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Hey, I don't think I told you guys, my herx from the new meds ended last evening ... after dinner I was sitting in the family room, right where I am in the avatar (very appropriate avatar because that's where I usually sit!), and I could sit and hold my head up. Prior to that, I had been laying down most of them time, only getting up when I had to since the Friday before last. So, it was an 11 day herx.

Today I was able to go to the gym with Adam, Starbucks, drive my daughter to the ortho, go to the grocery, and cook dinner! That's a busy day for me! Adam was relieved because he's been doing all that stuff.

Laura, how are you doing on the Omnicef? I hope it didn't hit you like it hit me.

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Each time the person inhales, they breathe in mercury vapors continually from their fillings, especially when they chew, clench or grind their teeth.

I used to grind my teeth. I had a bad bite and it was uncomfortable no matter how I held my jaw (no wonder I got TMJ problems!), so I'd grind my teeth at night. On a day after grinding, I'd feel really bad. This is how I made the mercury connection and why I had my fillings out.

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Rachel, you must not be too mad (ie blood boiling) at me since you still talk to me. :lol::rolleyes:

Andrea....nope. I can take advice just fine....I welcome advice. :)

Its only demands or things I percieve to be demands....I dont like to be "instructed". I dont like "nagging" or taking orders or following unecessary schedules or rules or restrictions....I dont do well with those types of things. :ph34r:

I guess I must be somewhat like Carla's son because I will purposely do something to irritate someone who has made me feel "forced" into anything. If they expect it done at a certain time....I will go out of my way to make sure I do it when I *want* to do it....and not when I was *told* to do it. :rolleyes:

My computer is broken and I asked my mom if she could take it to work and have this guy (who works on computers) take a look at it. She said..."Oh....I'll do it whenever I get around to it....maybe next week....I dunno....dont nag me about it ok?"

:lol::lol:

She was trying to give me a taste of my own medicine. :P

Anyways...hopefully Carlas son will grow out of it. :)

I think my stubbornness is just too deep rooted at this point.....theres no hope for me. :rolleyes:

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Anyways...hopefully Carlas son will grow out of it. :)

Puberty made him into a nice young man. It does good things for boys :P , it's the girls' puberty that is difficult, unless you like sudden crying for no apparent reason whatsoever! :lol:

He's certainly not perfect and is still stubborn, but much more compliant and easy to get along with.

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I don't think you'll have the answer until the mercury and candida are taken care of ... so just close the closet door and leave the boogeyman in there until a later time, then look to see if he's still there. :P

This is exactly what I'm gonna do. :)

Good advice Carla. Hopefully Dr. D. doesnt pull the boogeyman out of the closet in 2 weeks.....I dont want to open that door for a long time. :ph34r:

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Oh man....my gut must be so extremely toxic....no wonder I have MCS. :(

Boy! It sounds like it from that article excerpt. :o

Hey, I don't think I told you guys, my herx from the new meds ended last evening ... after dinner I was sitting in the family room, right where I am in the avatar (very appropriate avatar because that's where I usually sit!), and I could sit and hold my head up. Prior to that, I had been laying down most of them time, only getting up when I had to since the Friday before last. So, it was an 11 day herx.

Today I was able to go to the gym with Adam, Starbucks, drive my daughter to the ortho, go to the grocery, and cook dinner! That's a busy day for me! Adam was relieved because he's been doing all that stuff.

WooHoo!!!!

My computer is broken and I asked my mom if she could take it to work and have this guy (who works on computers) take a look at it. She said..."Oh....I'll do it whenever I get around to it....maybe next week....I dunno....dont nag me about it ok?"

