Leaky Gut Diet

[Salax]

Hi Guys,

I am begining to suspect I have Leaky Gut. And I am trying to find accurate resources on diet information for this. Does any one have any really good sources on Leaky Gut and the Diet? Any personal experiences with De-toxing or not? I was thinking about going Paleo anyways, but I am not sure on the fruit side of things and the whole discussion on Quinoa and Rice, do I eat them or not. I like them, they seem ok for me...but not sure where to begin.

Thanks much!

[laura4669]

  On 1/25/2011 at 7:05 PM, Salax said:

Hi Guys,

I am begining to suspect I have Leaky Gut. And I am trying to find accurate resources on diet information for this. Does any one have any really good sources on Leaky Gut and the Diet? Any personal experiences with De-toxing or not? I was thinking about going Paleo anyways, but I am not sure on the fruit side of things and the whole discussion on Quinoa and Rice, do I eat them or not. I like them, they seem ok for me...but not sure where to begin.

Thanks much!

Hi,

I am in the same boat. I have been gluten-free since last October, but I am sure I have food intolerances. Tried to do elimination diet twice, but I just can't stick to it! I am strongly considering going Paleo, but a "modified" version. I ate Paleo for several days last week, but was starving without a small amount of rice or white potatoes. Been looking at Robb Wolf's web site, and it is very informative on the Paleo lifestyle. Best of luck to you!

[cahill]

I am watching this thread in hopes of getting some ideas/information.

I am currently doing an elimination diet,,, and the way things are looking I am going to be pretty much eating Paleo wither I want to or not

[mushroom]

You may find this article on leaky gut syndrome helpful: Open Original Shared Link

[LivesIntheSun]

Me too :-(

As if being gluen-free wasn't enough hard work I need to heal my gut and I'm fed up, especially because I have to study it and do it all by myself, I feel like I'm climbing a mountain.

If anyone wants to study the issue or work together PM me.

[Salax]

Thanks for the responses guys. I guess this is my next adventure challenge.

[Jestgar]

  On 1/26/2011 at 4:14 PM, Salax said:

Thanks for the responses guys. I guess this is my next adventure challenge.

Why don't you choose skydiving, or something less challenging next time.......

[missy'smom]

  On 1/26/2011 at 2:32 PM, LivesIntheSun said:

As if being gluen-free wasn't enough hard work I need to heal my gut... especially because I have to study it and do it all by myself, I feel like I'm climbing a mountain.

AMEN! I'm with you on that!

I've been on this elimination/challenge diet with a list of food allergies I tested pos. to for one year now. Got some back but gained new allergies in the process and lost some. It's a revolving door, although the gains outweigh the losses,...I think. I'm going to give it one more year with the new allergies and trying to ditch some of the repeat offenders for a longer time period and see if I can ditch them. Then I may have to come up with a new plan. I'm SO tired of thinking about EVERY thing I put in my mouth EVERY meal, EVERY day. I do feel so much better still overall so not complaining about my symptoms anymore, but it's just hard work as you said and too many restrictions.

[missy'smom]

  On 1/26/2011 at 4:24 PM, Jestgar said:

Why don't you choose skydiving, or something less challenging next time.......

LOL! Skydiving would actually be easier!, even for those of us who are afraid of heights!

[cahill]

  On 1/26/2011 at 4:46 PM, missy said:

LOL! Skydiving would actually be easier!, even for those of us who are afraid of heights!

I agree Skydiving would be easier!!!

[cahill]

  On 1/26/2011 at 4:44 PM, missy said:

I'm SO tired of thinking about EVERY thing I put in my mouth EVERY meal, EVERY day. I do feel so much better still overall so not complaining about my symptoms anymore, but it's just hard work as you said and too many restrictions.

I am right there with you

[mushroom]

  On 1/26/2011 at 8:14 PM, a1956chill said:

I agree Skydiving would be easier!!!

And a lot more thrilling

[Salax]

  On 1/26/2011 at 4:24 PM, Jestgar said:

Why don't you choose skydiving, or something less challenging next time.......

I know right. Except I hate heights LOL, so no. Hehe.

