Which One Of These Foods Could Be Making Me Bloat?

[Sarah8793]

I think I may be developing a new food intolerance in addition to gluten and dairy. For the last month I have been bloating up big time and looking like I am 4 months pregnant! I went to the Gyn and he thinks it may not be gyn related, but ordered an ultrasound anyways. Today I was not bloated and stayed flat all day until after dinner. After dinner I bloated up again. Anyways, I am trying to figure out if there is an offending food. Below is a list of the ones I am suspecting could be behind the bloating. Any ideas about which one I should try to remove and then reintroduce into my diet first?

MSG, grapes, citrus fruits, chicken, apples, peanutbutter, tomatoes, rice, and soy.

*I know soy is often an offender but I don't think it is the culprit here.

Thanks!!

[burdee]

I vote for soy. However, unless you're willing to pay for the Enterolab soy, egg and yeast test to determine a soy allergy, you might have to eliminate all sources of soy (tamari, lecithin, etc.) for a few weeks to see if you get better. If you don't think soy is a problem, I'd also consider eliminating all sources of peanut (nuts, oils, butter) for a week. Then try eliminating all sources of citrus fruits (fresh, juice, citric acid in soda, lemon juice in dressings, etc.) for a couple of weeks. However elimination diets are like playing diet roulette. If you have a good naturopath who uses the ELISA (blood) allergy test, order the basic (100 food) test to determine exactly what other allergies (besides gluten and dairy) you might have. It took me 3 years, 2 kinds of Enterolab tests and 3 kinds of ELISA tests to determine my 7 allergies. However I FINALLY eliminated all the cramping pains and bloating symptoms.

BURDEE

[amberleigh]

I've been bloating up for the last week or so as well. To be honest, before all this celiac disease paranoia (I was just dx'd a month and a half ago), I would have blamed it on too much diet soda or PMS. I drank water water water all day today (NO SODA) and I feel a lot better. I lived with celiac disease for 6 years (I got mis-dx'd with IBS) and feel like I lived a healthy and happy life during that time, so it angers me now that I am blaming all weird body functions on celiac disease.

Anyway, sorry to hijack your post a bit, but I just wanted to throw out another possibility for you.

[Sarah8793]

Burdee,

I should have mentioned that I had testing done through enterolab. My result for soy was 8 with <10 being normal. That was a little over a year ago though and I know things can change. I eat a lot more soy now that I am unable to have gluten. I might do the ELISA testing like you mention because the elimination diet and journalling take so long. Thanks for your suggestions on what to start with.

[Sarah8793]

amberleigh,

Yes, I agree. I have to fight the urge to not blame everything on celiac disease now. That is why I went to see the gyn. and am willing to get the ultrasound. It could very well be non-food related. Thanks.

[Guest CD_Surviver]

did the apple have skin on it because sometimes skin from an apple can affect celiacs.

Lauren

[Sarah8793]

did the apple have skin on it because sometimes skin from an apple can affect celiacs.

Lauren

Yes, most of the time I eat them with the skins on, but not always. I'm always trying to make sure I get enough fiber.

[Guest CD_Surviver]

the skin affects my mom just as if she had had gluten so that may be something.

[Glutenfreefamily]

I have horrible reactions to msg so it could be that.

I also bloat badly to fats due to having gall bladder removal.

[Katydid]

For what its worth, everytime my celiac husband tangles with MSG he bloats up big time -just like he did before his celiac diagnosis. He knows before he leaves a restaurant if he has injested it.

Another additive that gives him a similar response is called TBHQ. It is present in lot of cooking oils used in restaurants but is also listed on many ingredient lists on labels.

[ravenwoodglass]

the skin affects my mom just as if she had had gluten so that may be something.

Just a quick note, apples have a coating applied to them to help them stay fresh longer. That coating is derived from milk. If your Mom has a senstivity to milk products that is why she will react to apple peals. It is used on even the organic ones, she might want to try peeling them and see if she has the same outcome.

[mftnchn]

If the soy isn't the issue, I'd vote for MSG and peanut. At least those would be the first ones I would check because of how common they are as allergens.

[gffamily]

I wonder if it couldn't be yeast??? When I got my enterolab results, I was sensitive to gluten, casein, soy, yeast and eggs. I couldn't handle eliminating everything at once, so I stopped eating the first three six months ago. However, bloating, gas and a constant burning in my throat remained. Then just 2 weeks ago I finally removed yeast, and the bloating, gas and throat irritation went away!

Yeast can be found in several of the foods you mentioned:

skins on apples

grapes

peanut butter

When you tested through enterolab, since you tested for soy you probably also were tested for yeast. I guess it probably wasn't high since you didn't mention it, but as you said, things can change.

Ravenwoodglass, WOW! my daughter and I have to avoid casein and I had no idea about the apple skins!! I don't eat them anymore because of the yeast, but my daughter still does, (or did!!!)

[Ursa Major]

What about corn?

My new granddaughter would have a 'fussy time' every night and wanted to be carried around. She would also have bad gas and would cry and wiggle during the night, never sleeping for long.

