Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

More Testing And Sooooo Confused.


Bobbijo6681

Recommended Posts

Bobbijo6681 Apprentice

I was diagnosed in January with Celiac after both a postive blood test and endoscope biopsy. I have been very diligant about gluten for at least the last 2 weeks, but have been careful since being diagnosed. Last week I went back to see my GI and he ordered more blood work and an ultrasound of my abdomen. The nurse called yesterday and my Liver Fuction test came back abnormal as well as an elivated SED rate. They want to check both of these again in 6 weeks and then we will go from there. In the mean time I am FREAKING out??? What does all of this mean? Now what?

To add to this I am so angry with doctors that I have a hard time believing what any of them say. Last January I started this journey due to painful swelling in my feet and legs (periphal Neuropathy)after seeing my PCP he was unsure of the cause so sent me to an ortho, he didn't have a clue and sent me to a Neurologist. He knew from the second I he started asking me questions that I had a B12 deficiency. He ordered the lab work to confirm and told me to follow up with the PCP. After the results showed B12 near 150 I was scheduled to see my PCP. After reviewing all of my symptoms and problems that were going on, he proceeded to tell me that the B12 was not causing my pain, and in fact he believed that I was depressed and that depression can cause real pain. I asked multiple questions about the B12 defiency and he had no clue about it, but yet he demanded that taking a B12 supplement would not help. How do you know that? He wanted to prescribe anti depressants and I refused to take the prescription. NOW I find out that the defiencey was probably caused due to the Celiac disease, and that the B12 defiency can cause the "depression" symptoms that he wanted to treat. I am not a depressed person, but at the time I was in so much pain, I rarely left the house except to go to work, I couldn't sleep because of the pain, and I rarely ate. Although those are all signs of depression, they were caused because I was in pain, not because I was depressed. I changed doctors after I was treated so poorly by this one, and although my current PCP is much more attentive, I still feel that I know more about what I am dealing with than they do.

Well to make a long story short...(well I already blew that I think) any suggestions to help in the next 6 weeks? I should mention that in that time I will be traveling for 2 different weeks during this time frame as well...I am already nervous about that, but have been doing as much research as possible before hand so I hope that all goes ok.

Thank You in advance for any ideas you can offer, otherwise thanks for letting me vent alittle!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



sandsurfgirl Collaborator

Vent away. Doctors are so often complete morons. I had a doc try to get me to take Prozac for my thyroid symptoms instead of trying another thyroid medicine or upping my dose!!! He was like a crack dealer. "Just try it. You'll feel great. Prozac makes you feel so good. You won't regret it if you try it." To this day I want to curse when I think of that idiot.

Why don't you call back and ask them some questions about the tests? Tell them that you are very nervous hearing this and you need more info.

I googled SED rate and it says that inflammation can elevate it. Well as celiacs we have lots of inflammation from gluten.

Here's a little article about the liver enzymes. Open Original Shared Link

Get a copy of your labs and find out if they are highly elevated or just slightly.

Bobbijo6681 Apprentice

Vent away. Doctors are so often complete morons. I had a doc try to get me to take Prozac for my thyroid symptoms instead of trying another thyroid medicine or upping my dose!!! He was like a crack dealer. "Just try it. You'll feel great. Prozac makes you feel so good. You won't regret it if you try it." To this day I want to curse when I think of that idiot.

Why don't you call back and ask them some questions about the tests? Tell them that you are very nervous hearing this and you need more info.

I googled SED rate and it says that inflammation can elevate it. Well as celiacs we have lots of inflammation from gluten.

Here's a little article about the liver enzymes. Open Original Shared Link

Get a copy of your labs and find out if they are highly elevated or just slightly.

Sandsurfgirl,

Thanks for making me think a little bit....When I was first having problems my SED rate was elevated...DUH!! Ok I feel much better about that. The nurse said with the Liver tests it could be anything from medication to potential liver diseases. That is why they want to retest in 6 weeks. My biggest concern with that is that my younger cousin just passed away last year with something to do with his liver. I have my dad putting in calls to my aunt to figure out exactly what he had, as neither my dad or I know the specfics, just that he had problems with this liver. I think that is what scares me the most. Will they give me copies of my Labs? I never thought to ask, she just said that the liver fuction was elevated, do they assume that we know what that means? I often feel like I know more than they do about my health, but I don't know about all these techical terms that they use.

Thanks again for making me think...that helps me calm down a little. Thank goodness for a place like this!!!! All of my friends and family are supportive, and no one gives me a hard time about what to eat and when...but still no one gets it, they try, but they just don't understand!

Lisa Mentor

After six weeks of gluten free, my bet is that your SED levels will go down. It will help with with a low fat foods as well. But eating fresh foods and healthy snacks will do it.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

It is not uncommon for SED rate and liver panels to be a bit off when we are diagnosed. For most of us these resolve after we have been gluten free for a while and have healed. Try not to worry just follow up on it with the retesting and make sure you are checking all you need to for gluten and making the changes you need in your household.

