Enormous Stool

[Kris Fisher]

My middle Daughter, Shayla has enormous stool. Every time she has a BM she plugges the toilet. I'm not kidding you. She is a very thin, pale child who can eat a ton of food with no weight gain. She has no stomach pain as I do. She does look sickly some times in her face but I relate it to her pale skin. Would the large stool be a sign of celiac. I don't want to get her tested unless the experts, you, thinks it a possiblity. My reasoning is she had e-coli when she was 4. The little girl that she got it from died 10 days into it. Shayla was hospitalized for 30 days. She is better now but VERY scared of Dr.'s and needles.

Any advice would be great.

Kris

[dionnek]

I have the exact same thing - that's actually what led me to see a GI dr. (finally) and my diagnosis. I've been having large bowel movements every morning that hurt worse than having a baby (which I recently had also)! I would cry every morning and bleed, etc. and several times it clogged up the toilet before I even wiped! My regular dr. told me to take stool softener, which didn't do any good, so finally I went to the GI. I also had D about 8 times a day everyday, which led him to doing a biopsy right away. My 1 1/2 year old daughter is also having these large bowel movements, but not every day. Hers is usually once a week or so, after she's been constipated for a day or so. She cries and cries until she finally gets it out. I haven't had her tested yet - she has no other symptoms. Will probably have her tested at her 2 month appt.

[Fiddle-Faddle]

My oldest son used to have poops like that. The doctor just kind of shrugged, he wasn't any help. But he hardly ever has poops like that any more. He is not gluten-free, but since I developed a problem with gluten, he is certainly "gluten-lite" now (gluten at lunch only).

[mommida]

I would describe my son's as a very large clay colored BRICK. That clogs the toilet so..... Stop now because this is waaay to much information! We have to remove from the throne (heavily gloved and plastic bagged) solid as a rock.

L.

[chrissy]

ouch!

[Daxin]

I don't want to frighten anyone, but when our pediatrician was told our daughter (now 2) had those same symptoms, he tested her for CF. This may sound funny, but does she taste salty when you give her a little kiss? That was another symptom.

I don't know why that's what they look for, but there you go. Again, not trying to frighten anyone, just something to consider. The tests are not invasive, but they are time consuming. They put a small patch on her arm that detects salt in her sweat, then they wrap her arm in plastic wrap, and make her sweat for 30 minutes or so. Our daughter tested negative, and the problem eventually cleared itself up.

Another thing my de did was to give her a ton of grapes or kiwi, to try to move things along.

Hope and pray everything is allright. Please let us know. (HUGS)

[Tori's Dad]

My middle Daughter, Shayla has enormous stool. Every time she has a BM she plugges the toilet. I'm not kidding you. She is a very thin, pale child who can eat a ton of food with no weight gain. She has no stomach pain as I do. She does look sickly some times in her face but I relate it to her pale skin. Would the large stool be a sign of celiac. I don't want to get her tested unless the experts, you, thinks it a possiblity. My reasoning is she had e-coli when she was 4. The little girl that she got it from died 10 days into it. Shayla was hospitalized for 30 days. She is better now but VERY scared of Dr.'s and needles.

Any advice would be great.

Kris

My 5 year old daughter was just diagnosed last month and this was one of her main symptoms. She would not go for 3 days, then have a very large solid stool, then have 3- 4 fatty loose stools within 2 hours. The cycle would then start again.

She has been gluten free for 5 weeks now and she has a BM every day. They are still large at times, but the subsequent D has gone away.

[Guest alex j]

I have a 6yo with celiac (dx by blood tests and biopsy). My 3 yo is currently being screened again - he was screened 4 mos ago and came up positive on IgG only. Anyhow, he has constipation, is on Miralax, and when he goes the amount is phenomenal. Without the laxative it is an enormous, painful lump; with it, it overflows his diaper, fills his clothes, he has to have a bath... you get the picture (maybe a little more than you wanted to). He eats well but is tiny (fell off the charts).

So I don't know if it is a symptom for others, and don't know for sure my 3yo has celiac, but I'm highly suspicious he does and think it's one of his symptoms. I'm guessing he's just not absorbing the food so more remains? I don't know.