My daughter claimed that it was from swallowing too much air, because she gulps her breast milk, beause it shoots out too fast (I had the same problem with my milk). I told her that there is no way she'd get gas from that, and recommended testing for intolerances, which I paid for (I can't handle seeing babies suffer because of mother's ignorance and/or inability to pay for testing).

Anyway, as it turns out, not only is my granddaughter intolerant to dairy (cow and goat), yeast and corn (and a few other more minor ones), but so is my daughter!

I expect that within a few days I will get a report of the baby sleeping through the night without a problem.

So, yeast and corn can definitely be a problem with bloating. I didn't know about dairy on apple peels, talk about hidden allergens, yikes!

[Kim ballard]

I was diagnosed three years ago and have been pretty good since then just a couple of slip-ups. About two months ago I thought I'd go on to soy milk loved the taste, since then have felt really bad "I Mean bad" terrible foul wind nausea and sinusitis so bad that I vomited for two days still I kept on drinking the soy looking for the gluten in my diet thinking that to be the cause. I think I've been in denial don't want to believe there is something else I have to avoid, Well I've made the decision to lay of it today and see what happens. Has anyone had such a bad reaction and how long after abstaining did you start to feel better?

[mftnchn]

Soy has been shown to cause blunting of the villi, similar to gluten. I don't tolerate soy either, though I don't have extreme symptoms it is uncomfortable and lasts a long time. I feel much better away from soy.

[longtimesufferer]

I think I may be developing a new food intolerance in addition to gluten and dairy. For the last month I have been bloating up big time and looking like I am 4 months pregnant! I went to the Gyn and he thinks it may not be gyn related, but ordered an ultrasound anyways. Today I was not bloated and stayed flat all day until after dinner. After dinner I bloated up again. Anyways, I am trying to figure out if there is an offending food. Below is a list of the ones I am suspecting could be behind the bloating. Any ideas about which one I should try to remove and then reintroduce into my diet first?

MSG, grapes, citrus fruits, chicken, apples, peanutbutter, tomatoes, rice, and soy.

*I know soy is often an offender but I don't think it is the culprit here.

Thanks!!

I can not believe that you have MSG?? It has been known for at least 25yrs to be really bad for everyone as an additive in any food!!.

Also too much carb is usually the culprit that can cause bloating.

[Kim ballard]

I was diagnosed three years ago and have been pretty good since then just a couple of slip-ups. About two months ago I thought I'd go on to soy milk loved the taste, since then have felt really bad "I Mean bad" terrible foul wind nausea and sinusitis so bad that I vomited for two days still I kept on drinking the soy looking for the gluten in my diet thinking that to be the cause. I think I've been in denial don't want to believe there is something else I have to avoid, Well I've made the decision to lay of it today and see what happens. Has anyone had such a bad reaction and how long after abstaining did you start to feel better?

I cant believe what five days without drinking soy milk has done bloating nausea wind all the other symptoms virtually gone no more soy in anything for me, I feel good.

[Agape731]

I vote for soy. However, unless you're willing to pay for the Enterolab soy, egg and yeast test to determine a soy allergy, you might have to eliminate all sources of soy (tamari, lecithin, etc.) for a few weeks to see if you get better. If you don't think soy is a problem, I'd also consider eliminating all sources of peanut (nuts, oils, butter) for a week. Then try eliminating all sources of citrus fruits (fresh, juice, citric acid in soda, lemon juice in dressings, etc.) for a couple of weeks. However elimination diets are like playing diet roulette. If you have a good naturopath who uses the ELISA (blood) allergy test, order the basic (100 food) test to determine exactly what other allergies (besides gluten and dairy) you might have. It took me 3 years, 2 kinds of Enterolab tests and 3 kinds of ELISA tests to determine my 7 allergies. However I FINALLY eliminated all the cramping pains and bloating symptoms.

BURDEE

OK, so what in the heck are you ALLOWED to eat. It sounds like you've eliminated everything. A person's gotta eat something.

I'm asking because I KNOW I'm lactose intolerant, I have IBS and now I think I'm glutose intolerant. I'm beginning to get very upset that I may not ever be able to eat again!!

[Sarah8793]

Well, I did figure it out finally. It was the soy. Especially soy milk. But I am removing all soy. I saw improvement within 3 days! And not only did I see improvement, but I feel better in other ways also. More energy. Thanks to all who posted with suggestions.

[hathor]

I wonder if it couldn't be yeast??? When I got my enterolab results, I was sensitive to gluten, casein, soy, yeast and eggs. I couldn't handle eliminating everything at once, so I stopped eating the first three six months ago. However, bloating, gas and a constant burning in my throat remained. Then just 2 weeks ago I finally removed yeast, and the bloating, gas and throat irritation went away!

Yeast can be found in several of the foods you mentioned:

skins on apples

grapes

peanut butter

Is the yeast found in these things the Saccharomyces cerevisiae that Enterolab tests for? They describe it as "dietary yeast" and I've found that it is the type that is used for baker's, brewer's and nutritional yeasts. I hadn't heard that one had to avoid anything that might have other yeasts in or on it. I had asked Enterolab what I had to avoid and was told "anything with yeast in the list of ingredients." They didn't say anything about skins on fruit, PB or anything else. (I just confirmed a week and a half ago that I shouldn't have wine and gluten-free beer. I had assumed that the yeast got filtered out. But the lab told me no )

Where did you find the list for what should be avoided if you have anti-Sacc. cer. antibodies? I tried to do research online, but mostly I found information on Candida overgrowth or what to do with general yeast allergies (which I think is all kinds of yeast).

