Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Enterolab


silk

Recommended Posts

silk Contributor

I have heard a lot about this here. I'm just wondering if this is a fairly credible diagnosis? (Not doubting anyone, just considering it for myself and am curious)

Also, for those who have used it, did you find that your M.D. gave any weight to the results from Enterolab or have they just pooh-poohed it. (Sorry, really bad pun, but intended! :lol: )

Also, I seem to remember that someone said if you do the full panel of testing they also check for other intolerance. This would be the biggy to me because I know gluten is a problem but I continue to have other GI symptoms after eating and can't pinpoint it. I am not really wild about doing the elimination diet nor am I wild about the expense of testing through Enterolab, but I consider that the testing would probably be much less costly when you factor in the cost of foods (pepto for the bad stuff you ingestJ) and the time spent suffering until you figure this stuff out.

Would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



b91hd7fjk Apprentice

Sorry I cant answer your question but i am toally in the same boat and am desperate for feedback on it....I still dont know what to do and like you said financially it would be better to choose between the two. Aslo, what test on Entrolab should you check offto get done if u are already diagnosed Celiac and on the Glutenfree diet....I want to know intolerences not necessarily allergies.

Ok thanks.

-Staci

confused Community Regular
Sorry I cant answer your question but i am toally in the same boat and am desperate for feedback on it....I still dont know what to do and like you said financially it would be better to choose between the two. Aslo, what test on Entrolab should you check offto get done if u are already diagnosed Celiac and on the Glutenfree diet....I want to know intolerences not necessarily allergies. Ok thanks.-Staci

Staci, you could do the package of soy yeast and eggs, i think it is 199, i havent checked there lately. I was going to have that done when i retest my malabsorption this coming month.

paula

Ginsou Explorer

I would definately have the Enterolab tests done. My blood tests for celiac, ordered by my gastroenterologist, were negative. I had no insurance, and eventually ended up in the emergency room....everything I ate was making me sick and I was in a lot of pain 24/7. I learned of Enterolab thru this website and had the full panel done.....in addition to double celiac/gluten genes, I have a problem with casein and soy. I'm also lactose intolerant. I would have never known of these health problems if I didn't have the tests done. My hospital bill was in the $7,000 range and associated medical bills were about $1,000.00. Enterolab definately was cheaper. I had a CT scan done in the hospital and that eliminated any life threatening problem, and was advised to have an endoscopy and colonoscopy done. I will have medical insurance coverage in October 2008 and will have those procedures done at that time. The gastroenterologist practice where I will have the endo and colo done recommend and believe the results of Enterolab. The gastro dr. himself has celiac.

I've had heartburn problems for the past 4 years that Nexium and Protonix did not help. The heartburn has all but disappeared since changing my diet.

culhanegirl Newbie
I have heard a lot about this here. I'm just wondering if this is a fairly credible diagnosis? (Not doubting anyone, just considering it for myself and am curious)

Also, for those who have used it, did you find that your M.D. gave any weight to the results from Enterolab or have they just pooh-poohed it. (Sorry, really bad pun, but intended! :lol: )

Also, I seem to remember that someone said if you do the full panel of testing they also check for other intolerance. This would be the biggy to me because I know gluten is a problem but I continue to have other GI symptoms after eating and can't pinpoint it. I am not really wild about doing the elimination diet nor am I wild about the expense of testing through Enterolab, but I consider that the testing would probably be much less costly when you factor in the cost of foods (pepto for the bad stuff you ingestJ) and the time spent suffering until you figure this stuff out.

Would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks.

I tested with them and found out I was also sensitive to Casein as well as gluten which helped a lot because I was still having symptoms after eliminating gluten and was getting really frustrated and confused. After also eliminating casein my symptoms went away. I also had my sons tested even though they showed no symptoms. They tested positive and we are now all on the Gluten-free Casein-free diet. My youngest (19 months) is small for his age and this may be due to the gluten. It has only been two months so I am curious to see if his growth will be positively affected. My five year old is better behaved since off gluten and dairy which is all he ate before!

celiacgirls Apprentice

My whole family has done the testing and the results seem accurate to me. Most of our doctors think it isn't credible but they don't really need to believe it. They do honor my requests for gluten free meds. I can't think of any other way I need them to believe in it.

holdthegluten Rising Star

They are an extremely accurate lab..............a great choice! Another great lab is Biohealth, but you need a doctor to order their tests.............google biohealth.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



silk Contributor
They are an extremely accurate lab..............a great choice! Another great lab is Biohealth, but you need a doctor to order their tests.............google biohealth.