Alex

I remembered another thing - before my 6yo was diagnosed we didn't suspect celiac at all (it was picked up by his endocrinologist). He also sometimes looked kind of sickly, but I attributed it to his pale skin, allergies (that hollow eyed look), and diabetes (gives him a kind of peaky look sometimes when blood glucose is off). But when he went gluten free suddenly he looked far more healthy in some undefinable way. Lots of people have commented on it.

I also have a daughter who is really scared of doctors. She starts to feel nauseous and becomes really combative when in any medical facility, even when she's not the patient. I sympathise with your reluctance to have her checked out. I know I don't bring my daughter in when I would my sons. On the other hand I think it's something I have to somehow get her over, because who knows when she might break her leg (or whatever) and need emergency medical attention - it's going to be way more traumatic than it needs to be if she still feels this way. I'm not sure how I'm going to accomplish it though...

Alex

[Nic]

Hi, my son is 5 and was diagnosed last year with celiac. He was so constipated that he wouldn't go for several days and then one day, he would go. It would always be rock hard (never clogged the toilet though ), but then, it was like the flood gates were opened and he would poop all day. Now that he is gluten-free he was still having trouble with constipation so the doc put him on miralax as well as fiber. He goes regularly but very loose and very heavy (practically fills the toilet) and then it will just stop. He will struggle for several days and then pass what appears to be normal poop (formed, not mush). It seems as though if it is not super soft, he can't pass it. And then once again the flood gates open and he's loading the toilet again. I can't get anyone to understand (doctors that is) how his bowel movements and their cycles are interfereing with his everyday living. He can't have a bowel movement where he does not need my help wiping due to the mirolax. Or we go the other way and he can't go for days and is in and out of the bathroom all day. It is very frustrating. He starts kindergarten in Sept. and I feel panicked over how he will use the bathroom in school.

[skipper30]

Our 3 1/2 year old son was diagnosed at the end od 2005. One of his symptoms was large, frequent loose bowel movements..for what is is worth...our GI doc said that that can be a symptom because the bowels are not able to completely empty. I DO NOT know how accurate that info is. I know that doctors can have old and/or outdated info...but that is what we were told.

Hope that helps...good luck!!

[Tori's Dad]

Hi, my son is 5 and was diagnosed last year with celiac. He was so constipated that he wouldn't go for several days and then one day, he would go. It would always be rock hard (never clogged the toilet though ), but then, it was like the flood gates were opened and he would poop all day. Now that he is gluten-free he was still having trouble with constipation so the doc put him on miralax as well as fiber. He goes regularly but very loose and very heavy (practically fills the toilet) and then it will just stop. He will struggle for several days and then pass what appears to be normal poop (formed, not mush). It seems as though if it is not super soft, he can't pass it. And then once again the flood gates open and he's loading the toilet again. I can't get anyone to understand (doctors that is) how his bowel movements and their cycles are interfereing with his everyday living. He can't have a bowel movement where he does not need my help wiping due to the mirolax. Or we go the other way and he can't go for days and is in and out of the bathroom all day. It is very frustrating. He starts kindergarten in Sept. and I feel panicked over how he will use the bathroom in school.

Nic, after 6 straight months of "wait 3 days, then large stool, then flood gates" our daughter became "normal" within 2-3 days of going gluten free. She goes once a day like a clock. It is still somewhat large and firm or some times little balls but she has no flood gate anymore.

If I (non-celieac) take too many fiber supplements I get stools that are too loose so that could be it. I had much better luck with natural fiber from bean and peanuts that with supplements.

Fortunately Tori likes tortilla chips covered in refried beans which are a great source of fiber.

[Nic]

Nic, after 6 straight months of "wait 3 days, then large stool, then flood gates" our daughter became "normal" within 2-3 days of going gluten free. She goes once a day like a clock. It is still somewhat large and firm or some times little balls but she has no flood gate anymore.

If I (non-celieac) take too many fiber supplements I get stools that are too loose so that could be it. I had much better luck with natural fiber from bean and peanuts that with supplements.

