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Autoimmune Adrenal -- Related?

huevo-no-bueno

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huevo-no-bueno Apprentice
huevo-no-bueno
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I am new here.

There is a lot of discussion on celiac and gluten intolerance having a connection to autoimmune thyroid disease.

I am wondering about the connection to autoimmune adrenal issues--it just makes sense!

Take a look at this link if you wish. Open Original Shared Link It discusses adrenocorticol autoantibodies and 21-hydrozy enzymes.

Thanks for chiming in!

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2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
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It is not uncommon for a person with one autoimmune disease to have other autoimmune diseases. Many just have one. For others they can cluster...look up polyendocrine autoimmune disorders. Certain disease are more likely to occur together: eg : Type 1 diabetes and thyroid, or celiac and thyroid, thyroid and adrenal failure (addisons), adrenal failure and celiac, pernicious anemia...the list goes on... They can occur singly or more than one disease in any combination in a certain individual.

This is a good website: Open Original Shared Link

georgie Enthusiast
georgie
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There is a lot of discussion on celiac and gluten intolerance having a connection to autoimmune thyroid disease.

I am wondering about the connection to autoimmune adrenal issues--it just makes sense!

Look up PolyGlandular Autoimmune Syndrome Type 2. Its a rare conditon but common if that makes sense :P

Open Original Shared Link

Also be aware that adrenal antibodies can disappear and be absent, if the disease has gone undiagnosed for a long time.

huevo-no-bueno Apprentice
huevo-no-bueno
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Georgie,

Thanks for that link. I don't think that's what I have since my thyroid is fine. I have a relative with Hashimoto's, so I forwarded the link to them. I believe this person is an undiagnosed celiac.

With adrenals, even the subclinical can feel reeeeeaaallly bad....

georgie Enthusiast
georgie
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With adrenals, even the subclinical can feel reeeeeaaallly bad....

This could be due to what is defined as 'subclinical'. Some Blood tests are not accurate for adrenal problems and some Drs won't refer you for further more advanced and accurate adrenal testing until a problem shows on the basic tests .....so ....you can waste years waiting to get an answer. And autoimmune Addisons can be slowly progressive or happen in weeks. I know some people that have taken 30 years to be diagnosed !

Read up what an Addisons Crisis is - early warning signs - keep a check on electrolytes , ALL associated Antibody tests and serum cortisol every year. Report unusual symptoms to a Dr like salt or vinegar cravings. Check Blood Pressure. Keep a Diary of symptoms for when you do see your Dr...

I believe that Addisons is the 100% requirement for PGA2 and that Hashimotos is only one of the possibles ( like Celiac).

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Leiana Rookie
Leiana
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This could be due to what is defined as 'subclinical'. Some Blood tests are not accurate for adrenal problems and some Drs won't refer you for further more advanced and accurate adrenal testing until a problem shows on the basic tests .....so ....you can waste years waiting to get an answer. And autoimmune Addisons can be slowly progressive or happen in weeks. I know some people that have taken 30 years to be diagnosed !

Read up what an Addisons Crisis is - early warning signs - keep a check on electrolytes , ALL associated Antibody tests and serum cortisol every year. Report unusual symptoms to a Dr like salt or vinegar cravings. Check Blood Pressure. Keep a Diary of symptoms for when you do see your Dr...

I believe that Addisons is the 100% requirement for PGA2 and that Hashimotos is only one of the possibles ( like Celiac).

then it is not curable. just treatable to a certain extent. if you dont know which autoimmune disease is causing it then what??? all this testing is almost getting pointless it seems. i have low cortisol levels, take cortef and lost tons of weight and muscle. cant wait years to find out what is causing this. its scary.

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