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Sharlie2455

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Sharlie2455 Newbie

Hey all!

I was just wondering if anyone else's allergies coincide with a vaccination?

My allergies developed shortly after a trip to Thailand for which I was required to take 3 shots for hepatitis prevention.

I have been eating gluten free to manage a rash and digestive issues that developed shortly after the trip over 2 years ago, but still can't seem to get it 100% under control. Always assumed that I must some how mistakenly be getting glutened. Just found that vaccinations can cause allergies and was looking for patent info on the vaccine and it looks like they use yeast in the shot. Now I am thinking I may be reacting to the yeast in the gluten free foods.

I am 26 and experienced 23 completely allergy free years of life so I would really like to find out what caused this!


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ravenwoodglass Mentor

Have you been evaluated to see if you might have picked up any bacterial or parasitic infection or something else while you were there? If your doctor hasn't explored this possibility with blood work and stool testing you should ask the doc to do so.

Sharlie2455 Newbie

Have you been evaluated to see if you might have picked up any bacterial or parasitic infection or something else while you were there? If your doctor hasn't explored this possibility with blood work and stool testing you should ask the doc to do so.

Was checked for parasites. I have a "gluten sensitivity". On top of my own regular doctor I've seen a dermatologist and an allergy specialist, each of which gave me 2 prescriptions for a total of SIX!!! Just to treat symptoms, no one seems to wonder WHY I would suddenly develop this. :S

I read recently that immunizations for children could be causing autoimmune disorders later in life. "Have we traded measles and mumps for leukemia, cancer, multiple sclerosis and allergies?" Stuff about peanut allergies developing because peanut oil is used as a base in vaccines. In Israel no one has peanut allergies, they have actually developed sesame allergies instead because they use sesame oil as a base there.... Apparently yeast is used in the hepatitis vaccine so I'm thinking I could have developed yeast allergy/intolerance as well because of this which is why I still get symptoms sometimes regardless of eating gluten free as I do eat gluten free breads.

beebs Enthusiast

To be honest I'd look far farther afield, pestsides, pollution, GM, the whole shebang, we are eating stuff that isn't natural etc etc. There is so much that could be going on with all this autoimmune stuff!

beebs Enthusiast

PS = not saying its not vaccines- at all, but personally I think its our whole western way of life if you know what I mean!

RiceGuy Collaborator

From what I've read, all vaccines are made using chicken eggs, and those sensitive to eggs can have all sorts of bad reactions to them. Not to mention that vaccines also often include mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, and a number of other questionable things.

But if your allergies involve the immune system (and I'm not sure if they ever wouldn't), it might be tough to "turn it off". Just as the auto-immune reactions to gluten apparently never go away, in that once you're Celiac, gluten will for ever be an offender.

Not saying there isn't any hope though, and I do hope you find the answer.

Anyway, what others have said about picking up something on your trip does make sense to me as well. Just not sure what that could be. A tick bite maybe? Is there Lyme disease in Thailand? That's something which most doctors in the US aren't particularly knowledgeable about. Not sure about elsewhere.

Sharlie2455 Newbie

From what I've read, all vaccines are made using chicken eggs, and those sensitive to eggs can have all sorts of bad reactions to them. Not to mention that vaccines also often include mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, and a number of other questionable things.

But if your allergies involve the immune system (and I'm not sure if they ever wouldn't), it might be tough to "turn it off". Just as the auto-immune reactions to gluten apparently never go away, in that once you're Celiac, gluten will for ever be an offender.

Not saying there isn't any hope though, and I do hope you find the answer.

Anyway, what others have said about picking up something on your trip does make sense to me as well. Just not sure what that could be. A tick bite maybe? Is there Lyme disease in Thailand? That's something which most doctors in the US aren't particularly knowledgeable about. Not sure about elsewhere.

Well I was in Thailand for a month, and their food is a LOT more fresh and healthy than ours. And when I came back I was under a lot of pressure and stress and pretty much lived off of Burger King and A&W. Maybe I just crashed the system. :S

Don't think it's lyme disease as I don't have the bullseye rash, but there are 70 some other symptoms and I could match up with some of them! LoL! Geez.


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Adalaide Mentor

Don't discount Lyme on account of not noticing a rash. My grandmother never noticed a bullseye rash but sure enough after months of suffering so bad she couldn't care for herself let alone her husband a blood test came back positive. A few courses of antibiotics and her symptoms cleared right up. Not everyone gets the bullseye rash and it wouldn't be noticed on your scalp. It's something you might have to push really hard to be tested for but hopefully you have a good relationship with your doctor and they'll take your concerns seriously.

mushroom Proficient

According to Wiki, lyme is present in Thailand:

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B. burgdorferi sensu lato-infested

You really need a LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor) if you in fact are dealing with lyme disease because most GP's know very little about it (kind of like celiac :P )

Oscar Apprentice

Hmmm. Vaccines. Evil?

Smallpox was deadly. It has been eradicated worldwide. How? Vaccines.

Polio used to cripple many young people. It no longer does. Why? Vaccines.

Rubella (German Measles) used to cause birth defects when pregnant women were infected. No more. Why? Vaccinations.

Mumps used to be a common childhood disease, but caused serious reproductive issues in males after puberty. It is no longer an issue, due to effective vaccinations.

Measles? The jury is still out on the long-term impact, but incidence is way down. How come? Vaccination.

Harrumph. Vaccinate me.

beebs Enthusiast

Is it allergies you have or celiac? Or an intolerance?

mushroom Proficient

Just a thought -- have you had a follow-up blood test/endoscopy to check for dietary compliance? I.e., whether or not hidden gluten is getting in somehow?

  • 2 months later...
dramamama Newbie

I need to have vaccinations before going on a humanitarian trip to Kenya. I am Celiac -- and so got on here to see if there was any info regarding gluten being IN vaccinations. Does anyone know? I don't have a doctor I feel like actually 'gets' Celiac Disease -- often feel I'm on my own. Look forward to the day I have a doctor that does! Thanks for any info. This is what I'll need:

Yellow fever

Hepatitis A

Typhoid

Hepatitis B (series of 3 injections

psawyer Proficient

I am not aware of any injectable substance that contains gluten. That includes every vaccine commonly in current use. Gluten acts as a thickener, and that is definitely not something you want in an injectable substance.

The Sabin oral polio vaccine is gluten-free, but is less commonly used than the Salk injectable one.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I need to have vaccinations before going on a humanitarian trip to Kenya. I am Celiac -- and so got on here to see if there was any info regarding gluten being IN vaccinations. Does anyone know? I don't have a doctor I feel like actually 'gets' Celiac Disease -- often feel I'm on my own. Look forward to the day I have a doctor that does! Thanks for any info. This is what I'll need:

Yellow fever

Hepatitis A

Typhoid

Hepatitis B (series of 3 injections

StephanieL Enthusiast

Allergies are genetic. There is no indication anywhere in reliable medical journals that vaccines have anything to do with allergy development. Antidotally, I am and know many parents who don't vax who have children with allergies.

I am (third, fourth, sixth ing) that you may have picked something up on your trip.

Hope you get something figured out.

lovegrov Collaborator

Injectables do NOT contain gluten.

richard

Victoria6102 Contributor

I need to have vaccinations before going on a humanitarian trip to Kenya. I am Celiac -- and so got on here to see if there was any info regarding gluten being IN vaccinations. Does anyone know? I don't have a doctor I feel like actually 'gets' Celiac Disease -- often feel I'm on my own. Look forward to the day I have a doctor that does! Thanks for any info. This is what I'll need:

Yellow fever

Hepatitis A

Typhoid

Hepatitis B (series of 3 injections

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