:lol::lol:

She was trying to give me a taste of my own medicine. :P

Anyways...hopefully Carlas son will grow out of it. :)

I think my stubbornness is just too deep rooted at this point.....theres no hope for me. :rolleyes:

Your mom. :lol::lol:

Never say there's no hope. There is always hope, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. :)

Puberty made him into a nice young man. It does good things for boys :P , it's the girls' puberty that is difficult, unless you like sudden crying for no apparent reason whatsoever! :lol:

Glad your son is easier to deal with now. :)

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Rinne---it was good to see you----we think about you a lot. Post whenever you can.

Rachel, you are particularly full of scientificness lately...I was thinking about something a guy I met at my Dr's yesterday said. I mentioned how I have food problems. He asked if I had chemical problems, since it was common among people with LD. I said I very mildly did when I was in the midst of my worst (in the fall). I said something about how its strange since I seem to manifest in 'different' ways that some LD people, but he said in some ways, its not really that different...its just a different trigger, i.e., the food vs. environmental things. The way he said it just kind of made sense to me for some reason.

Donna, I'm happy to hear that your HP is gone! Woo hoo! You must be so happy to be able to move on from that one!

Carla, last night I took the first O, and did fine. This morning, I took it again, and I must say, I didn't have a good day. I didn't have a full blown bad day, but I was off, which surprised me. I had a mild, constant headache, some aches in me neck and back, but it didn't feel like a "reaction" like I am used to having (with foods, etc). It subsided some in the early afternoon, but now I have a mild ache in my head again. Its hard....is it just a normal headache? Is it a side effect of the meds? Is it related to LD? AHHHH I don't know what to think! :) I am going in tomorrow for my last IV for this week.

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Carla, last night I took the first O, and did fine. This morning, I took it again, and I must say, I didn't have a good day. I didn't have a full blown bad day, but I was off, which surprised me. I had a mild, constant headache, some aches in me neck and back, but it didn't feel like a "reaction" like I am used to having (with foods, etc). It subsided some in the early afternoon, but now I have a mild ache in my head again. Its hard....is it just a normal headache? Is it a side effect of the meds? Is it related to LD? AHHHH I don't know what to think! :) I am going in tomorrow for my last IV for this week.

I wouldn't know what to think either. :(

Maybe Carla will know more. :)

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Rachel, you are particularly full of scientificness lately...I was thinking about something a guy I met at my Dr's yesterday said. I mentioned how I have food problems. He asked if I had chemical problems, since it was common among people with LD. I said I very mildly did when I was in the midst of my worst (in the fall). I said something about how its strange since I seem to manifest in 'different' ways that some LD people, but he said in some ways, its not really that different...its just a different trigger, i.e., the food vs. environmental things. The way he said it just kind of made sense to me for some reason.

There was a woman at the gym today ... I lift weights, so the weight room isn't the biggest room there ... she had on PERFUME at the GYM :blink: ... I was so nauseous from it that I felt like telling her it was against gym courtesy to wear perfume! :lol:

Carla, last night I took the first O, and did fine. This morning, I took it again, and I must say, I didn't have a good day. I didn't have a full blown bad day, but I was off, which surprised me. I had a mild, constant headache, some aches in me neck and back, but it didn't feel like a "reaction" like I am used to having (with foods, etc). It subsided some in the early afternoon, but now I have a mild ache in my head again. Its hard....is it just a normal headache? Is it a side effect of the meds? Is it related to LD? AHHHH I don't know what to think! :) I am going in tomorrow for my last IV for this week.

I think it's from the meds. I get that a lot. It's almost like having the aches from the flu ... in the head, down the neck into the shoulders and back. I got that when I started meds last month.

I have gotten the headache thing, too, and I usually NEVER get headaches. I feel like my skull is too small for my head.

I don't know if it's a herx or a side-effect. I'd guess a herx, I would think a side-effect would be more GI in nature. Plus, it comes and goes, I think a side-effect would be worse right after the meds, or at least show some pattern.

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Today I was able to go to the gym with Adam, Starbucks, drive my daughter to the ortho, go to the grocery, and cook dinner! That's a busy day for me! Adam was relieved because he's been doing all that stuff.

