Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

First Gluten, Now Lactose (Noooo!)


eers03

Recommended Posts

eers03 Explorer

I started out by cutting gluten.  My follow up labs show that I have done a great job of staying compliant with my gluten-free diet.  My other marker shows that my immune system/tissues are still reacting.  I'm absent IGA so it could take longer for these numbers to decrease.  

 

I have noticed on my own that when I eat ice cream (evening habit), and drink milk (love it) or make my pizzas (extra cheese please), I get G-A-S-S-A-Y.  

 

I've gone (mostly) lactose free and have noticed major improvement in the aforementioned.  I think its safe to say, I need to stick with the lactose free wagon.

 

Additionally, I've seen improvement in a urinary symptom as well, more bubbles than the norm.  Thats been going on for a few years, recently, it has cleared up.  Huh?  Whatever, works for me.

 

Anyhow, if you have gone gluten-free and are still having a few issues you can't shake, try eliminating lactose.  I didn't want to believe it but its helped.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



BelleVie Enthusiast

This is a really common issue with a lot of celiacs. I recall my time in college when I worked in a coffee shop. I would often drink coffee drinks made with milk, topped with whipped cream. EEK. Gassy. Yes. It was not pleasant! The good news for you is that once your gut has healed, you will very likely be able to enjoy dairy products again in the future.  :)

eers03 Explorer

Thanks for sharing!  I've heard people mention that lactose and gluten can be concomitant issues but I've not heard someone mention that I may eventually be able to have lactose again.  Good to have something to look forward to!

squirmingitch Veteran

The tips of the villi are where lactose is dealt with. It takes time for them to heal & grow back. When that happens, there's a good chance you will get dairy back again.

w8in4dave Community Regular

Yup I am living proof of that!! It took a bout 3 months and I slowly introduced Lactose into my diet and It worked!! Good luck!! Hope you get it back!! 

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I had decades of not tolerating lactose.  After about a year gluten-free I started trying it again, and now I can tolerate several cups of milk in a day.

BelleVie Enthusiast

I'm still kind of confused about casein intolerance. I cut out dairy and casein because I was having some weird rashes/head spaciness issues that I now know were linked to dairy consumption. A forum member told me that for some people, casein is like gluten, and once you are intolerant, it may always be that way, but then it's also possible that the intolerance could pass. Is there any scientific info on this stuff, do you guys know? Sorry, I hope I'm not hijacking the thread! 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



eers03 Explorer

That is a great question.  I have wondered about casein as well but eggs and meat do not seem to cause the same reaction that milk and ice cream or large amounts of cheese do for me.  Don't know.

Pegleg84 Collaborator

I've got trouble with casein too, so I avoid all dairy. A tiny bit doesn't do much, and it is the lesser of my woes, but it's insta-headache, some stomach troubles, and messes with my sinuses. Not fun.

 

Some people do eventually reintroduce things their intolerant to, but I think it really depends on the person. I can't have soy either, and don't expect to ever get that back. 

 

If it's just lactose you have problems with, though, then it is more likely that you'll be able to reintroduce it eventually.

 

Glad you're feeling better without it!

GFinDC Veteran

Hi,

 

Casein is a protein in cow dairy.  Eggs don't have it, or meats.  It is unlikely for a casein reaction to stop being a problem.  It may be possible to tolerate it in small amounts, but it is not something you should eat regularly if you are having a reaction to it IMHO.

 

Daiya makes a dairy free cheese sub that is ok.

moosemalibu Collaborator

Hi,

 

Casein is a protein in cow dairy.  Eggs don't have it, or meats.  It is unlikely for a casein reaction to stop being a problem.  It may be possible to tolerate it in small amounts, but it is not something you should eat regularly if you are having a reaction to it IMHO.

 

Daiya makes a dairy free cheese sub that is ok.

 

I don't know about the Daiya cheese... That stuff is GROSS! Nothing compares to a good sharp cheddar.

squirmingitch Veteran

I have to agree with you there Jamie! I tried that Daiya stuff & it's gross IMO.

Tbolt47 Newbie

That is a great question.  I have wondered about casein as well but eggs and meat do not seem to cause the same reaction that milk and ice cream or large amounts of cheese do for me.  Don't know.

