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sahm-i-am Apprentice

I found this article and was wondering what your thoughts were?

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Plenty of opinion presented as fact.

There is information allegedly from a single small study done in 1978. But I can't get to the actual study. Have there been other studies which showed different results? The author would cite them as well if the article was intended to be objective. Instead, it seems to advance an anti-corn agenda.

I'm unconvinced. Your mileage may vary.

And yes, I am aware that some people with celiac disease are also intolerant to other foods. But that doesn't mean that "No celiac should ever eat (insert soy/dairy/corn/name-a-food here)!"

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My response on the website after reading the entire article. I imagine it will be deleted by the moderators on that page, as Dr. Osborne seems to have an moneymaking agenda, but at least I can post it here. The authors of the study do NOT conclude corn is dangerous for celiacs as they could not get a response in their cellular leucocyte migration assay.

"Dr. Osborne, you have made sweeping conclusions from what is essentially an inconclusive study that was never repeated. There are multiple published gluten challenge studies where celiacs eating corn on a gluten-free diet have no mucosal damage on biopsy and no elevation of antibodies. As with oats, it is not reasonable to assume that all celiacs react adversely to corn and people should not be encouraged to limit their diets beyond what is necessary for good health. Also, please consider that some of the corn reactions are to the allergenic bacterial proteins introduced by genetic modification."

chasbari Apprentice

I love the rational sanity here... as well as the well informed scholarly approach. I personally cannot tolerate corn products at this time but can only handle a small number of foods because the damage was so severe after a lifetime of gluten exposure. I wouldn't extrapolate my conditions and necessary treatment to all people though. I know it is hard to separate the emotional reaction to how changing a diet has helped begin to heal many of us and yet we still need to maintain a sense of rational logic. Thanks for doing that.

Skylark Collaborator

Sorry to hear your diet is so limited. Corn is a little allergenic and GMO corn is a nightmare. You might try some organic, non-GMO corn once your body starts to heal and see if you tolerate it better. I know corn makes some people sick and I don't want to belittle anyone's food reactions! I just think that saying "all celiacs shouldn't eat corn" is unfounded. We have to listen to our bodies.

jerseyangel Proficient

I was sensitive to corn after going gluten-free, but after avoiding it for a couple of years I can tolerate it just fine.

cassP Contributor

i read that the other day too. i follow them on twitter and always read their stuff with a healthy combo of openmindedness & skepticism.

imho- i think some people with Celiac or Gluten Intolerance may have similar reactions to Corn as they do with regular Gluten... and others may be perfectly fine and have no reactions.. i think we just have to listen to our bodies- i believe it's possible there hasnt been enough research on it to prove it or negate it yet..

i have similar reactions to corn as i do to gluten but nowhere near as severe. however when it comes to HFCS, or High Maltose Corn Syrup, or Dextrose-> my reaction is pretty bad- my stomach starts throbbing, and i'll get BEET RED & HOT over my face, neck, forearms, and around my navel (right over my DH rash).

yet- there are plenty of gluten free people that are totally fine with corn... there's a lot of gluten-free recipe bloggers that are always cooking yummy stuff with it- and are fine.

im planning to go "mostly" corn free after thanksgiving.. but i guess i'll just have to accept the corn byproducts in my meds, and gum :(


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