YAY!!

I hope your energy sticks around for awhile. Sounds like you were very productive. :)

I used to grind my teeth. I had a bad bite and it was uncomfortable no matter how I held my jaw (no wonder I got TMJ problems!), so I'd grind my teeth at night. On a day after grinding, I'd feel really bad. This is how I made the mercury connection and why I had my fillings out.

Once I got those gold crown in and started having the galvanic reaction....OMG....I was grinding my teeth like crazy. I had never had a clenching or grinding problem prior to that. I was fiercely grinding these suckers. It could NOT have been good in terms of releasing even more mercury. :o

I was grinding the gold crowns into the mercury fillings. My two mercury fillings were directly underneath the gold crowns....one on each side of my mouth. It was like some kind of super sonic force was constantly pulling the metals together and then I would just grind and grind. :blink:

Rachel, you are particularly full of scientificness lately...I was thinking about something a guy I met at my Dr's yesterday said. I mentioned how I have food problems. He asked if I had chemical problems, since it was common among people with LD.

My first visit with my Dr. was to get evaluated for mercury toxicity (or so I thought). I told him all my symptoms....with chemical and food sensitivities being the worst. I had long known that these are issues associated with mercury toxicity....I was pretty surprised when he threw Lyme out there. :o

He said the same thing.....chemical sensitivities are common amongst Lyme patients....that was the first I'd heard about a connection with MCS and Lyme. :huh:

I had looked into Lyme but just never came across this info.

He had said that the main causes for MCS are

Lyme

heavy metal toxicity

toxic mold exposure

exposure to toxic chemicals

Those were the all the things we went over in my initial appts but he ordered the Igenix tests right away.

He grilled me about mold in my home or workplace and about chemical exposure. As far as I know those two arent issues for me.

When I was 13 I had a paper route early in the morning. My mom wouldnt let me go out in the dark on my own so she helped with with my route every morning. She says that one time we entered a building that was having some chemicals sprayed in it. We werent suppossed to enter the building but apparantly we did....I dont remember the incident.

I dont think that would have triggered this illness more than 15 years later.....although it probably wasnt a good thing either. Just more toxic chemicals that my body had to deal with.....on top of my almost daily Big Macs. :rolleyes:

I said something about how its strange since I seem to manifest in 'different' ways that some LD people, but he said in some ways, its not really that different...its just a different trigger, i.e., the food vs. environmental things.

Lucky me to get both the food and the environmental issues. :(

I think for me its definately got alot to do with my liver. I'm sensitive to the compounds in different classes of foods....such as the sulfur foods or the salicylates.

These have to get broken down by certain enzymes in the liver. In my book on mercury toxicity it explains how mercury causes enzyme dysfunction and creates these sensitivities to certain classes of foods. Its because the enzymes arent able to break down the components in the food....some stuff is beneficial and should get used up by the body and some stuff needs to get detoxed through the liver.

Instead...nothing gets broken down or distributed and it just stays in the system longer than it should and causes reactions. This is pretty much what happens with me.....it really sucks. :angry:

My Dr. said once the mercury load gets lighter and I'm tolerating things better we need to work on my digestive system and other weak areas of my body. Addressing these issues will help me alot but right now its not possible cuz I'm still too sensitive.

I did move up to two drops of NDF today. :D

Its hard....is it just a normal headache? Is it a side effect of the meds? Is it related to LD? AHHHH I don't know what to think! :) I am going in tomorrow for my last IV for this week.

I know what you mean!! So frusterating trying to figure out whats causing what.

Good luck on your last IV.....I hope it goes as well as the one you just had. :)

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I wonder if this could be a factor in why some people do not respond to antibiotics in Lyme treatment?? Antibiotic resistance??

