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Uti? Or Kidney?

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Hey everyone... I need some of your advice, and by now you'd think I would know already if I have some sort of infection by getting them so often. I can't really get to a doc who would help me until Saturday morning probably, and this started yesterday... do you think 4 days is too long to wait????

I'm convinced its a kidney infection because well...my kidney hurts. It feels like someone has been poking me sharply there. I have been going to the bathroom at least once an hour, even when I don't have very much to drink. I went out and got some cranberry juice since I'm always told that would like to help. I have also seen a trace of pink, which obviously has to mean some blood.

Please try to help me out here, guys.

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When I had a kidney infection, I got very ill very quickly. I was feeling fine in the morning and then was admitted to the hospital by the evening. Nausea, vomiting and incredible fatigue were the prominent symptoms for me. Fever and confusion were also present as the day went on.

If you're feeling very, very ill and it came on quickly it could be a kidney infection and you could be in extremis if you don't get treatment for 4 days. If you're symptoms aren't severe, it might be a simple bladder infection -- which should still be treated since it could lead to a kidney infection.

If you think you have a kidney infection you should go to the ER ASAP. They are not something to fool around with.

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Right now you are describing a urinary tract infection. The urinary tract includes the kidneys. A bladder infection that remains untreated can ascend up the ureters (the tube from the kidney to the bladder) and then you have a kidney infection + a bladder infection.

Once the kidney is involved - you will get fever/chills and feel very ill.

The pain you are describing could indicate that the infection is indeed making its way into the kidney or that you have a kidney stone. Based on the urgency and frequency of urination plus signs of blood - I would guess that you have a signifcant infection.

You should NOT wait and going to ER is reasonable for a possible kidney infection. Once the kidney becomes inflamed - it affects kidney function and rapidly inflames all the little network of tubules in the kidney itself. Kidney infections, left untreated - may cause scarring in the kidney.

Do not be surpirsed nor embarrased if they ask you about sexual activity as this is a common cause of UTI in women. ..and if it related to that, and it may impact which antibiotics they choose... it doesnt necessarly mean a partner "infected you" but the activity itself can irritate the urethra. I add this info for general knowledge for readers of the post who may find this info helpful....

Please see a physician as soon as you can. Drink plenty of water, avoid caffeine and/or alcohol for now. Cranberry juice can help because it acidifes the urine - bacteria like an alkaline environment.

Sandy


Sandy

Type 1 diabetes - 1986

hypothyroid -1993

pernicious anemia

premature atrial beats

neuropathy

retinopathy

daughter is: age 15

central hypotonia and developmental delay

balance issues (rides an adult 3 wheel bike)

hypothyroid 1996

dermatographia - a form of angioedema 2002

celiac 2004 - by endoscopy

diagnosed Aspergers at age 7 - responded very well (HUGE difference) to gluten-free diet

recovered from Kawasaki (2003)

lactose intolerant - figured out in Oct/06

Gilberts syndrome (April/07)

allergy to stinging insects

scoliosis Jan 2008

nightshade intolerance - figured out April 2008

allergy to Sulfa antibiotics

son is 13

type 1 diabetic - 2003 diagnosed on his 9th birthday

celiac - 2004 by endoscopy

lactose intolerant - figured out Nov/06

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If you guys are trying to scare me into going, it's almost working. I'll make my decision tomorrow morning, see if I get any worse. If I do, I may just try to get to a walk-in clinic (since i'm positive ER would make me wait there alllll day and like last time not listen when I tell them what's wrong--last time I waited 8 hours even after describing that my pain on a scale from 1-10 was a 11!).

I sure have the major fatigue, still pain in the kidney, still can't go more than 1 1/2 hours without having to pee, had a little bit of a fever earlier, and definitely have the nausea (almost threw up when I ate supper)...

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Definitely get to the doc. In the meantime try D-Mannose it is very helpful with uti's. Keeps bacteria from sticking to bladder walls. Can cure infection (in the beginning) without antibiotics. You could start this while you are waiting for your appointment. You can get it at a natural food store.

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If you guys are trying to scare me into going, it's almost working. I'll make my decision tomorrow morning, see if I get any worse. If I do, I may just try to get to a walk-in clinic (since i'm positive ER would make me wait there alllll day and like last time not listen when I tell them what's wrong--last time I waited 8 hours even after describing that my pain on a scale from 1-10 was a 11!).

I sure have the major fatigue, still pain in the kidney, still can't go more than 1 1/2 hours without having to pee, had a little bit of a fever earlier, and definitely have the nausea (almost threw up when I ate supper)...

~ Lisa ~

I am not tring to scare you - I am stating facts. Although I am in the veterinary profession, my work is in the lab as well as patient care. Plus I have had an ascending UTI myself. The fever is telling you that is is likely moving up into the kidney. If you choose to wait, that is your choice. A walk in clinic would be great - less wait than ER because ER has to prioritize cases.

If you feel the ER will make you wait then why not go to a walk in clinic during the day?

Yes ER can be frustrating but if your vitals are good, you will wait. Patients with unstable signs are seen first...you never know what came in through the ambulance bay.

Abdominal pain no matter how bad is evaluated along with vitals. If you have tachycardia and low blood pressure - believe me - you would be seen.

A UTI would be lower priority in ER and yes, likely a long wait if they are busy... but you would be seen at a walk in clinic.

Sandy


Sandy

Type 1 diabetes - 1986

hypothyroid -1993

pernicious anemia

premature atrial beats

neuropathy

retinopathy

daughter is: age 15

central hypotonia and developmental delay

balance issues (rides an adult 3 wheel bike)

hypothyroid 1996

dermatographia - a form of angioedema 2002

celiac 2004 - by endoscopy

diagnosed Aspergers at age 7 - responded very well (HUGE difference) to gluten-free diet

recovered from Kawasaki (2003)

lactose intolerant - figured out in Oct/06

Gilberts syndrome (April/07)

allergy to stinging insects

scoliosis Jan 2008

nightshade intolerance - figured out April 2008

allergy to Sulfa antibiotics

son is 13

type 1 diabetic - 2003 diagnosed on his 9th birthday

celiac - 2004 by endoscopy

lactose intolerant - figured out Nov/06

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I agree that you need to get treated soon. You mentioned that you've been through this before so, do you have a Urologist / doctor you could call and ask for antibiotics ? I don't know if they do this, but if you're in a bind, they might.

I've heard of people treating their UTIs with that cranberry supplement (AZO ? ). I tried to self treat my last UTI with that extra strong cranberry juice. My UTI came on around 2 am and within 6 hours of drinking that cranberry juice almost straight, the spasms stopped and I could get off the toilet. My urine was cranberry colored, but I'm not sure if it was blood or cranberry juice.

By day 3, I thought it was working because I stopped leaking all the time. But I ended up bent over in pain and nauseas in the ER on day 4. Two days on antibiotics and I was fine again. My symptoms were worse than yours are though. Don't know if that matters ...

FYI: My daughter went to a walk-in clinic and was diagnosed with a UTI / kidney infection and given antibiotics. They didn't even look for a kidney stone and she had all the symptoms (vomitting, nausea, horrible pain) She ended up in the ER the next day ... She had a stone that was stuck right outside her bladder. OW !!!!!

So, if you go to a walk-in-clinic, you want to make sure they check for stones. The ER doc said it was common for them not to check ...

Hope you feel better ... Marcia .. Keep us posted ...


Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)

August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...

July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)

Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)

September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.

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