[Mother of a Celiac]

  On 1/25/2011 at 7:38 PM, laura4669 said:

Hi,

I am in the same boat. I have been gluten-free since last October, but I am sure I have food intolerances. Tried to do elimination diet twice, but I just can't stick to it! I am strongly considering going Paleo, but a "modified" version. I ate Paleo for several days last week, but was starving without a small amount of rice or white potatoes. Been looking at Robb Wolf's web site, and it is very informative on the Paleo lifestyle. Best of luck to you!

I am halfway thru the Paleo Solution book by Robb Wolf. It is one of the most eye opening books I've ever read. I started reading it because my daughter has Celiac and her symptoms have returned after being gluten free and symptom free for a year. Our whole family is now going Paleo. It is hard and is taking some time to get used to, but I'm hoping it is the answer to healing.

[eatmeat4good]

I wanna do Paleo, but I wanna keep chocolate too.

[GottaSki]

Hi All-

Bumping this back to the top as I have just started full elimination diet. I was dx'd Celiac in March 2009 - was very slow to get better, but did finally improve a great deal - felt healthy for the first time in years!

Unfortunately good health only lasted about 8 months - my digestive symptoms stayed at bay for a long time with mainly fibromyalgia symptoms worsening. Over the past six months I have become very sick again - muscle/joint pain, foggy is an understatement - my brain has been mush - severe memory problems and more. During the past few months my digestive symptoms have gotten nearly as bad as they were when I was dx'd Celiac and that was pretty darn bad.

Research finally brought me to Lectin Intolerance & Leaky Gut Syndrome (which I had heard before, but I thought it was just other names for Celiac).

In the past I've tried removing nightshades and dairy, but not all the problem lectin groups at once.

I just finished two days of green smoothie detox. Today was day three - I woke up still sluggish, but a couple hours later I felt wired (like I'd had several cups of coffee). Was able to stay vertical the majority of the day and my brain is still fairly clear at 10PM!!! As of today I'm eating meat/vegies/fruit only. In a week or a month (depending on improvement) I'll start challenging each group: eggs, nightshades, nuts, dairy and grains (really hope I get rice, corn and quinoa back).

Guess I'm curious to hear from others that:

1) isolated their Lectin Intolerance with elimination diet - which groups of foods you lost or re-gained?

2) had significant healing - how long did it take?

Thanks!

[mushroom]

I am a major lectin intolerant. I am glad that I tolerate dairy lectins, because I do not tolerate corn, soy, legumes. nightshades, citrus and of course gluten. I don't believe I will ever regain soy or corn, but I have recently been eating occasional slices of Udi's bread (potato starch) without any problems, so I am going to continue testing potato. After quitting gluten I acquired lectin intolerance to nightshades, legumes and citrus. and also had problems with quinoa and amaranth during my leaky gut syndrome period. I must say I was a little slow in making the lectin connection but I fit the pattern so perfectly. The nightshades came first so they were the first ones for reintroduction testing, but I am doing it REAL slow - don't want to slip back again and still not confident about leaky gut 100%.

I am almost four years post gluten, but only made a determined leaky gut cure effort a year ago when I continued to come up with more lectin intolerances. Up till then I was still using digestive enzymes quite consistently. I consulted with a nutritionist (Krispin Sullivan - I am sure you have read her Lectin Report) last summer and followed her supplement recommendations and believe it has helped. All the other commercial breads are so awful and I had so wanted to try Udi's and have been limiting it to every 3-4 days. Next I will try it more frequently.

[Bubba's Mom]

I asked my GI Dr about leaky gut after seeing it mentioned here. She had never heard of it!

I read the article that was posted and it seems like so many things would be eliminated..I'm wondering what we COULD eat?

I wish there was a treatment center we could just go to where they'd give us our meals and and suppliments and we'd focus on doing nothing but healing!

[mushroom]

I found that it was the things I was eating too frequently that became a problem for me. A rotational diet where you don't keep eating the same things over and over seems to work best with a leaky gut.

[GottaSki]

Mushroom-

Thank you so much for sharing - it is very encouraging to hear that you have been able to add a few things back carefully after a year.

Today - Day 4 - I feel like I'm coming out of a year long sleepwalk! I rode my bike and cleaned my kitchen - can't tell you how bad our house got over the past several months. Trying not to get too excited, but I am VERY hopeful for the first time in a very long time.

