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Have You Ever Not Gotten Sick When You Know For Sure You've Been Glutened?

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emcmaster
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Is it possible?

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Lisa Mentor
Lisa
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Yup, I think that can happen. The longer you go gluten free, the more extensive the healing. In SOME people I think that the gluten needs to build up for a major reaction. In OTHERS, one crumb will do it.

Every one is different.

Ann1231 Enthusiast
Ann1231
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Is it possible?

absolutely. I have to be extremely careful because I can eat gluten and not feel sick or anything. Other times I eat it and I have a really hard set-back. I know I was glutened last week when I ate out at one meal. I felt fine. Then this week I had gluten and have been suffering since. I sometimes have a hard time staying on my diet because I often don't get symptoms.

emcmaster Collaborator
emcmaster
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What if you usually react to hidden gluten, like cc? It seems odd that I could react to a crumb or particle and not react when it was a major ingredient...

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
blueeyedmanda
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Sometimes nothing happens to me and others I spend the day in the bathroom. It is almost like the toss of the coin, it is strange.

Kassie Apprentice
Kassie
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Sometimes nothing happens to me and others I spend the day in the bathroom. It is almost like the toss of the coin, it is strange.

same here

rez Apprentice
rez
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Everyone is so different, I couldn't agree more. I've heard of a lot of people thinking they outgrew Celiac because they had no symptoms. My 8 year old was soooooooo sick and then we put him back on gluten for a challenge (after his tTG came back slightly positive after being gluten free for three months), and nothing happened. It took about a month to the day to start getting the reactions. Now he gets the tummy aches again and he has a mouth FULL of canker sores. It's still nothing like they used to be, although we found out he's lactose intolerant from a breath test. We're keeping him away from dairy or using Lactaid. It seems one of his most outward symptoms was a lactose intolerance. We are having him biopsied next week. This is one important reason I want to find out for sure, because sometimes there are no evident reactions. They say most of the people right now are asymptomatic.

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Guhlia Rising Star
Guhlia
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Actually, I get MUCH sicker from CC than I do if I accidentally eat a gluten ingredient. For example, I get sick from just a crumb if I'm eating out, but if I sat down and ate a piece of pizza I probably wouldn't get sick at all. When I did my gluten challenge a year and a half ago I made it just over a month eating gluten every single day at every meal and snack before i started to get sick. When I started to get sick I only ever got really fatigued and slept a lot. I never did get the major gastro symptoms. I just couldn't deal with being so foggy and tired. If I get CC'd I generally end up with stomach cramps and diarrhea. Luckily, I don't stay sick for very long, generally not more than 24 hours. I get mouth sores too when I get glutened, but I didn't get any when I did my gluten challenge.

I think that maybe (just my opinion) this is because my immune system is very strong when I'm gluten free and it reacts to CC violently, but when I'm eating gluten it gets kind of overwhelmed and sort of shuts down. That's just the way I see it.

Maybe you react to gluten like I do.

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I think that maybe (just my opinion) this is because my immune system is very strong when I'm gluten free and it reacts to CC violently, but when I'm eating gluten it gets kind of overwhelmed and sort of shuts down. That's just the way I see it.

Maybe you react to gluten like I do.

This makes A LOT of sense to me. Thanks for taking the time to explain it!

CMCM Rising Star
CMCM
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In one of my celiac books I remember reading about a similar subject....it said the body actually has an adaptation ability....that when you eat gluten the body can over adapt to the "poison" gluten, hence you may not react, but over time you get overloaded and the adaptation ability breaks down. Something like that, it made some sense to me when I read it. I had always been puzzled by never quite knowing when I'd be affected. Sometimes seemingly not at all, other times quite severely.

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