Thanks for the information! Can anyone tell me if, because Biohealth requires a dr. to order the tests, does your health insurance cover them?

Also, since by process of elimination I know that I have problems with gluten, is it possible to do conventional testing through my m.d. for other things like dairy, soy, eggs, nuts, etc. so that ins. would cover it?

Bad day yesterday and back on the cream of rice cereal and feeling better but this can only go on for so long! Blah Blah Blah! :blink:

b91hd7fjk Apprentice

It is rare that I go an entire week feeling healthy...I was diagnosed Celiac (via bloodtest and biopsy) in 05' since then I noticed an improvement however lately I have had a lot of difficulty functioning. I have constipation for days then diahrea for an entire day usually. I finally convinced my general doctor to send me to someone for help...I saw an allergist who performed a scratch test on my back. (intentionally scratched me with gluten and I pretty much died from anxiety attack :huh: ) They finally said it came back completely clear so basically im not allergic to anything I am intolerant to things that are still giving me problems. I know now that they are totally different..my allergist told me that NO TEST CAN TEST FOR INTOLERENCES. I told him about Entero Lab and he basically told me it was a load of crap...I have been back and fourth about the topic because of all the positive feedback I have heard on this site. Anyways, I want to get the best test option for what I need but the test listings are soooo confusing. I know I dont need a test for gluten but....I want a test for everything else haha. good luck.

I am going to call my insurance Monday to see if they would be willing to pay a portion of it...otherwise Ill have to wait until I win the lotto...my allergist is trying to send me to see a nutritionist this week but thats $25 copay a visit...pretty steep.

Ok-hope my story helps.

-Staci

psipsina Rookie

I did an IgG panel from my Naturopath when I was originally trying to figure out what was wrong with me. The results were very accurate. After being off the foods for about 6 months I reintroduced them one by one to see if I was still having a reaction or if the higher IgG levels were due to leaky gut. Many of them were true allergies/intolerances. Some were things I would have never thought of eliminating like green beans which I have an awful reaction to.

Tim-n-VA Contributor
They finally said it came back completely clear so basically im not allergic to anything I am intolerant to things that are still giving me problems. I know now that they are totally different..my allergist told me that NO TEST CAN TEST FOR INTOLERENCES. I told him about Entero Lab and he basically told me it was a load of crap...I have been back and fourth about the topic because of all the positive feedback I have heard on this site.

I have only done a casual scan of the Entero Lab website but I only saw reference to gluten sensitivity, not to "intolerance". I have seen some usage of "intolerance" to mean only a digestive system response and that might be the context where the allergist was saying there was no test for intolerance.

By way of comparison I've seen "intolerance" used in a variety of contexts on this website to include use as an umbrella term to cover any negative response to gluten.

Does enterolab use the pharas "intolerant" or do they use "sensitivity" in their results?

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Enterolab was my choice when after over 4 years gluten-free I started reacting to stuff after a severe GI illness. I had them test for everything other than gluten, we already know I can't have that. The test showed antibodies to casien and soy and problems have resolved after eliminating them.

Enterolab does not technically diagnose people, what they do is look for antibodies to the offending foods. Antibodies do not form without a reactive substance to set them off. If your body is forming antibodies to something it does not like it and is trying to protect you from the effects the substance is having on you. The substance that is causeing the antibody reactions in celiac and other intolerances spreads throughout the bloodstream and into every organ, these antibodies, once they are in high enough numbers will start to attack the persons own tissues in an attempt to rid the body of the 'foreign and toxic' substance. A lot of damage can be done before the levels get high enough to be found in conventional blood work, if they can be found at all as up to 30% will show negative on conventional testing even if close to death. Enterolab stool testing can find those antibodies before they get to a fatal level, something conventional testing can not do. The only tests that are more accurate for celiac are the mucosal challenge and biopsy of the mouth or rectum but those tests are not available at this point, at least in the US.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    2. - trents replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    3. - SilkieFairy posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    4. - catnapt posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      0

      anyone here diagnosed with a PARAthyroid disorder? (NOT the thyroid) the calcium controlling glands