The fact that the presence of mercury in the tissues represses the immune system has long been known and is supported by the literature. This would explain a general immune enhancing effect of any solid mercury detoxification program. It has also been shown that the presence of amalgam fillings conveys immunity to antibiotics to various bacteria and also impairs the body's own defense system. Mercury is therefore the only substance ever shown that induces antibiotic resistance in bacteria, other than an antibiotic itself.

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More scientificness....

Most - if not all - chronic infectious diseases are not caused by a failure of the immune system, but are a conscious adaptation of the immune system to an otherwise lethal heavy metal environment.

Mercury suffocates the intracellular respiratory mechanism and can cause cell death.

So, the immune system makes a deal: it cultivates fungi and bacteria that can bind large amounts of toxic metals. The gain: the cells can breathe. The cost. the system has to provide nutrition for the microorganisms and has to deal with their metabolic products ("toxins").

That does not imply that the tolerated guest cannot grow out of control, as it sometimes clearly does.

Therefore, there is still a limited place for antifungal antibacterial treatment - but only for the acute phase of the disease.

A so-called "die-off effect" is often nothing else but acute heavy metal toxicity - metals released from the cell walls of dying microorganisms as suggested by my own correlation of clinical syndromes and urinalysis for metals.

I'm coming to this conclusion about die-off as well. It seems highly likely that the increase in symptoms could be from the metals released when treating things like Lyme and Candida. When you go after Lyme and candida you will be releasing metals to which they are bound.

Also, like my Dr. said...my candida will get worse as I detox metals since the yeast will be released from the metals.

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OMG, you guys are prolific! Just a few notes from me today, as today was a bad day :(

I really want to get T in for bioset. Still haven't gotten the check that my mom was supposed to split between my brother and I so I'm thinking we may not get it unless my dad's wife decides to send it anyway, even though the state gets back what she was going to send up. It would be enough to cover T's initial visit (I'm assuming) with a little left over. Depending on how much the initial visit is and if they'd give a group consult deduction I may be able to swing S as well. Wouldn't be able to do treatments though until fall unless I could figure out how to sqeeze out some more money for just once a month. Isn't it recommended to go once a week?

Hi Andrea, I don't think it matters how often you go. Go as often as you can afford it. If you can afford twice a month, that's probably better than once a month. I mean, you don't want to it to drag on forever. I was first scheduled for twice a month, and I thought, "This is going to take forEVER!!" So, I started going once or twice a week. It went a lot faster than I thought it was going to.

So, like I said, today was kinda stressful. I cried all weekend about my cat, and I'm kinda tapped out on crying, but I'm still bummed out. That, and some other stressful stuff that went on today made me think I was going to lose it. So, instead, I ate a bunch of food that I don't normally eat. Let's just say that I thoroughly tested dairy and wheat today :o . So far, so good. No adverse symptoms. The next two days will be the test though. I see Dr. F tomorrow, so I'll have him double check the biggies. I think BioSET is on to something.

Check this out though..... :o

I just learned that my mom had 16 amalgams put in when she was a teenager. :blink:

She had me at age 20.

I'm thinking this is significant exposure for me....enough to say that I had to of been mercury toxic at birth!

Hi Rachel, If your mom really had that many amalgams at once, why??!! I mean, that's just not right. Something else would be going on (like celiac?). Does she still have her amalgams, or did she have them removed?

Claire

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Hi Rachel, If your mom really had that many amalgams at once, why??!! I mean, that's just not right. Something else would be going on (like celiac?). Does she still have her amalgams, or did she have them removed?

There is no Celiac in my family. I dont have any genes...I'm not sure of my moms genes but she has no symptoms....nobody in my family has symptoms of Celiac.

I think my mom just didnt get taken to the dentist until she went on her own as a teenager. Her teeth were not well taken care of. I dont think she got the fillings all at once. She said she remembers going back several times for more fillings.

