Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Malodextrin?


blondebombshell

Recommended Posts

blondebombshell Collaborator

does malodextrin have gluten in it?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



happygirl Collaborator

Maltodextrin, in the USA, is generally made from corn. If it were to be made from wheat, it would be required to be listed, like "wheat maltodextrin" or "maltodextrin (wheat)".

The term is misleading because it has "malt" in it.

larry mac Enthusiast

Somebody, I won't mention names, needs a couple of gluten-free books. I would highly recommend any two gluten-free books. A basic indoctrination into the gluten-free lifestyle is a must. A search for "gluten-free books" will reveal a wealth of seasoned opinions.

best regards, lm

MDRB Explorer

Well, I live in Australia, so the labeling laws etc might be different here. However, in Australia maltodextrin is most definitely derived from wheat and therefore has gluten in it. If you are not sure, call the company and ask.

jewi0008 Contributor
does malodextrin have gluten in it?

I have heard that most maltodextrin in the US is corn based. Therefore, no. That being said, BE VERY CAREFUL. Maltodextrin is not good for us to eat anyways...it's unnatural and I always react to it. I learned this from my overconsumption of Splenda..which, I have completely cut from my diet!

trents Grand Master

Just an aside as the present discussion reminds me about the same question with regard to "modified food starch". In the US, the convention is to use corn to make modified food starch, even though the source may not be specified. This would not necessarily hold true for food products coming from other countries, even Canada.

Also, "monsodium gutamate" has no gluten in it. Just sounds like it.

gfp Enthusiast
Well, I live in Australia, so the labeling laws etc might be different here. However, in Australia maltodextrin is most definitely derived from wheat and therefore has gluten in it. If you are not sure, call the company and ask.

Yep it depends WHERE the malto dextrine is from.

Europe has both wheat and non-wheat derived .. the US only corn etc.

However malto-dextrine is a commodity. Its a waste product which is processed into something that can be sold. A company may buy this on a world market and because its essentially a waste product its bought and sold along with other commodites, big multinationals order it by the thousands of tons along with othr similar products. If you live in the US domestic is probably cheapest but not always.... shipping might be combined with higher value food additives and hence a big shipment might also contain maltodextrine.

An analogy is oil. When you buy gas it is often mixed from many sources. The raw product (crude) is purchased and processed (refined) but one oil company might not process their own but sell it and buy crude on a world market. Even after they process it they often sell gas at the pumps from someone elses processing and sell the waste products on elsewhere. SO when you buy a plastic garden chair the original source of the hydrocarbons is probably a mix worldwide.

Oil companies have whole departments that organise the buying and selling of different components and waste products based on world prices, transport costs and shipping with other products. I don't expect huge multi-national food companies to do any different?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



happygirl Collaborator

However, regardless of where the food is made, if it is sold in the US, US food labeling laws apply.

home-based-mom Contributor
However, regardless of where the food is made, if it is sold in the US, US food labeling laws apply.

:ph34r: Must make for an interesting scramble behind closed doors for the companies that purchase from multiple suppliers and don't seem to have a clue ~ or at least won't admit to having a clue ~ what is actually in the product they ship out for public consumption! :P

gfp Enthusiast
:ph34r: Must make for an interesting scramble behind closed doors for the companies that purchase from multiple suppliers and don't seem to have a clue ~ or at least won't admit to having a clue ~ what is actually in the product they ship out for public consumption! :P

This is pretty much my opinion.

The bigger the company the more disassociated it becomes... so some guy purchasing has a job of getting the cheapest bul ingredients and someone in another state or even country has the responsibility for QA. Having worked for a few large internationals it sems to usually be a case of the left hand not knowing (or caring) what the right hand is doing. Divisions have performance quotas and metrics, if they meet them then noone gets canned. Anything that hits the bottomline gets priority so QA comes a way's down the chain.

As is usual QA only becomes important AFTER a problem... up to which it is a minimal budget item since it has no direct revenue stream.

I find it hard to believe that in a huge multinational people care about the laws anywhere near as much as plausible deniability and their own a**.

home-based-mom Contributor
This is pretty much my opinion.

The bigger the company the more disassociated it becomes... so some guy purchasing has a job of getting the cheapest bul ingredients and someone in another state or even country has the responsibility for QA. Having worked for a few large internationals it sems to usually be a case of the left hand not knowing (or caring) what the right hand is doing. Divisions have performance quotas and metrics, if they meet them then noone gets canned. Anything that hits the bottomline gets priority so QA comes a way's down the chain.

As is usual QA only becomes important AFTER a problem... up to which it is a minimal budget item since it has no direct revenue stream.

I find it hard to believe that in a huge multinational people care about the laws anywhere near as much as plausible deniability and their own a**.

Yup. I was in a meeting one time and we were discussing a previous mantra of "safety, service, budget" and I said "what was really budget, budget, budget." The guy said (no kidding) "No it wasn't budget, budget, budget - - - well OK it was budget, budget, budget."

:lol::blink::ph34r:

The left hand doesn't have any idea what the right hand is doing because the "brain" never lets either know that it matters to their own effectiveness and the company as a whole what the other one is doing. And so no one cares.

Welcome to mega-corporate America! :unsure:

gfp Enthusiast
Yup. I was in a meeting one time and we were discussing a previous mantra of "safety, service, budget" and I said "what was really budget, budget, budget." The guy said (no kidding) "No it wasn't budget, budget, budget - - - well OK it was budget, budget, budget."

:lol::blink::ph34r:

The left hand doesn't have any idea what the right hand is doing because the "brain" never lets either know that it matters to their own effectiveness and the company as a whole what the other one is doing. And so no one cares.

Welcome to mega-corporate America! :unsure:

Like I observed really, I once sat in on a meeting only because an other division were using our high tech projector and I had the meeting room 1st.

Company in question were discussing saving money on plastic bags at service stations and someone pointed out if they got any thinner they would just break on the forecourt.

The someone said , good they will have to buy the item again ...

Then someone finally mentioned safety ... what if it was flammable, brake fluid etc.. (finally I thought) ..

Nope noone gave a damn unless it meant closing the gas station and loosing revenue.

(including the guy who brought it up)

I think this is global corps everywhere, not limited to corporate america...

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,331
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kristy2026
    Newest Member
    Kristy2026
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.