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To Sals, Or Not To Sals!

dani nero

By dani nero
in Dermatitis Herpetiformis

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I posted this thread here because my DH is the most prominent side effect that I get from consuming too large amounts of salicylates!

I'm experiencing some changes regarding my sals sensitivity, so I was wondering (for those who also react to sals) if they've experienced the same thing!

I've noticed that I can handle a bigger amount of foods that are high on sals, such as cherry tomatoes. I even tried to test this by eating frozen mangoes, frozen berries, and even a few fresh blue berries (which I'm immensely enjoying by the way) and I'm so far almost getting away with it!

I was feeling particularly greedy the past three days, cheating on my diet with unlimited cherry tomatoes frozen mangoes, and berries (most of them were frozen but I did also have a few fresh blue berries), and I'm not sure what's going on, but I haven't been getting any new blisters. My rash -does- get a little dry, and it burned a little two nights ago, but that was it. I tried pushing it again yesterday by spoiling myself, and I'm ok so far. I'm not getting bad DH reactions, and my throat and nose are not hurting either!

Could it be that I'm getting over the sals sensitivity? Is that possible?

Could this be due to the fact that sals sensitivity occurs when enough sals have accumulated in the body until they start causing reactions.. So going off them for a while means that the body can start handling them again, until another overdose occurs?

Or could frozen fruits contain less sals than fresh ones?

I don't know what this is.. but I'm very happy and thankful that it's happening!

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It's not just that, but even the sugar in these fruits have not been bothering me. I've not been getting anxious or bloated from the sugar.

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I'm delighted to hear this but would give a word of caution Dani. Sals ARE cumulative. So take it slow & easy. Don't push the limits too hard.

That was my problem with sals in the first place. I was eating everything sal! I was doing fine too. And then one day --- BOOM! Sal overdose b/c of the accumulation.

I went low sal & was doing good again. I was able to add a few sals back into the equation. Fine. Then I pulled a muscle in my flank --- it's either that or the neuro --- toooooo excruciating --- no way not to take meds for it. I chose Tylenol b/c it seems to be less aggravating than Naproxyn. But I had to take a lot of Tylenol throughout the day for 4 days. Then it caught up with me. Sals overload again. So, the sals are getting out of my system again & my rash is getting better.

Just be cautious & don't od.

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It could be that the longer you're off gluten the more you can take. Thats what happened with me. In the beginning certain sals set me off horribly - colorings, MSG, just odd things - coconut to a degree. Too many almonds.... Then, after a while, after my rash healed I was ok with most sals.

I have noticed I can't get them ON my rash - I was using almond oil/Shea butter salve on the spot on my hand and thought it was ok. Nope. I finally figured out it was making it worse, switched to Vanicream and it's finally healing. I also can't get fruit or vegetables on the rash or it triggers a new outbreak. Thus, the kitchen gloves.

Iodine was worse for me. I was much more sensitive to iodine with my DH. Still am. I can eat sushi and get a dry red spot immediately.

As your antibodies fall, the more you can take? That's good news.

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Understood, and thanks for everything gals :-) This is so wonderful! I'll try not to overdo it :-D

Yay!

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  On 5/19/2012 at 12:59 PM, pricklypear1971 said:

I have noticed I can't get them ON my rash - I was using almond oil/Shea butter salve on the spot on my hand and thought it was ok. Nope. I finally figured out it was making it worse, switched to Vanicream and it's finally healing. I also can't get fruit or vegetables on the rash or it triggers a new outbreak. Thus, the kitchen gloves.

Iodine was worse for me. I was much more sensitive to iodine with my DH. Still am. I can eat sushi and get a dry red spot immediately.

I did notice that when I ate seasoned chicken with my hands once.. The seasoning wasn't spicy but my rash felt burn-ie when some of it came in contact.. I guess these rashes reacts from both sides :-)

It's really amazing how fast reactions can be. I sometimes thought it's was all in my head because the moment I ate those extra portions of sweet potato or extra sips of carrot juice, my nose starts itching.. And I would think "Can't be that fast!"

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  On 5/19/2012 at 12:27 PM, squirmingitch said:

But I had to take a lot of Tylenol throughout the day for 4 days. Then it caught up with me. Sals overload again. So, the sals are getting out of my system again & my rash is getting better.

Sneaky no good sals :-( I'm glad you're doing better now!

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You know what's weird? 99% of the time that I eat a meal --- no sal, low sal, no iodine, low iodine --- whatever --- I get some itchiness for about 10 or 15 minutes. Then it goes away. Not bad itchy just "little tingles". My hubs noticed the same thing. We were talking about it yesterday. We were wondering if it might have anything to do with the food hitting your intestines & the villi. And since we aren't fully healed yet maybe --- I don't know --- maybe something to do with the body having to work harder to deal with the food & so it has to let up on keeping the itch from happening??????

It's weird.

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  On 5/19/2012 at 6:34 PM, squirmingitch said:

You know what's weird? 99% of the time that I eat a meal --- no sal, low sal, no iodine, low iodine --- whatever --- I get some itchiness for about 10 or 15 minutes. Then it goes away. Not bad itchy just "little tingles". My hubs noticed the same thing. We were talking about it yesterday. We were wondering if it might have anything to do with the food hitting your intestines & the villi. And since we aren't fully healed yet maybe --- I don't know --- maybe something to do with the body having to work harder to deal with the food & so it has to let up on keeping the itch from happening??????

It's weird.

I've had that happen too, though not as frequently lately. And if the Tylenol was bothering you after a few days, it might have been sulfites too. Corn starch has sulfites. I had a headache today and wanted to take an aspirin but didn't for that reason.

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  On 5/20/2012 at 2:42 AM, ciamarie said:

I've had that happen too, though not as frequently lately. And if the Tylenol was bothering you after a few days, it might have been sulfites too. Corn starch has sulfites. I had a headache today and wanted to take an aspirin but didn't for that reason.

Thanks ciamarie! I had no idea about the sulfites. Sheesh! It gets harder & harder. How are we supposed to use pain relievers? what can we use?

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This is a guide I've used to keep a track of sulphites.

Given that I eat very little processed food and I am iodine and sals low I tend to avoid them naturally.

My sals reaction is definitely cumulative like other posters have stated. The longer gluten free the less intense my DH reaction to sals - unless I go overboard. I'd say I am low-mid intake of iodine (but only compared to us DH folk - certainly not taking in mid-range iodine compared to general population.. I think that part of the world is forever beyond mine).

I do hope you take everyones advice and go a bit steadier. Have a small treat once a day, or every other day. If you are like many of us you only need a small glutening for that sals / iodine intake to send your DH into a major spin.

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