Apparantly her own mom never went to the dentist all her life and ended up having all her teeth pulled because they were bad. My mom wanted me and my bro to have great teeth....and we do....but what good does it do me when the rest of me is broken. :(

My mom still has amalgams but she says alot of them have been crowned. She doesnt really know whats up with her teeth and she doesnt care because shes not sick. She doesnt know if they removed her amalgam fillings or what they did when they put the crowns in....she could still have amalgam under her crowns but she doesnt know. She doesnt want to discuss this stuff with me cuz it gets her stressed out....she thinks I'm blaming her if I ask her about it.

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So, like I said, today was kinda stressful. I cried all weekend about my cat, and I'm kinda tapped out on crying, but I'm still bummed out. That, and some other stressful stuff that went on today made me think I was going to lose it. So, instead, I ate a bunch of food that I don't normally eat. Let's just say that I thoroughly tested dairy and wheat today :o . So far, so good. No adverse symptoms. The next two days will be the test though. I see Dr. F tomorrow, so I'll have him double check the biggies. I think BioSET is on to something.

Claire,

Keep us posted on whether you continue to do good with your slurge today.

I haven't heard from the person I wrote to about bioset. Maybe I'll call. Of course I told them we couldn't afford to do this before fall but I'd like to know how much it is so I can plan better and see how often we could go.

Hugs for you Claire. Our furry buddies are always missed. I cried and cried and missed mine too.

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Dear Claire,

Thanks for the info on the MMRs. I was curious since I had the vaccines. This is fascinating. You said that you are injected with a live virus. I heard all vaccines were dead virus cells, but that is apparently wrong.

Dear Rachel,

Thanks for all the awesome info! Wouldn't it be cool to copy all this stuff and make like a book?

Dear Carla,

I do not handle perfumes either. They make my nausea worse, too. There are some days where walking makes me want to me ill! It can be hard to deal with. Incedentally,

I went to the doctor yesterday, and she said she had never heard of Enterolab. She also said the nausea could be the dairy. Though I do not eat a lot of it, I still eat milk chocolate a lot. She said being Celiac (which she called me, not gluten intolerant) it is common, as I have heard.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

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Hey, I don't think I told you guys, my herx from the new meds ended last evening ... after dinner I was sitting in the family room, right where I am in the avatar (very appropriate avatar because that's where I usually sit!), and I could sit and hold my head up. Prior to that, I had been laying down most of them time, only getting up when I had to since the Friday before last. So, it was an 11 day herx.

Hooray on the good day!!! I think you'll be having many more of these in your future! :)

Donna, I'm happy to hear that your HP is gone! Woo hoo! You must be so happy to be able to move on from that one!

Carla, last night I took the first O, and did fine. This morning, I took it again, and I must say, I didn't have a good day. I didn't have a full blown bad day, but I was off, which surprised me. I had a mild, constant headache, some aches in me neck and back, but it didn't feel like a "reaction" like I am used to having (with foods, etc). It subsided some in the early afternoon, but now I have a mild ache in my head again. Its hard....is it just a normal headache? Is it a side effect of the meds? Is it related to LD? AHHHH I don't know what to think! :) I am going in tomorrow for my last IV for this week.

Oh, yes, very glad it's gone, lol. Now, I just need to get rid of the Staph that Anna found during BioSET, lol. I've been having that dull headache all weekend...I thought mine might be related to my trip on the stairs last Friday, but it's so darned hard to tell.

Once I got those gold crown in and started having the galvanic reaction....OMG....I was grinding my teeth like crazy. I had never had a clenching or grinding problem prior to that. I was fiercely grinding these suckers. It could NOT have been good in terms of releasing even more mercury. :o

I was grinding the gold crowns into the mercury fillings. My two mercury fillings were directly underneath the gold crowns....one on each side of my mouth. It was like some kind of super sonic force was constantly pulling the metals together and then I would just grind and grind. :blink:

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He grilled me about mold in my home or workplace and about chemical exposure. As far as I know those two arent issues for me.