I tolerate real cultured cheese and Greek yogurt well, however milk and Ice cream  are an issue. Additionally, soy was a bigger issue than lactose for myself.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,547
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    gizmo1jazz2
    Newest Member
    gizmo1jazz2
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Your post demonstrates the profound frustration and isolation that so many in the Celiac community feel, and I want to thank you for channeling that experience into advocacy. The medical gaslighting you endured for decades is an unacceptable and, sadly, a common story, and the fact that you now have to "school" your own GI specialist speaks volumes about the critical lack of consistent and updated education. Your idea to make Celiac Disease a reportable condition to public health authorities is a compelling and strategic one. This single action would force the system to formally acknowledge the prevalence and seriousness of the disease, creating a concrete dataset that could drive better research funding, shape medical school curricula, and validate the patient experience in a way that individual stories alone often cannot. It is an uphill battle, but contacting representatives, as you have done with Adam Gray, is exactly how change begins. By framing it as a public health necessity—a matter of patient safety and protection from misdiagnosis and neglect—you are building a powerful case. Your voice and your perseverance, forged through thirty years of struggle, are exactly what this community needs to ensure that no one else has to fight so hard just to be believed and properly cared for.
    • Scott Adams
      I had no idea there is a "Louisville" in Colorado!😉 I thought it was a typo because I always think of the Kentucky city--but good luck!
    • Scott Adams
      Navigating medication safety with Celiac disease can be incredibly stressful, especially when dealing with asthma and severe allergies on top of it. While I don't have personal experience with the HealthA2Z brand of cetirizine, your caution is absolutely warranted. The inactive ingredients in pills, known as excipients, are often where gluten can be hidden, and since the FDA does not require gluten-free labeling for prescription or over-the-counter drugs, the manufacturer's word is essential. The fact that you cannot get a clear answer from Allegiant Health is a significant red flag; a company that is confident its product is gluten-free will typically have a customer service protocol to answer that exact question. In situations like this, the safest course of action is to consider this product "guilty until proven innocent" and avoid it. A better alternative would be to ask your pharmacist or doctor to help you identify a major national brand of cetirizine (like Zyrtec) whose manufacturer has a verified, publicly stated gluten-free policy for that specific medication. It's not worth the risk to your health when reliable, verifiable options are almost certainly available to you. You can search this site for USA prescriptions medications, but will need to know the manufacturer/maker if there is more than one, especially if you use a generic version of the medication: To see the ingredients you will need to click on the correct version of the medication and maker in the results, then scroll down to "Ingredients and Appearance" and click it, and then look at "Inactive Ingredients," as any gluten ingredients would likely appear there, rather than in the Active Ingredients area. https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/   
    • Scott Adams
      What you're describing is indeed familiar to many in the Celiac community, especially in the early stages of healing. When the intestinal villi are damaged from Celiac disease, they struggle to properly digest and absorb fats, a condition known as bile acid malabsorption. This can cause exactly the kind of cramping and spasms you're seeing, as undigested fats can irritate the sensitive gut lining. It is highly plausible that her reactions to dairy and eggs are linked to their higher fat content rather than the proteins, especially since she tolerates lean chicken breast. The great news is that for many, this does improve with time. As her gut continues to heal on a strict gluten-free diet, her ability to produce the necessary enzymes and bile to break down fats should gradually return, allowing her to slowly tolerate a wider variety of foods. It's a slow process of healing, but your careful approach of focusing on low-fat, nutrient-dense foods like seeds and avocado is providing her system the best possible environment to recover. Many people with celiac disease, especially those who are in the 0-2 year range of their recovery, have additional food intolerance issues which could be temporary. To figure this out you may need to keep a food diary and do an elimination diet over a few months. Some common food intolerance issues are dairy/casein, eggs, corn, oats, and soy. The good news is that after your gut heals (for most people who are 100% gluten-free this will take several months to two years) you may be able to slowly add some these items back into your diet after the damaged villi heal. This article may be helpful: Thank you for sharing your story—it's a valuable insight for other parents navigating similar challenges.
    • Beverage
      I had a very rough month after diagnosis. No exaggeration, lost so much inflammatory weight, I looked like a bag of bones, underneath i had been literally starving to death. I did start feeling noticeably better after a month of very strict control of my kitchen and home. What are you eating for breakfast and lunch? I ignored my doc and ate oats, yes they were gluten free, but some brands are at the higher end of gluten free. Lots of celics can eat Bob's Red Mill gluten-free oats, but not me. I can now eat them, but they have to be grown and processed according to the "purity protocol" methods. I mail order them, Montana Gluten-Free brand. A food and symptoms and activities log can be helpful in tracking down issues. You might be totally aware, but I have to mention about the risk of airborne gluten. As the doc that diagnosed me warned . . Remember eyes, ears, nose, and mouth all lead to your stomach and intestines.  Are you getting any cross contamination? Airborne gluten? Any pets eating gluten (they eat it, lick themselves, you pet them...)? Any house remodeling? We live in an older home, always fixing something. I've gotten glutened from the dust from cutting into plaster walls, possibly also plywood (glues). The suggestions by many here on vitamin supplements also really helped me. I had some lingering allergies and asthma, which are now 99% gone. I was taking Albuterol inhaler every hour just to breathe, but thiamine in form of benfotiamine kicked that down to 1-2 times a day within a few days of starting it. Also, since cutting out inflammatory seed oils (canola, sunflower, grapeseed, etc) and cooking with real olive oil, avocado oil, ghee, and coconut oil, I have noticed even greater improvement overall and haven't used the inhaler in months! It takes time to weed out everything in your life that contains gluten, and it takes awhile to heal and rebuild your health. At first it's mentally exhausting, overwhelming, even obsessive, but it gets better and second nature.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.