CHARBEEGOOD Newbie

I was diagnosed in January with Celiac after both a postive blood test and endoscope biopsy. I have been very diligant about gluten for at least the last 2 weeks, but have been careful since being diagnosed. Last week I went back to see my GI and he ordered more blood work and an ultrasound of my abdomen. The nurse called yesterday and my Liver Fuction test came back abnormal as well as an elivated SED rate. They want to check both of these again in 6 weeks and then we will go from there. In the mean time I am FREAKING out??? What does all of this mean? Now what?

To add to this I am so angry with doctors that I have a hard time believing what any of them say. Last January I started this journey due to painful swelling in my feet and legs (periphal Neuropathy)after seeing my PCP he was unsure of the cause so sent me to an ortho, he didn't have a clue and sent me to a Neurologist. He knew from the second I he started asking me questions that I had a B12 deficiency. He ordered the lab work to confirm and told me to follow up with the PCP. After the results showed B12 near 150 I was scheduled to see my PCP. After reviewing all of my symptoms and problems that were going on, he proceeded to tell me that the B12 was not causing my pain, and in fact he believed that I was depressed and that depression can cause real pain. I asked multiple questions about the B12 defiency and he had no clue about it, but yet he demanded that taking a B12 supplement would not help. How do you know that? He wanted to prescribe anti depressants and I refused to take the prescription. NOW I find out that the defiencey was probably caused due to the Celiac disease, and that the B12 defiency can cause the "depression" symptoms that he wanted to treat. I am not a depressed person, but at the time I was in so much pain, I rarely left the house except to go to work, I couldn't sleep because of the pain, and I rarely ate. Although those are all signs of depression, they were caused because I was in pain, not because I was depressed. I changed doctors after I was treated so poorly by this one, and although my current PCP is much more attentive, I still feel that I know more about what I am dealing with than they do.

Well to make a long story short...(well I already blew that I think) any suggestions to help in the next 6 weeks? I should mention that in that time I will be traveling for 2 different weeks during this time frame as well...I am already nervous about that, but have been doing as much research as possible before hand so I hope that all goes ok.

Thank You in advance for any ideas you can offer, otherwise thanks for letting me vent alittle!!

WOW...some of your story sounds like mine. Don't you just hate it when they say "depression" let me give you something for that! My PCP sent me to a Neurologist who's first words were..."your just depressed". I refused the drugs and demanded the test-my B12 was 189 so I know exactly what you mean about exhaustion, pain and no desire to eat. My Neurologist sent me to another specialist because he was to make sure that he has covered all the basis. (Personal I think he was hoping to be told I was depressed) I already go told this was not so..

Keep us posted. Remember there are always people to talk to.

Reba32 Rookie

Do you live in the US? Do you eat a lot of processed foods? If yes to both, watch your ingredients labels for high fructose corn syrup. It is processed by the liver, and converts and stores as fat. If your liver function is reduced because of Celiac (which is possible), then feeding it HFCS certainly won't help it!

I serioulsy think that stuff should be banned.

I hope they explain the labs to you. I hate it when they think we know what they're talking about. :P


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Bobbijo6681 Apprentice

Do you live in the US? Do you eat a lot of processed foods? If yes to both, watch your ingredients labels for high fructose corn syrup. It is processed by the liver, and converts and stores as fat. If your liver function is reduced because of Celiac (which is possible), then feeding it HFCS certainly won't help it!

I serioulsy think that stuff should be banned.

I hope they explain the labs to you. I hate it when they think we know what they're talking about. :P

Yes I live in the US, and I have been trying my best to stay away from processed foods. I know that those are harder to control for gluten so I am trying to make everything myself, from scratch, or eating natural foods. I do drink pepsi though and I know that has HFCS. I will try to switch over to that Pepsi Throwback though that has natural sugar instead of HFCS, because I am not ready to give up my pepsi yet. I had given it up for a while before being diagnosed Celiac, but decided after diagnosis that I wasn't giving up everything at the same time. I figure that the gluten is the most important thing to eliminate right now and will work on the pepsi after I get the gluten diet under control.

Thanks for all of the thoughts everyone!!

newgfcali Rookie

I do drink pepsi though and I know that has HFCS. I will try to switch over to that Pepsi Throwback though that has natural sugar instead of HFCS, because I am not ready to give up my pepsi yet. I had given it up for a while before being diagnosed Celiac, but decided after diagnosis that I wasn't giving up everything at the same time. I figure that the gluten is the most important thing to eliminate right now and will work on the pepsi after I get the gluten diet under control.

Thanks for all of the thoughts everyone!!

Bobbi... when you're ready to give up the Pepsi, try going to seltzer water. I had to give up diet pepsi because of the sweetner (that's another story) and I just don't like "plain water". But the bubbles in seltzer water are just like a soda, so for me it satisfied that need for bubbles to feel quenched. Give it a try. There's also club soda, but that has added sodium which we don't need.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Bobbi... when you're ready to give up the Pepsi, try going to seltzer water. I had to give up diet pepsi because of the sweetner (that's another story) and I just don't like "plain water". But the bubbles in seltzer water are just like a soda, so for me it satisfied that need for bubbles to feel quenched. Give it a try. There's also club soda, but that has added sodium which we don't need.

