Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Annoying Friends


Chef16

Recommended Posts

Chef16 Apprentice

I have been gluten free for 2 years so I've gotten pretty good at explaining Celiac (and everything that goes with it) to people, but I have these two friends who just DO NOT get it! They are twins and they come from a household where they don't even think about what they eat. I have tried everything I know; explaining what happens to my body when I eat gluten, how I make most of my food, ect. Even after being friends for over a year, they still don't understand that I can't eat gluten, not 'flour'. Pretty much every day they offer me food, that I can't eat and don't understand why I don't take it. They think that I'm overreacting and I just need to get some pill for it (I wish! :P ). Does anyone have any ideas? No matter how hard I try, I can't make them understand and they think that I don't accept their food because I don't like them!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

Someone on this forum coined the term "rat poison" for gluten, that every time we look at gluten we see a rat poison label on it, and there is no way we would consider eating rat poison. You could substitute whatever you want, arsenic, Round-Up, dog poop, whatever would completely gross you out or kill you, and give this analogy. Maybe they will get the idea if you can graphically describe the effects it will have on you if you have even one crumb of it, and that there is no antidote for it. If that doesn't get across to them, consider finding new friends. :rolleyes:

summerteeth Enthusiast
Someone on this forum coined the term "rat poison" for gluten, that every time we look at gluten we see a rat poison label on it, and there is no way we would consider eating rat poison. You could substitute whatever you want, arsenic, Round-Up, dog poop, whatever would completely gross you out or kill you, and give this analogy. Maybe they will get the idea if you can graphically describe the effects it will have on you if you have even one crumb of it, and that there is no antidote for it. If that doesn't get across to them, consider finding new friends. :rolleyes:

I use "shards of glass" and explain that that is what my stomach feels like afterwards. For people who just "don't get it" or think it would be okay for me to take "just a little bite", I get graphic. Then they get it. ;)

tarnalberry Community Regular

I would just be boringly repetitious. "Sorry, I can't have gluten. I don't want to be sick for two weeks."

  • 2 weeks later...
G-freegal12 Contributor

Think of the most vile, discusting, gastrointestinal discription of what happens to you, add a lot of exageration and tell them when they offer you something. :lol: It's acctually really, really fun to watch their faces shrivel up in that "Ohmanthatssogross" expression.. :rolleyes: Start with "when the vile thing wriggles it's way down my throat it..." then get creative.

gfp Enthusiast

Some people will not and never will 'get it'.

Quite a few people here have the same problem and the best answer I can give is "At least you choose your friends".

I lost some of my oldest friends because they just couldn't (or wouldn't) get it.

>>Someone on this forum coined the term "rat poison" for gluten,

That was probably me: However Rat poisons are usually a lot less bad for you than gluten.

Strychnine used to be given as a medical drug where the lethal dose was about 32mg and under 5mg considered safe.

My father takes more Warfarin (a strychnine deriviative) a day than I could eat gluten in a weak...

Squidge Newbie

Tell them it's like a very sensitive allergy. They wouldn't expect someone allergic to peanuts to eat even regular M&Ms because of cross-contamination. Also, make them do research on it. I'm lucky, all my friends are chemists and chemists really understand cross-contamination.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



misslexi Apprentice

I would get snippy with them at that point. Something like "would you shove peanuts at someone with a nut allergy?" obviously, they should say no (or you really need new friends!) then say something like "then stop shoving gluten at me! its the same thing!"

so many people don't get it. I haven't been gluten-free for very long, and I already know its going to be hard. people don't understand how something they eat every day of their lives can make someone else so violently ill.

  • 4 weeks later...
Martok42 Rookie

How close are you to these friends? Is it not close enough that you wouldn't mind if you stopped hanging out with them? My suggestion, find smarter friends. No offense intended, just saying. That's what I would do.

  • 3 months later...
Rebecca Madrid Newbie

Okay, I know this post is old but I wanted to comment.

I was away at school in NL and I'm from ON. After 6 months of severe illness following over a year of minor symptoms, I finally took it upon myself to find the problem. eventually I started getting better really slowly, but living off dining hall food was chalk full of cross-contamination issues. Needless to say it has been a slow recovery.

Now to the point, I lived in a house with 100 people who liked to ask questions, make funny faces, etc. This kinda got to be routine after a while, and I got accustomed to the repetitive answers we've all used. But my roommate just wouldnt get it, she was rude and ignorant. She'd get frustrated when I wouldn't split on a pizza, like i was an inconvenience to her.

Usually when I got sick I would spend the night on the bathroom floor so as not to wake her. Next time dining hall got me, I was not nearly as courteous. I stayed in the room that night, and after almost 8 hours of waking up to me being violently ill, she finally realized the severity and stopped acting so oblivious.

Obviously this is not advice in any form, I just thought I would share the hilarious way in which i helped my roommate to understand.