Yeah, I've had all sorts of galvanic stuff going on, lol. Dr. Adams found amalgam under every one of my 6 crowns! 5 of those crowns were gold, 1 was porcelain and some of them touched other teeth with amalgam fillings! I don't think I grind my teeth, but I had noticed an increase of clenching in the last couple of years!

The mold in my home thing is a real possibility and I suppose I really need to have it checked. :(

OMG, you guys are prolific! Just a few notes from me today, as today was a bad day :(

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So, like I said, today was kinda stressful. I cried all weekend about my cat, and I'm kinda tapped out on crying, but I'm still bummed out. That, and some other stressful stuff that went on today made me think I was going to lose it. So, instead, I ate a bunch of food that I don't normally eat. Let's just say that I thoroughly tested dairy and wheat today :o . So far, so good. No adverse symptoms. The next two days will be the test though. I see Dr. F tomorrow, so I'll have him double check the biggies. I think BioSET is on to something.

Aw, I'm so sorry for your weekend! {{{Hugs}}} Yikes on the wheat and dairy, but glad you aren't suffering, lol.

Hi Rachel, If your mom really had that many amalgams at once, why??!! I mean, that's just not right. Something else would be going on (like celiac?).

Yeah, I've wondered about this for me. I had all 11 of my fillings done around the same time as a kid. I DO have a celiac gene, and as a kid I was certainly skinny (but alternated with being chunky, lol). My teeth have always been weak and my mom took me to the dentist from a pretty young age I think.

Apparantly her own mom never went to the dentist all her life and ended up having all her teeth pulled because they were bad.

Yeah, my mom had bad teeth too (she has a lot of the same symptoms as I do and I'm pretty sure she may be celiac cuz as a kid and young adult she was uber skinny--not so skinny now though, lol). She had all her upper teeth pulled when I was a kid.

I went to the doctor yesterday, and she said she had never heard of Enterolab.

I'm not surprised. Many "mainstream" doctors have not heard of Enterolab because Dr. Fine has not published any of his work yet.

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Yeah, I've had all sorts of galvanic stuff going on, lol. Dr. Adams found amalgam under every one of my 6 crowns! 5 of those crowns were gold, 1 was porcelain and some of them touched other teeth with amalgam fillings! I don't think I grind my teeth, but I had noticed an increase of clenching in the last couple of years!

The mold in my home thing is a real possibility and I suppose I really need to have it checked. :(

Yikes Donna! How long did you have those gold crowns?

You said you'd wait 6 months to see how you feel with the mercury? How are you going to go about finding out what your levels are?

Mold, icky. :( We live in a manufactured home and the master bedroom side of the house's outer wall is warped. It's obviously had water damage and I envision the insulation being bunched up and mold growing in there. Can't afford to move or anything before fall and even then it would be tough. We can't afford more for rent than we are paying with the debt load we picked up last year. Seems most of the rentals we could afford would be like what we are in now.

And then I've still got to try and figure out how to squeeze in bioset. Might have to wait another year and a half. :(

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Thanks for all the awesome info! Wouldn't it be cool to copy all this stuff and make like a book?

:lol::lol:

Where have I heard that before??

We've discussed the "OMG" book lots of times.....I think Susan (DingoGirl) had come up with the best title for it....

I cant remember it now though. :unsure:

I'm not surprised. Many "mainstream" doctors have not heard of Enterolab because Dr. Fine has not published any of his work yet.

Not many people have heard of Enterolab...none of the Dr.'s I ever saw had heard of it.

I dont even think Dr. Rick was very familiar with it. When I asked him he shook his head but I got the feeling he didnt have a clue what I was talking about. :rolleyes:

Donna,

Do you ever notice excess saliva?? That would be a good indicator that there is a galvanic reaction taking place. Its because the saliva creates the battery-like effect between the different metals....the saliva is like a "conductor".....so you start producing lots of it.

