Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Enterolab Results For My Daughter


aprilh

Recommended Posts

aprilh Apprentice

I got my enterolab results for my daughter who is 6. She has:

fecal antigliadin IGA 74 (normal range <10 unitsl)

Fecal antitissue transglutaminase IGA 35 units (<10 normal range)

fecal anti-casein iga antibody 50 units (normal <10)

HLA-DQB1

HLA-DQB1

(copies of gene from both parents)

serologic equivalent : HLA-DQ 3,1 subtype

Does anyone have experience with this? I understand the fecal antigliadin. But the anitissue transglutaminase I don't get. Says something about having an auto-immune reaction to the human enzyme tissue transglutaminase, secondary to gluten sensitivity

Also, I am thinking she needs to be gluten free all though she does not have very many symptoms. But for future health. Does anyone agree or disagree? The only wierd symptom she has is severe pain in her joints that come and go. I noticed when I put my 2 year old son on gluten free recently and she was gluten free just from eating what we eat, the pain went away. Then I let her start eating it again and it came back. It's a come and go thing, so I can't prove it but its mother's intuition. I know gluten can cause the strangest things in people.

The only other sort of symptom is just being a bit more tired than most kids her age. Also, seemed like she had some trouble concentrating at times. Lately she has been VERY emotional.

I really think she should be gluten free.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Guhlia Rising Star

Those test results indicate that she should definitely be 100% gluten free for life. It's good that you discovered this so early. Have you and her father both been tested for Celiac? It sounds like either or both of you could also have Celiac.

AndreaB Contributor

From what I understand about the ttg is that it is other autoimmune reactions aside from gluten sensitivity.

Your daughter needs to be gluten and casein free according to her results from enterolab. Both of these are for life. She has the dq1 gene which is the one that is associated with neurological problems. What were the subtypes....was she dq3 type 7 or 8?

Your son would probably benefit by going gluten free also. You may want to have him tested as well.

Your daughters symtpoms are significant to the effect of gluten on her body. From what others have posted their children have been much happier mood wise when gluten free. The pain should also go away.

I know this could seem hard to begin with, but you have her age to your advantage. She will grow up not being used to eating gluten and dairy. It will be much easier to transition at a younger age.

aprilh Apprentice

I discovered me all by myself. The dr's couldn't figure out what was wrong because my symptoms were so out of norm. My aunt is celiac and when I made the connection (not by her - she thinks you have to have diarreah!) and went researching on this site mostly, it clicked. I immediately went gluten-free. That is when it also clicked about my son who is 2. I discovered on this site - enterolab and ordered the test. He was positive. I did not order the gene testing on him because I KNEW this is what it was. With my daughter I knew I would have to prove something in order to get the support from hubby and family so I did the gene analysis. My husband who hasn't always been supportive or even understanding what this is, finally said, "hmmmm, wonder if I should get tested too?" He has asthma, lots of joint issues, some gastro issues. His dad has had his colon removed and his grandma has 2-3 autoimmune things going on at once right now. I knew it was on his side. I just didn't know if my little girl got it.

From what I understand about the ttg is that it is other autoimmune reactions aside from gluten sensitivity.

Your daughter needs to be gluten and casein free according to her results from enterolab. Both of these are for life. She has the dq1 gene which is the one that is associated with neurological problems. What were the subtypes....was she dq3 type 7 or 8?

Your son would probably benefit by going gluten free also. You may want to have him tested as well.

Your daughters symtpoms are significant to the effect of gluten on her body. From what others have posted their children have been much happier mood wise when gluten free. The pain should also go away.

I know this could seem hard to begin with, but you have her age to your advantage. She will grow up not being used to eating gluten and dairy. It will be much easier to transition at a younger age.

DQ3,1 Subtype 7,6. Do you mean she could be having another auto-immune reaction other than gluten and dairy? Those are the only 2 I had tested for besides the genes.

AndreaB Contributor

I don't understand alot about the auto immune reactions. I'm thinking other food intolerances, diabetes, etc. You may want to post a new thread about what elevated ttg means in regards to auto immune reactions. There are a lot more knowledgable people on here.

Guest Kathy Ann

DQ1,6 is heavily associated with neurological and psychological symptoms and damage from celiac as opposed to just the gastrointestinal kind. That might explain the emotional issues. I'm so happy that you are finding this out so young. It's so much better than when you are older. If it were me, I would certainly be going gluten free. No question.

I believe the antitissue transglutaminase test does involve another autoimmune reaction. But I think it acts as another confirmation to the presence of active gluten sensitivity. It just supports the probability that damage is actually being done.

celiacgirls Apprentice

My daughter's tiredness and moodiness went away when she went gluten-free/CF. My other daughter and I are less easily distracted since starting this diet. So I think there's a good chance, it will help your daughter, too.

My girls both have elevated antitissue transglutaminase. I am thinking it means there is more of a chance of other problems (like diabetes, MS, fibro, lupus, etc.) developing if they were to continue eating gluten.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Nancym Enthusiast

DQ1 seems to be associated with neurological (aka brain) effects of gluten. I bet that tiredness will go away if you get her off it.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,036
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jill Seiler
    Newest Member
    Jill Seiler
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.