Fortunately Tori likes tortilla chips covered in refried beans which are a great source of fiber.

I think this has been my question to my doctors all along. He is strictly gluten free. I am very careful and so is everyone else that cares for him. He is extremely careful as well. He won't even touch anything he doesn't know is safe. Shouldn't he be better? A year has gone by. He still suffers regularly enough to have in interfere with his life.

[Cinari]

I think this has been my question to my doctors all along. He is strictly gluten free. I am very careful and so is everyone else that cares for him. He is extremely careful as well. He won't even touch anything he doesn't know is safe. Shouldn't he be better? A year has gone by. He still suffers regularly enough to have in interfere with his life.

Hi Nic, I'm sorry that this is still happening to your son. I found this article that refers to situations when folks are not responding to a gluten free diet and it describes a condition called SIBO- small intestine bacterial overgrowth and lactose intolerance: Open Original Shared Link

[RiceGuy]

Hi, my son is 5 and was diagnosed last year with celiac. He was so constipated that he wouldn't go for several days and then one day, he would go. It would always be rock hard (never clogged the toilet though ), but then, it was like the flood gates were opened and he would poop all day. Now that he is gluten-free he was still having trouble with constipation so the doc put him on miralax as well as fiber. He goes regularly but very loose and very heavy (practically fills the toilet) and then it will just stop. He will struggle for several days and then pass what appears to be normal poop (formed, not mush). It seems as though if it is not super soft, he can't pass it. And then once again the flood gates open and he's loading the toilet again. I can't get anyone to understand (doctors that is) how his bowel movements and their cycles are interfereing with his everyday living. He can't have a bowel movement where he does not need my help wiping due to the mirolax. Or we go the other way and he can't go for days and is in and out of the bathroom all day. It is very frustrating. He starts kindergarten in Sept. and I feel panicked over how he will use the bathroom in school.

My first thought would be homeschooling, if you can manage it. It might be a good idea to begin preparing for it now just in case his situation hasn't improved sufficiently by September.

[guessa1]

This is going to be a dumb question, but when ya'll say "fatty" stool, what do you mean? My daughter is still in diapers and I'm now analyzing every BM she has, b/c clearly something is not right. I just didn't know how you know if it's fatty or not? Help

[scotty]

these all sound like my bowel patterns when i was younger and still now. i can get regular to the point i am going every morning, but one morning i will miss or wont really have to go and next couple days i am all messed up again, constipated in some medical understanding. GI doc gave me Miralax as well. what is this supposed to be some miracle stuff!!!! i never took it. here i was doing everything i could to keep from going what with the subsequent fatigue--never understood how folks could go and then go through there day without needing to immediately eat afterward--doing evrything i could to slow the D and the doc wants me to take Miralax, "you wont even know it is there" he told me. gluten-free has rid me of the painfully large BMs and though i am sill searching for answers, D today well BMs today are much less painful. still in a state of knowing where the bathroom is at all times.....

btw--i notice my son has the same patterns, but no one wil believe and grandma loves to give him chocolate cakes for b-days you know...he has CP and is 8 and still in diapers, when he BMs the cakes it is awful, rank, they all go with a laugh, "what did you eat kid?" then discuss it like it was fruit probably the sugar in his juice, maybe the kid ate too much, 2 days later he does it again and they follow suit.....

[staceyO1]

My 2 year old daughter has sufferd with extremely large stools for over a year. She will have a bm once or twice a week there has been blood sometimes i took her to the docs and they gave her some stool softner which didnt help they tried uping the dose which still didnt help and they told me it would eventually work which didnt she was then put on movicol which she was only supposed to get half a sachet still no diffrence i uped it to the the full sachet which helps a little she doesnt always have large stools but most of the time she does. She has got to a stage where she clenches and wont let it out because of how sore it is i try to put her on the toilet for it to come a little easier for her but she screams and will try hide herself in a corner and wont let you anywere near her it is heart breaking to watch her.

If anyone has any in advice i would really like to hear.

 

Thanks.

[frieze]

Stacy, start your own thread, often persons here are not going to  "see" a post this old.