Thats what happened to me...I was having too much saliva. It was not a good thing....really gross.

I started having drooling problems at night....so much that I would wake up and not just have a "spot" on my pillow....but the whole freakin pillow case would be soaked from drool. :blink:

I was so confused about that at the time. :(

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Claire....I hope you're feeling ok after testing the wheat and dairy. You are very brave.....I dont know if I could do it. :ph34r:

This week is employee appreciation week and they've got all kinds of goodies in the break room for everyone. DONUTS and BAGELS galore....with cream cheese even!

My friends call me back there....."C'mom Rachel....you gotta smell this stuff!" :lol:

They know I like to look at all the food and smell it....then we talk about how its gonna be when I can start eating it all. :D

Today my friend said I'll end up gaining so much weight noone will recognize me....she'll be like "Have you seen Rachel?" and I'll be like "HELLO....I am Rachel!!." :lol::lol:

Yup....I dont know how I'll ever stop eating once I can start. :P

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They know I like to look at all the food and smell it....then we talk about how its gonna be when I can start eating it all. :D

Today my friend said I'll end up gaining so much weight noone will recognize me....she'll be like "Have you seen Rachel?" and I'll be like "HELLO....I am Rachel!!." :lol::lol:

Yup....I dont know how I'll ever stop eating once I can start. :P

Uh oh. I can totally see this.....especially with your tendancy to Rachel everything. :ph34r::P

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Yikes Donna! How long did you have those gold crowns?

You said you'd wait 6 months to see how you feel with the mercury? How are you going to go about finding out what your levels are?

Mold, icky. :( We live in a manufactured home and the master bedroom side of the house's outer wall is warped. It's obviously had water damage and I envision the insulation being bunched up and mold growing in there. Can't afford to move or anything before fall and even then it would be tough. We can't afford more for rent than we are paying with the debt load we picked up last year. Seems most of the rentals we could afford would be like what we are in now.

And then I've still got to try and figure out how to squeeze in bioset. Might have to wait another year and a half. :(

I had those gold crowns for at least 10 years...not all of them, but I think I've had them all replaced from filling in the last 10-15 years...some of them had been done twice!

As far as the levels, I'm thinking I may go Rachel's doctor in the next couple of months for a "consult" type of appointment...see what he thinks about my toxicity...maybe he can do some sort of test at that time.

BioSET might be less expensive in your area...everything is well inflated around here. :angry:

I'm in the same situation here. I own my condo, but that's what I can afford and if I were to sell and move I could only afford what I've got now unless I totally move out of this area...what I've got now is a very OLD condo. :lol:

Not many people have heard of Enterolab...none of the Dr.'s I ever saw had heard of it.

I dont even think Dr. Rick was very familiar with it. When I asked him he shook his head but I got the feeling he didnt have a clue what I was talking about. :rolleyes:

Donna,

Do you ever notice excess saliva?? That would be a good indicator that there is a galvanic reaction taking place. Its because the saliva creates the battery-like effect between the different metals....the saliva is like a "conductor".....so you start producing lots of it.

Thats what happened to me...I was having too much saliva. It was not a good thing....really gross.

I started having drooling problems at night....so much that I would wake up and not just have a "spot" on my pillow....but the whole freakin pillow case would be soaked from drool. :blink:

Yes, I mentioned Enterolab to Dr. Rick and he at least seemed to know what I was talking about...you must have put that in his ear, lol.

YES, I have lots of saliva (except when I need to do a saliva test, lol, then suddenly the well dries up :lol: ). In the last few years I noticed a DEFINITE increase in drooling potential. :ph34r: It's been a little better in the last month or two...maybe cuz there's no galvanic thing happening???

Today my friend said I'll end up gaining so much weight noone will recognize me....she'll be like "Have you seen Rachel?" and I'll be like "HELLO....I am Rachel!!." :lol::lol:

:lol: Yeah, you'd Rachel it all!

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