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,322
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    James Minton
    Newest Member
    James Minton
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @SilkieFairy! You could also have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) as opposed to celiac disease. They share many of the same symptoms, especially the GI ones. There is no test for NCGS. Celiac disease must first be ruled out.
    • trents
      Under the circumstances, your decision to have the testing done on day 14 sounds very reasonable. But I think by now you know for certain that you either have celiac disease or NCGS and either way you absolutely need to eliminate gluten from your diet. I don't think you have to have an official diagnosis of celiac disease to leverage gluten free service in hospitals or institutional care and I'm guessing your physician would be willing to grant you a diagnosis of gluten sensitivity (NCGS) even if your celiac testing comes up negative. Also, you need to be aware that oats (even gluten free oats) is a common cross reactor in the celiac community. Oat protein (avenin) is similar to gluten. You might want to look at some other gluten free hot  breakfast cereal alternatives.
    • SilkieFairy
      After the birth of my daughter nearly 6 years ago, my stools changed. They became thin if they happened to be solid (which was rare) but most of the time it was Bristol #6 (very loose and 6-8x a day). I was on various medications and put it down to that. A few years later I went on this strict "fruit and meat" diet where I just ate meat, fruit, and squash vegetables. I noticed my stools were suddenly formed, if a bit narrow. I knew then that the diarrhea was probably food related not medication related. I tried following the fodmap diet but honestly it was just too complicated, I just lived with pooping 8x a day and wondering how I'd ever get and keep a job once my children were in school.  This past December I got my yearly bloodwork and my triglycerides were high. I looked into Dr. William Davis (wheat belly author) and he recommended going off wheat and other grains. This is the first time in my life I was reading labels to make sure there was no wheat. Within 2 weeks, not only were my stools formed and firm but I was only pooping twice a day, beautiful formed Bristol #4.  Dr. Davis allows some legumes, so I went ahead and added red lentils and beans. Nervous that the diarrhea would come back if I had IBS-D. Not only did it not come back, it just made my stools even bigger and beautiful. Still formed just with a lot more width and bulk. I've also been eating a lot of plant food like tofu, mushrooms, bell peppers, hummus etc which I thought was the cause of my diarrhea before and still, my stools are formed. In January I ran a genetics test because I knew you had to have the genes for celiac. The report came back with  DQ 2.2 plus other markers that I guess are necessary in order for it to be possible to have celiac. Apparently DQ 2.2 is the "rarer" kind but based on my report it's genetically possible for me to have celiac.  I know the next step is to bring gluten back so I can get testing but I am just not wanting to do that. After suffering with diarrhea for years I can't bring myself to do it right now. So that is where I am!   
    • catnapt
      learned I had a high PTH level in 2022 suspected to be due to low vit D  got my vit D level up a bit but still have high PTH   I am 70 yrs old (today in fact) I am looking for someone who also has hyperparathyroidism that might be caused by malabsorption    
    • catnapt
      I am on day 13 of eating gluten  and have decided to have the celiac panel done tomorrow instead of Wed. (and instead of extending it a few more weeks) because I am SO incredibly sick. I have almost no appetite and am not able to consume the required daily intake of calcium to try to keep up with the loss of calcium from the high parathyroid hormone and/or the renal calcium leak.    I have spent the past 15 years working hard to improve my health. I lost 50lbs, got off handfuls of medications, lowered my cholesterol to enviable levels, and in spite of having end stage osteoarthritis in both knees, with a good diet and keeping active I have NO pain in those joints- til now.  Almost all of my joints hurt now I feel like someone has repeatedly punched me all over my torso- even my ribs hurt- I have nausea, gas, bloating, headache, mood swings, irritability, horrid flatulence (afraid to leave the house or be in any enclosed spaces with other people- the smell would knock them off their feet) I was so sure that I wanted a firm diagnosis but now- I'm asking myself is THIS worth it? esp over the past 2 yrs I have been feeling better and better the more I adjusted my diet to exclude highly refined grains and processed foods. I didn't purposely avoid gluten, but it just happened that not eating gluten has made me feel better.   I don't know what I would have to gain by getting a definitive diagnosis. I think possibly the only advantage to a DX would be that I could insist on gluten-free foods in settings where I am unable to have access to foods of my choice (hospital, rehab, nursing home)  and maybe having a medical reason to see a dietician?   please let me know if it's reasonable to just go back to the way I was eating.  Actually I do plan to buy certified gluten-free oats as that is the only grain I consume (and really like) so there will be some minor tweaks I hope and pray that I heal quickly from any possible damage that may have been done from 13 days of eating gluten.    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.