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ceceliac Apprentice

Hi, i know this is a very dumb question, but i wanna know if i am being too obsessive; can a fly gluten cross contaminate my food? LOL

It's almost summer here where i live, and there are lots of them. I have not found any information on the internet so i guess i'm too obsessive but i want you to tell me what you think. 

 


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kareng Grand Master

Maybe....probably not. It's not something I worry about.

BelleVie Enthusiast

Haha, don't feel silly about asking it. I have asked lots of crazy questions too, like can I get glutened from touching a light switch or a door handle at the school where I work?  :) I'd think a fly would be a long shot! No worries. :) 

Gemini Experienced

You can relax.....you cannot be glutened by a fly, a doorknob or a lightswitch. Unless all three contain gluten and you eat them directly, you are safe!  :P

LauraTX Rising Star

Theoretically, yes.  Realistically, probably not.  Things like that are like being afraid of getting hit by a meteor.  It is totally out of your control so you can't dwell on it. Plus, flies carry more gross things than gluten :P  But I do understand that in certain areas you just can't avoid them!

IrishHeart Veteran

You raise an interesting question, and I gave it some real thought before answering (hey, I'm living down here in Paradise

now and we work at a slower pace, what can I say?) B)  :D

...

and I'd have to say I'd be more concerned by the more likely probability

that your food would be contaminated by the OTHER icky stuff that fly might dip his little legs in

(dog poo for starters) than the beyond- miniscule traces of gluten that might somehow get picked up

during his travels.

 

Unless he was previously trapped in a wheat flour factory and lands in your mouth. (what? it could happen. I lived in the countryside for 16 years. Lots of Oogey things got swallowed....just sayin')

but I digress LOL

 

anyway, my honest opinion is...no worries, Ceceliac!

BelleVie Enthusiast

You can relax.....you cannot be glutened by a fly, a doorknob or a lightswitch. Unless all three contain gluten and you eat them directly, you are safe!  :P

True, but I'm pretty sure I CAN get glutened if the forty kids at school eat cookies and then run their little hands over EVERYTHING, and then I open a door, then sit down at my desk and grab a quick snack and eat it.


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bartfull Rising Star

Always, always, always, wash your hands before putting ANYTHING in your mouth. I wash my hands a lot anyway, but even if I have just washed them two minutes ago, if I have touched ANYTHING (like my gluten-eating cat, my guitar that someone else has played earlier, the telephone here at the shop tha others use on occasion, or even my face which has a non-gluten-free foundation on it) I wash them again before I'll even pop a cashew in my mouth.

ceceliac Apprentice

What if the fly falls into my half cooked niddles' water? D: so many questions hahah I also wash my hands every time i put anything in my mouth, i thought i was exagerated LOL I was going to ask abut that anyway, i miss eating a sandwich while walking down the street with my dirty hands. And i miss bread so much!! i've never been a bread lover, but now im craving a sandwich, a real one with the normal bread!!! and im not hungry, its just that today i've eaten all horrible foods, i made some cookies that were ewww and then i bought some sausages that tasted horrible! I miss my old easy life

LauraTX Rising Star

I miss my old easy life

Me too sometimes.  The longer you do it, the easier and more natural it gets, though.  And the "you just ate gluten and you are breathing on me" anxiety gets itself to a happy medium.

kareng Grand Master

What if the fly falls into my half cooked niddles' water?

It's some extra protein!

Adalaide Mentor

It's some extra protein!

 

:lol: My gluten eating husband would probably end up way more paranoid about this than me. I would just fish it out of the water and forget it ever happened.

 

Me too sometimes.  The longer you do it, the easier and more natural it gets, though.  And the "you just ate gluten and you are breathing on me" anxiety gets itself to a happy medium.

 

This has turned into a joke in my house with my husband. I'll make a cross with my fingers and ward him off and he'll hiss at me. As long as I remember it's just a joke I remember not to be too paranoid.

IrishHeart Veteran

When we  go through the giant bread aisle and bakery section of BJs,

 

I point and say "it's poison! poison, I tell ya!" really loudly and watch the people's faces.

 

It's fun.

 

(My poor hubs.).

Adalaide Mentor

Yesterday at Costco I saw huge bags of BRM steel cut oats. They were a good price, and I guessed that they were regular but wanted to see if they were gluten free, just in case. (Not that anyone does steel cut for anything approaching a reasonable price. <_<) My husband grabbed a bag and held it out to me to take, knowing in the back of my mind they wouldn't be gluten free I didn't take the bag, he started shoving it at me saying "just take it!" I did, checked it, handed it back and told him "it's poison oats" and explained that BRM has two facilities. A good one and a poison one.

 

Yes, the looks are always fantastic. :D

notme Experienced

It's some extra protein!

i think you have to eat, like, a pound of them, though lolz  ;) 

 

now i am having visions of jeff goldblum:  "heeeeelp meeeeeeeee!!!!!!" 

ceceliac Apprentice

When we  go through the giant bread aisle and bakery section of BJs,

 

I point and say "it's poison! poison, I tell ya!" really loudly and watch the people's faces.

 

It's fun.

 

(My poor hubs.).

 

hahahahahha i'll do that!! 

 

It's some extra protein!

 LOL!! ok, so i'll eat some flies today, i need protein

IrishHeart Veteran

Hon, you have a great sense of humor. That will help you heal faster and keep you from getting too worrisome.

Welcome to the forum!

;)

Adalaide Mentor

Hon, you have a great sense of humor. That will help you heal faster and keep you from getting too worrisome.

Welcome to the forum!

;)

 

True x100! Laughter. The only medicine that treats celiac. ^_^

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