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Liver And Gallbladder Stones


ricardo29

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ricardo29 Newbie

Hi,

I've recently (6 mo's ago) was diagnosed with celiac disease and it felt like solving my life's riddle. I have been suffering from severe health problems for the last 9 years and there seemed to be no hope in site. I had worked with different nutritionists, doctors, natural healers and nothing brought me progress. Finally as soon as I got off of gluten and dairy my health is slowly but consistently getting better. I believe however that I have liver and gallbladder stones. One of the symptoms from this disease is that i had all kind of problems with my liver. The more time goes by the less problems I have but i believe there is a mass load of stones in them (liver and gallbladder). I have read that this is common for celiacs. I did cleanses before and huge amounts of stones would come out, only to come back bcs i continued eating all the stuff that was creating it. I want to know if there is anybody on this site that has had a similar experience with gallstones?

ricardo


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Gallstones tend to be a result of too much fat in the diet combined with other factors. I personally would not chance a cleanse, too many of us have been made very ill by them. If you are still in pain from what you think may be stones they are not hard for a doctor to find with an ultrasound and there are safe ways to get them broken up and out of the body if needed. In general the OTC cleanses tend to much to harsh for us and in addition may have ingredients hidden that we can not tolerate. It is your call but I would not do one.

One last caution about cleanses, if you do have a large stone in one of those organs a cleanse will cause the organ to contract forcefully to try and remove the stone, should that stone be too large to pass you could be in real trouble. Please see your doctor first.

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

I too think a cleanse would be risky. Sometimes they do more good than bad.

Generic Apprentice

My daughter was on a medication to break up stones (prescribed by the DR.) she ended up passing one into the common bile duct and it got stuck. She ended up in the hospital for 9 days and having her gallbladder removed. She had an infection in her liver, gallbladder and pancreas. I wouldn't recommend it at all. It can be serious enough to kill you.

debmidge Rising Star
Gallstones tend to be a result of too much fat in the diet combined with other factors. I personally would not chance a cleanse, too many of us have been made very ill by them. If you are still in pain from what you think may be stones they are not hard for a doctor to find with an ultrasound and there are safe ways to get them broken up and out of the body if needed. In general the OTC cleanses tend to much to harsh for us and in addition may have ingredients hidden that we can not tolerate. It is your call but I would not do one.

One last caution about cleanses, if you do have a large stone in one of those organs a cleanse will cause the organ to contract forcefully to try and remove the stone, should that stone be too large to pass you could be in real trouble. Please see your doctor first.

Totally agree (I had gallbladder removed 8/07) and I add: if you pass a stone or more than one, it could scar your bile duct tube which is a severe problem in that you'll need special surgery --- not all general surgeons have done this type of surgery. A bile duct tube is very delicate. My reading of this topic last year led me to discover that the surgeons who do this tube surgery are in the major cities as you want someone who has done it many times before. It's difficult to reconstruct these tubes; it's not like when they do a bypass and use a vein to replace another vein - there's nothing else in your body that they can use for these tubes.

So please do not do a cleanse without the guidance of a doctor; and again there are prescriptions which breakdown stones, provided the stones are of a certain nature. Some stones do not respond to those medications anyway and then the best solution is to get the gallbladder removed anyway. Also, you could have gallbladder polyps which is another bad scenario.....polpys can be cancerous and you'd want your gallbladder out asap if you had polyps.

So get a proper diagnosis from a gastro doctor and get sound medical advice and don't follow advice from places who just want to sell their product.

By the way, the surgery was quick and painless (same day) and I was out of work for about 2 weeks (I had other health issues that got in the way).

Another by the way, a diseased gallbladder can cause diarrhea .....

hayley3 Contributor

I read that gallstones were not caused by eating fat but just the fake fats. I can't remember exactly how it works. I have a fatty liver so I did some research on it, but it's been awhile. But I stopped eating all trans fats after that. I have already have my gallbladder removed.

I did do some liver cleanses but my bowels were not working at the time so I had to stop. (Probably because of the gluten) I managed one good cleanse but now I believe in gentle cleanses. I have the book, "Natural Therapy for your Liver" by Christopher Hobbs and he has a daily liver cleanse where you just drink 1 cup of citrus juice with 1 tbs olive oil, and follow it with some herbal tea and you are cleansing your liver daily. You do it for 10 days and it's easy. He also has the hard liver cleanse in there and also a gallbladder cleanse. I just do the easy one and take milk thistle.

I'm gonna start doing these again to see if it helps with my weight problems.

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