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Paper Mache?


Mrsjames

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I'm new to this forum and so happy to have found it! I recently discovered that my son and I are gluten intolerant. My son was properly diagnosed with a couple of blood tests but the doctor wanted total confirmation, by putting him back on a diet with gluten for 6 months and then conducting an intestinal biopsy.

My husband and I opted to forego the 6 months of torture to our little guy and just went ahead and began a gluten free diet for him. At the same time to support his new dietary restrictions, I too went gluten free and found that after years of suffering various skin rashes and phantom inflamation flares from swollen knees, wrists and feet, to year long bouts with Iritis, that I too felt much better.

We have been living gluten free for a year of so now and my son and I are finally feeling healthy.

Recently, I did a paper mach


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You likely inhaled flour particles from the air. Flour stays airborne for quite some time and even the tiniest amount is enough to flare the antibody reaction.

julandjo Explorer

I react to topical gluten! I was at the salon last summer and had a cut and style. On the way home I started itching and burning, and discovered an angry red rash, but only on my left arm and left calf. It made no sense... until I realized that my left arm and left calf were exposed when my stylist was spraying hairspray on me. I liked the hairspray so much that I had bought a can of it when I paid. I whipped that can out and read the ingredients and whaddya know? Wheat starch was like the fourth ingredient! So yeah, it's totally possible. (And the salon let me return the hairspray for a full refund. :P )

Darn210 Enthusiast

. . . and on another note . . . in case anyone looks at this thread wondering what to do for paper mache projects . . .

Here is a link to a recipe that uses corn starch, water, and glue (elmer's):

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We did a paper mache school project, and all we used was one part water to one part elmer's and it worked fine . . . so well, that we can't seem to throw it out as my son is quite attached to it.

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