Good idea. I often mix plain or lightly flavored unsweetened seltzer water with a bit of freah orange juice or another bottled one. Tasty and no or low sugar.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,901
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    tessycork47
    Newest Member
    tessycork47
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Judy M! Yes, he definitely needs to continue eating gluten until the day of the endoscopy. Not sure why the GI doc advised otherwise but it was a bum steer.  Celiac disease has a genetic component but also an "epigenetic" component. Let me explain. There are two main genes that have been identified as providing the "potential" to develop "active" celiac disease. We know them as HLA-DQ 2.5 (aka, HLA-DQ 2) and HLA-DQ8. Without one or both of these genes it is highly unlikely that a person will develop celiac disease at some point in their life. About 40% of the general population carry one or both of these two genes but only about 1% of the population develops active celiac disease. Thus, possessing the genetic potential for celiac disease is far less than deterministic. Most who have the potential never develop the disease. In order for the potential to develop celiac disease to turn into active celiac disease, some triggering stress event or events must "turn on" the latent genes. This triggering stress event can be a viral infection, some other medical event, or even prolonged psychological/emotional trauma. This part of the equation is difficult to quantify but this is the epigenetic dimension of the disease. Epigenetics has to do with the influence that environmental factors and things not coded into the DNA itself have to do in "turning on" susceptible genes. And this is why celiac disease can develop at any stage of life. Celiac disease is an autoimmune condition (not a food allergy) that causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel. The ingestion of gluten causes the body to attack the cells of this lining which, over time, damages and destroys them, impairing the body's ability to absorb nutrients since this is the part of the intestinal track responsible for nutrient absorption and also causing numerous other food sensitivities such as dairy/lactose intolerance. There is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just, "gluten sensitivity") that is not autoimmune in nature and which does not damage the small bowel lining. However, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease such as gas, bloating, and diarrhea. It is also much more common than celiac disease. There is no test for NCGS so, because they share common symptoms, celiac disease must first be ruled out through formal testing for celiac disease. This is where your husband is right now. It should also be said that some experts believe NCGS can transition into celiac disease. I hope this helps.
    • Judy M
      My husband has had lactose intolerance for his entire life (he's 68 yo).  So, he's used to gastro issues. But for the past year he's been experiencing bouts of diarrhea that last for hours.  He finally went to his gastroenterologist ... several blood tests ruled out other maladies, but his celiac results are suspect.  He is scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in 2 weeks.  He was told to eat "gluten free" until the tests!!!  I, and he know nothing about this "diet" much less how to navigate his in daily life!! The more I read, the more my head is spinning.  So I guess I have 2 questions.  First, I read on this website that prior to testing, eat gluten so as not to compromise the testing!  Is that true? His primary care doctor told him to eat gluten free prior to testing!  I'm so confused.  Second, I read that celiac disease is genetic or caused by other ways such as surgery.  No family history but Gall bladder removal 7 years ago, maybe?  But how in God's name does something like this crop up and now is so awful he can't go a day without worrying.  He still works in Manhattan and considers himself lucky if he gets there without incident!  Advice from those who know would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Scott Adams
      You've done an excellent job of meticulously tracking the rash's unpredictable behavior, from its symmetrical spread and stubborn scabbing to the potential triggers you've identified, like the asthma medication and dietary changes. It's particularly telling that the rash seems to flare with wheat consumption, even though your initial blood test was negative—as you've noted, being off wheat before a test can sometimes lead to a false negative, and your description of the other symptoms—joint pain, brain fog, stomach issues—is very compelling. The symmetry of the rash is a crucial detail that often points toward an internal cause, such as an autoimmune response or a systemic reaction, rather than just an external irritant like a plant or mites. I hope your doctor tomorrow takes the time to listen carefully to all of this evidence you've gathered and works with you to find some real answers and effective relief. Don't be discouraged if the rash fluctuates; your detailed history is the most valuable tool you have for getting an accurate diagnosis.
    • Scott Adams
      In this case the beer is excellent, but for those who are super sensitive it is likely better to go the full gluten-free beer route. Lakefront Brewery (another sponsor!) has good gluten-free beer made without any gluten ingredients.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @catsrlife! Celiac disease can be diagnosed without committing to a full-blown "gluten challenge" if you get a skin biopsy done during an active outbreak of dermatitis herpetiformis, assuming that is what is causing the rash. There is no other known cause for dermatitis herpetiformis so it is definitive for celiac disease. You would need to find a dermatologist who is familiar with doing the biopsy correctly, however. The samples need to be taken next to the pustules, not on them . . . a mistake many dermatologists make when biopsying for dermatitis herpetiformis. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.