Yes, I've read Krispin's report - I'll include the link along with another that I found helpful for others reading this entry:

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Bubba's Mom-

I'm eating meat, fruit and vegies now and will for about a month depending on improvement before I challenge each lectin group: nightshades, nuts, dairy and grains. It has been easy for the past several days, especially because I'm already seeing improvement - I'm sure I'll have a panic attack soon without rice and quinoa! As long as I improve it will be worth it as for the past several months I've had no life (about an hour in the morning functional) and had major symptoms for the past year.

Doctors can be extremely frustrating (no words to say how frustrating) with our symptoms. I've had mild versions of my Celiac and Fibromyalgia symptoms since my early 20s - took 23 years of going to docs for the same symptoms before they found Celiac - by that time I had only about 5-6 functional hours per day with severe digestive problems along with a whole host of other problems...the only thing that was "normal" about me was my bloodwork for every flipping thyroid and autoimmune disease - except celiac of course. It does seem that western medicine is starting to come around to some links between food and autoimmune disease - yet it has a very, very long way to go and such a shame that so many of us have been suffering for so long with no where to turn for help.

At least there is this forum!

[Bubba's Mom]

I think we had the holy grail of bad ingredients for supper last night? It was chile with kidney beans, tomatoes, bell pepper, over pasta which was corn/rice based. Hubby put cheese on his.

I noticed I burped it up, which I haven't been doing with other foods lately.

I'm going to do some experimenting.

[GottaSki]

  On 8/14/2011 at 2:26 PM, Bubba said:

I think we had the holy grail of bad ingredients for supper last night? It was chile with kidney beans, tomatoes, bell pepper, over pasta which was corn/rice based. Hubby put cheese on his.

I noticed I burped it up, which I haven't been doing with other foods lately.

I'm going to do some experimenting.

I used to love Chili - until I went gluten-free and it caused stomach upset - guess my gut was trying to tell me something about other lectins - my brain just took a bit longer to figure it out!

This diet is extreme, but I woke up this morning (day 5) ready to get out bed and start doing things for the first time in over a year!

[mushroom]

  On 8/13/2011 at 8:45 PM, GottaSki said:

. It does seem that western medicine is starting to come around to some links between food and autoimmune disease - yet it has a very, very long way to go and such a shame that so many of us have been suffering for so long with no where to turn for help.

At least there is this forum!

I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that. I still get this chilly look like "You must be whacko" if I have the temerity to mention lectin intolerance to someone with M.D. after their name (with only one exception so far and she is my cardiologist).

  On 8/14/2011 at 2:26 PM, Bubba said:

I think we had the holy grail of bad ingredients for supper last night? It was chile with kidney beans, tomatoes, bell pepper, over pasta which was corn/rice based.

Sounds like the meal from h*ll - all those spices, legumes and nightshades

  On 8/14/2011 at 2:30 PM, GottaSki said:

I used to love Chili - until I went gluten-free and it caused stomach upset - guess my gut was trying to tell me something about other lectins - my brain just took a bit longer to figure it out!

This diet is extreme, but I woke up this morning (day 5) ready to get out bed and start doing things for the first time in over a year!

Way to go, GottaSki. Either legumes or nightshades gotcha . I used to love chili over a baked potato!!!

[GottaSki]

  On 8/14/2011 at 3:13 PM, mushroom said:

I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that. I still get this chilly look like "You must be whacko" if I have the temerity to mention lectin intolerance to someone with M.D. after their name (with only one exception so far and she is my cardiologist).

You are absolutely right - I've had the there is nothing physically wrong with you, so it must be mental look from doctors so many times over the years I don't think I count them. I think my thought this morning was more along the lines of docs starting (and I mean only starting) to understand that celiac isn't just a childhood illness anymore

[mushroom]

  On 8/14/2011 at 8:20 PM, GottaSki said:

I think my thought this morning was more along the lines of docs starting (and I mean only starting) to understand that celiac isn't just a childhood illness anymore

Well, you're right of course -- we can't expect strides, only baby steps. And they don't have as much invested in the issue as we do