Maybe I need to email Enterolab again? Cripes, I just had a bunch of grapes.

I've never noticed a reaction to consuming yeast or not, but maybe I've yet to completely eliminate what I was supposed to.

On another note, sorry to hear about the apple skins with the milk derivative. Can't this stuff be washed off?

[Glutenfreefamily]

Is the yeast found in these things the Saccharomyces cerevisiae that Enterolab tests for? They describe it as "dietary yeast" and I've found that it is the type that is used for baker's, brewer's and nutritional yeasts. I hadn't heard that one had to avoid anything that might have other yeasts in or on it. I had asked Enterolab what I had to avoid and was told "anything with yeast in the list of ingredients." They didn't say anything about skins on fruit, PB or anything else. (I just confirmed a week and a half ago that I shouldn't have wine and gluten-free beer. I had assumed that the yeast got filtered out. But the lab told me no )

Where did you find the list for what should be avoided if you have anti-Sacc. cer. antibodies? I tried to do research online, but mostly I found information on Candida overgrowth or what to do with general yeast allergies (which I think is all kinds of yeast).

Maybe I need to email Enterolab again? Cripes, I just had a bunch of grapes.

I've never noticed a reaction to consuming yeast or not, but maybe I've yet to completely eliminate what I was supposed to.

On another note, sorry to hear about the apple skins with the milk derivative. Can't this stuff be washed off?

I avoid yeast for the most part but mine is due to an off the charts mold allergy. I avoid berries, melons and grapes along with yeast containing foods and it does make a huge difference in symptoms for me if I avoid these things since if I dont, I start coughing. If you want to ingest these foods make sure they are refrigerated or frozen to help kill it off is what I was told. I also have a huge list of other foods including any canned or prepared juices, no vinegar, and no peanut butter . If you are interested in the full amount on my list pm me.

[hathor]

Are you the same person as gffamily? That post is the one that mentioned the Enterolab test result, which is the same thing I'm operating from.

I did email Enterolab and their answer wasn't useful:

"The yeast sensitivity test that we provide tests for bakers or brewers yeast. It is possible that other types of yeast can grown on foods such as grapes, fruit peels, etc, however this is not the same type of yeast that we test for. We do know that natural sugars found in many foods can excacerbate candida symptoms and that may be why this other person is avoiding these foods. We really cannot provide you with a list of foods to avoid. I am not sure, but some of the information you are finding on these websites may refer to food allergies, not sensitivities. They are two very different things."

I did feel like crap this morning and I know everything yesterday was OK except for the grapes. It looks like I'm going to have to figure this one out by myself.

I've seen the list for mold allergies before, but it doesn't look like this is the one I need to follow. I did see this list recently, which seems more like it:

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Still, this is a list for an allergy, not a sensitivity. And it doesn't contain peanut butter, unlike gffamily's list apparently.

I think I will start a new thread and solicit opinions from yeast allergic/sensitive folk.

[Glutenfreefamily]

This is my only user name but I have gone through enterolab. I did test positive for casein, gluten, and yeast intolerance. I limit soy due to hypothyroidism. My main list comes from my allergist who happens to be one of enterolab's physicians that they recommend. She also has celiac disease diagnosed through enterolab.

Technically I have an allergy to mold which is found in all yeast containing foods and I have a yeast intolerance show up due to enterolab. Have you ever been checked for a mold allergy through scratch and bloodwork? My nephew tested positive for yeast intolerance through enterolab also and when they did the full allergy testing he also has a mold allergy.

Here is my list of foods to avoid-

cheese of all kinds, any dairy

all alcohol

vinegar and any vinegar containing foods such as mayo, salad dressing, catsup, chili sauce,pickles relish, green olives, mustard

all pickled or smoked meats and fish

all breads and baked goods containing yeast

msg, brewers yeast

sauerkraut

root beer

mushrooms

all dried fruits

all fruit based candy including fruitabu and lara bars (this one stinks for me )

any canned or bottled juices or tomatoes ( I hate this since everything has to be fresh)

all melons

all berries

grapes

peanuts

eat only fresh open canned veggies

eat food within 24 hours of making

refrigerate all fruit or freeze it ( yeast sets up slower)

Its in every breath I take still but I feel good by just eliminating these foods

[Sarah8793]

I can not believe that you have MSG?? It has been known for at least 25yrs to be really bad for everyone as an additive in any food!!.

Also too much carb is usually the culprit that can cause bloating.

Okay, your response seems a little dramatic to me. Uh, I don't buy "MSG," and add it to my foods. That said, it is almost impossible to not get it once in a while as it is in many many foods. If you manage to avoid it 100% of the time, then you must make everything, and I mean just about everything from scratch. Is this the case? If not, do a little research on msg and check your cupboards.