The advice I do have is, try to be patient, its hard to understand if you've never been there, and look for people who have more in common with you. For example, my new roommate has a peanut allergy so she is really respectful of me as I am her.

  • 3 weeks later...
stef-the-kicking-cuty Enthusiast

I've had so many "friends" in the past, that I thought, were really good friends, only to find out, that they "just don't get it". Even though at first it really hurt cutting off the connection, I am now happier and glad, I did it. I was at the point, where I thought, I'd rather have only one friend, but therefore a good friend. So I started saying good bye to some. And guess what, I got new friends, who really understood me. It really hurt at the beginning and you won't forget that fast, but it's worth doing it every time.

kareng Grand Master

It's the annoying relatives that are harder to cut out. They have a way of popping up at family gatherings. :)

poiuyanthony Newbie

they're idiot

just say you can't have it

they wont understand about the molecular breakdown in the villi anyways

so when they ask why just say i cant eat gluten

and ask them to please stop offering you food if they cant get it right

maybe one day...

  • 1 month later...
trilobitian Newbie

Oh my gosh I know what you mean!!!

I have one friend who thinks you can "cook the gluten off" on like grills and stuff. That burning it off "kills it" and that even if someone touched my food after they touched someones bun without washing their hands that it wasn't "like it's that sensitive anyway"

I feel bad that I have to say something so obvious like "you can't just kill off the gluten by raising the temperature because gluten isn't alive. The idea of sanitizing is for things that are alive. Gluten isn't alive or dead, it just is."

And "yes, it is that sensitive. It can seriously hurt me."

I get so frustrated!

  • 1 month later...
Mike7 Newbie

In a situation like this have you tried telling them that you are seriously "allergic" to gluten and that gluten is in most foods. They must understand that if someone is seriously allergic to peanut butter, they can die from eating it. Try that and hopefully it will shock them enough to never offer you gluten-packed snacks again...unless they are are incredibly twisted with understanding the human body.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,372
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    cianb4121
    Newest Member
    cianb4121
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Russ H
      There were some interesting talks, particularly Prof Ludvig Stollid's talk on therapeutics for coeliac disease.    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRcl2mPE0WdigRtJPvylUJbkCx263KF_t
    • Rejoicephd
      Thank you @trents for letting me know you experience something similar thanks @knitty kitty for your response and resources.  I will be following up with my doctor about these results and I’ll read the articles you sent. Thanks - I really appreciate you all.
    • knitty kitty
      You're right, doctors usually only test Vitamin D and B12.  Both are really important, but they're not good indicators of deficiencies in the other B vitamins.  Our bodies are able to store Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D in the liver for up to a year or longer.  The other B vitamins can only be stored for much shorter periods of time.  Pyridoxine B 6 can be stored for several months, but the others only a month or two at the longest.  Thiamine stores can be depleted in as little as three days.  There's no correlation between B12 levels and the other B vitamins' levels.  Blood tests can't measure the amount of vitamins stored inside cells where they are used.  There's disagreement as to what optimal vitamin levels are.  The Recommended Daily Allowance is based on the minimum daily amount needed to prevent disease set back in the forties when people ate a totally different diet and gruesome experiments were done on people.  Folate  requirements had to be updated in the nineties after spina bifida increased and synthetic folic acid was mandated to be added to grain products.  Vitamin D requirements have been updated only in the past few years.   Doctors aren't required to take as many hours of nutritional education as in the past.  They're educated in learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical corporations.  Natural substances like vitamins can't be patented, so there's more money to be made prescribing pharmaceuticals than vitamins.   Also, look into the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, developed by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, a Celiac herself.  Her book The Paleo Approach has been most helpful to me.  You're very welcome.  I'm glad I can help you around some stumbling blocks while on this journey.    Keep me posted on your progress!  Best wishes! P.S.  interesting reading: Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/
    • NanceK
      So interesting that you stated you had sub clinical vitamin deficiencies. When I was first diagnosed with celiac disease (silent), the vitamin levels my doctor did test for were mostly within normal range (lower end) with the exception of vitamin D. I believe he tested D, B12, magnesium, and iron.  I wondered how it was possible that I had celiac disease without being deficient in everything!  I’m wondering now if I have subclinical vitamin deficiencies as well, because even though I remain gluten free, I struggle with insomnia, low energy, body aches, etc.  It’s truly frustrating when you stay true to the gluten-free diet, yet feel fatigued most days. I’ll definitely try the B-complex, and the Benfotiamine again, and will keep you posted. Thanks once again!
    • knitty kitty
      Segments of the protein Casein are the same as segments of the protein strands of gluten, the 33-mer segment.   The cow's body builds that Casein protein.  It doesn't come from wheat.   Casein can trigger the same reaction as being exposed to gluten in some people.   This is not a dairy allergy (IGE mediated response).  It is not lactose intolerance.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.