Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Dh And Thyroid Medication


Carol from NYC

Recommended Posts

Carol from NYC Newbie

I've been strictly avoiding iodine for the last two weeks and my DH has waned -- but only a little. The problem is -- I do have Hashimoto's disease and need to take thyroid hormone every morning. Apparently, all thyroid medications have substantial amounts of iodine. I've read that Armour Thyroid, the natural dessicated hormone, contains 1/5 the daily required amt. of iodine per 60 m dose. Since I take 240 m, I'm getting 4/5 of my iodine before I even eat anything. How can I possibly reduce iodine if I have to take my thyroid medication every morning? Is anyone else dealing with this issue? Does Synthroid contain much less iodine? (I'd rather stick with Armour if I can since I felt soooooo exhausted on Synthroid.)

My doctor, who's great, doesn't know anything about the DH/iodine connection, so I'm looking forward to hearing about your experiences.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



itchy Rookie

Carol, your DH will go away eventually even if you continue to take in iodine, providing you reduce your gluten intake enough.

I think results vary. I have never been able to detect any effect of iodine, though admittedly I didn't try removing iodine from my diet until after the lesions were getting very much better.

If one can tolerate the DH symptoms while one heals and learns the diet, one can avoid dealing with the iodine issue altogether.

cassP Contributor

ya, i really am at a loss as to exactly what we should be doing in this Iodine conundrum... the thyroid needs the iodine.. the iodine pisses off the DH.. excess iodine can aggravate Grave's and maybe Hashimoto's... its confusing.

all i can offer is my experience.. i had a few DH bumps on my R forearm that went away even before i went gluten free. then after i went gluten-free- i had a small patch on my stomach that took 4 months to go away. then i was dx & started Synthroid. then Synthroid & Cytomel.

in the few months i was on Synthroid... and later added Cytomel: both my forearms erupted into a RED HOT burning bumpy mess... didnt itch, just bumpy & hot, each eruption only lasted like a day or two. this happened 3 or 4 times. (when i have some "gluten free <20ppm" snacks- my forearms sometimes itch a little).

anyways, i am now on Armour (60mg), and have not had an incident on my forearms. and my stomach patch has never come back.

i eat seafood, and take plenty of supplements with Fucus Bladderwrack Kelp.

last month however, i DID take a liquid iodine supplement- thinking it would help my thyroid- a few bumps reappeared on my forearm, and the iodine aggravated my grave's so i quit.

maybe it has to do with the form of iodine we get- and how much in excess we get.

?? good luck.. its confusing, ya

rosetapper23 Explorer

Yes, this is quite a conundrum. I was off iodine for 15 years because I put two and two together that iodine was causing the blisters (I didn't realize it was celiac). However, three years after going gluten free, I developed Hashimoto's and had to begin taking Armour Thyroid. Because I don't eat gluten, I don't get DH blisters anymore (unless I accidentally get glutened, and then I break out big time since iodine is always present in my body). However, I have a chronic, itchy rash as a result of the iodine that is permanently across my upper back, and nothing works to relieve it. It's as though I'm actually allergic to iodine in addition to having celiac and DH. Also, if I eat something that's high in iodine, I have an immediate asthma attack.

It's so sad that people can be "allergic" to a a nutrient that is required for good health--seems senseless.

maryanno Newbie

I was diagnosed with celiac disease 3 years ago, Have Hyperthyroidism (I take Synthroid), Cirrhosis of the Liver and Pulmonary Hypertension. I've had dry skin as long as I can remember and have also used lotion daily with Vitamin E in it. Since the first of the year, I noticed my arms have been more dry than usual, and about 2 weeks ago I started breaking out in this horrible rash on my arms, stomach and back. I finally went to a Dermatologist who did 2 biopsies on my left arm which had been oozing yellow junk. So now I'm waiting for those results, but was told that it looks like DH. I have been very strict eating gluten free for 3 years and have no idea what brought this on after being gluten-free so long. I am taking Keflex for 10 days to clear up the infection where I scratched and scratched, and am using a prescription ointment. Any thoughts????

itchy Rookie

Maryanno: I really sympathise with people dealing with multiple medical issues. It must get incredibly complicated. I find DH and celiac to be very confusing, and I only have one issue to deal with.

I have been learning to reduce my gluten intake for fifteen years. I have passed several plateaus, each time after realising that I am even more sensitive to gluten than I thought and having to learn to be even more strict. Is it possible that you are still getting too much gluten?

As far as 'yellow junk' goes, I'm not sure that this is a typical DH symptom, though symptoms are so variable I would hesitate to suggest that it isn't.

Carol from NYC Newbie

I was diagnosed with celiac disease 3 years ago, Have Hyperthyroidism (I take Synthroid), Cirrhosis of the Liver and Pulmonary Hypertension. I've had dry skin as long as I can remember and have also used lotion daily with Vitamin E in it. Since the first of the year, I noticed my arms have been more dry than usual, and about 2 weeks ago I started breaking out in this horrible rash on my arms, stomach and back. I finally went to a Dermatologist who did 2 biopsies on my left arm which had been oozing yellow junk. So now I'm waiting for those results, but was told that it looks like DH. I have been very strict eating gluten free for 3 years and have no idea what brought this on after being gluten-free so long. I am taking Keflex for 10 days to clear up the infection where I scratched and scratched, and am using a prescription ointment. Any thoughts????

Are you sure the Vitamin E lotion doesn't have gluten? Sometimes Vitamin E is wheat germ oil.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,032
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    LynnH
    Newest Member
    LynnH
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.