounds if they're 5'9"!!! Anyway, eating like this might help you lose weight. I might not be losing if I could eat dairy though.

rinne Apprentice

Carla, do you have a link for the sauna you purchased? I'm thinking I saw one posted but am afraid to go back. :lol:

I miss Penguin too.

dlp252 Apprentice

Morning all!

Thanks for all the kind words everyone! I'm feeling better today...don't know why I should, but I do and I'm running with it, lol.

Susan - oh yes, I just know you'll share your yummy bumble bar recipe once you've perfected it, lol. I can't find the chocolate at my Whole Foods anymore. I'm going to have to resort to hunting for them soon. :angry:

Wow, Rachel, I'm so sorry about YOUR work situation too! It's encouraging to me though that the new supervisor felt badly! Not that I want anyone to feel bad, but it shows she cares on some level. I'm sorry that TheDave is REALLY not your boss now, lol.

Vincent - I'm so glad you feel comfortable in here! I do too...that's why I hardly post anywhere else anymore, lol.

***

I may be going on a vacation in December. My friend sent me some info on a cruise and I think I may go. It's a pretty good deal for a 10 day cruise to and around the Panama Canal. We've been on two cruises (Caribbean and Western Europe) before and it's a great way for me to relax (something I struggle with, lol). I shouldn't spend the money with all the dental bills, the new computer and car servicing that I still have to do, but I really think it would help my mental outlook, lol. So, over the next few days, we'll no doubt be busy planning all this which should take my mind off everything around here.

VydorScope Proficient
Vincent, I actually share some of your blood sugar issues .... I used to read everything you and Penguin would talk about. My hair analysis confirmed that my body is acting hypoglycemic (it wasn't really an official hypo test, it just shows that the mineral distribution in my soft tissue indicates it's happening). For that and for other reasons, doc has me eating 5-6 meals per day, all protein and veggies, except for two servings of starchy carbs. I'm only allowed 1 piece of fruit, max, because of the sugar, and no fruit juice. The problem for me is, I'm losing weight eating like this. I'm down to a little less than 125, and I'm almost 5'8". It was a shock to me that they weren't allowing the runway models in Madrid to be less than 125 pounds if they're 5'9"!!! Anyway, eating like this might help you lose weight. I might not be losing if I could eat dairy though.

Well this week I am trying somthing a bit different , in my never ending quest to deal with this mess.

First off droping most of the cheese and dariy, limiting to 1 bowl of ice cream (I'll go to my grave with ice cream in my vice like grip! LOL) and 1 serving of yougurt (Yoplait lite, fairly low on sugar, but has some probotics, protien, and stuff). Switched to a rice based cearel from corn based for breakfast (I have van's waffles like she suggested,but thats just to much thought in the AM..). Oh yea like 4 oz of milk in that ceral too. Also I have elimited lunch completely. My plan is to eat a "snack" sized meal every 2ish hours and see how that goes. I have also elimiated the cheeseburger from breakfast.

I am to freaking "brittle" (I htink that is the word), if I dont get enough carbs I will black out. Veggies do not provied enough. So the next best thing is fruit, esply a fruit high in fiber like Oranges. Good fruit is tough to find this time of the year though. At least around here.

So like today in my bag at work I have.. couple dole fruit cups, (single servings ones, in fruit juice not syrup), serving of lays natural sea salt chips, zip lock bag with around a serving of rice cearl, 1 yogurt, an apple, a baggie with peanuts and rasins, and some roast beef.

I also run 3 times a week, for 40 -45 mins on the treadmill. I know thats doing something cause I am runing faster and longer then I was last month, and I think I have halted wieght gain, but I wish it would do more LOL.

My son's celiac disease seems so much easier to handle LOL

jerseyangel Proficient

Sounds to me like you're making progress! Give it time :D

CarlaB Enthusiast

It's tough on restricted carbs. I eat two pieces of gluten-free toast with eggs in the morning and if I have any left over meat from the night before, I'll eat that, too. Then I do eat "carby" veggies a lot -- carrots, beets, etc. For my snack, I usually have an apple with almond butter or rice crackers with almond butter. Then I have either rice, potato, or sweet potato with dinner. Other than that, I eat just meat and veggies. Every snack/meal has to include protein.

Doc's main concern isn't blood sugar though, it's depleted adrenals. She says I have to pay back the debt, just not "spending" any more isn't going to be enough.

Rinne, it's www.sunlightsaunas.com.

Green12 Enthusiast

Hi everybody! I'm so glad this thread is active again :D , I missed our support group and the sharing of information.

Carla, I had the same conversations with my naturopath about adrenals, which address blood sugar issues as well. There are lots of books out there that deal with this topic, he recommended The Schwartzbein Principle II as she is a colegue of his. I skimmed the book and the basic philosophy is small meals throughout the day in balanced porportions (protein, starch, fat). She is not a fan of "no carbs" however, depending on how bad of shape your adrenals are in she suggests that amount of serving of good carbs with every meal and snack (seems to me it was anywhere from 15g-30g of good carbs). I find when I eat this way I seem to be the most balanced.

A word about dairy, I was told that eating dairy shuttles sugar into the cells rapidly, very much the same way that refined white sugar does. Don't know if there is any truth to that but I thought it was interesting. I know I can't eat dairy for many reasons, but I do notice when I do eat it I get blood sugar like reactions.

Rachel, good to see you post! I'm also sorry about your work situation and bad day. Hope today is a better one :)

Hope you are having a better day today too Andrea :)

Donna, glad you are in better spirits today :) I think the trip sounds fabulous, you definitely should go!

Vincent that's great about the progress you have made with your running :) Your food issues might take some trail and error to get to what works for you, but I feel it will happen!

CarlaB Enthusiast

Julie, thank you for the comments. I am eating several small meals, it's supposed to be six, but I only seem to ever get in five. My hair analysis showed that I was getting way too many simple carbs, and I'm feeling better now, but am finding that I may have to add a few healthy carbs as I go. I know carbs aren't evil :P , but my imbalances showed I need to stay away for a while. It's good to know that I may be able to have a little with each snack. I never have just protein ... I always have a veggie. I'm actually quite tired of veggies!

I'm casein intolerant, so no dairy for me! When I was on an anti-candida diet a few years ago, I only had half-and-half if I had dairy because it has much less sugar than milk.

I'll have to look for that book. I just read Tired of Being Tired by Jesse Lynn Hanley, MD, and am ready for something new to read.

VydorScope Proficient

a few hundred pages back I described something and y'all told me it as a "silent" migrain. They seem to be comming alot mroe often now. Im starting to wonderif its connected to BS changes.

juliem, in my world there is no question that the sugar in dariy hits the blood stream fast, I know it from experence.

CarlaB Enthusiast
juliem, in my world there is no question that the sugar in dariy hits the blood stream fast, I know it from experence.

Me, too. One time before I was casein free I shared a pint of Haagen Dazs with Adam while we watched a movie. It was the last thing I ate before going to bed. The next morning I was so sick I was incoherent and couldn't really even understand what people were saying to me. I ended up being sick for over a week from it. That was one of the last time I had dairy!

jerseyangel Proficient

Vincent--I can't remember the exact nature of your migranes. Too many posts back, I guess :blink: But, did you have head pain, or is this something else?

The reason I'm asking is that yesterday, I picked up the latest issue of Natural Health Magazine (Oct.) and there was an article on men's headaches--types of headaches that most commonly affect men. I read it right away because my husband has one of the types mentioned in the piece. It was a very good article with ideas for natural remedies as well as medications that doctors are using for the various headaches.

Thought I'd let you know.... :)

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      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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