Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Soap Question


Serielda

Recommended Posts

Serielda Enthusiast

I have what may seem like a strange question to ask, but after the past few days and how badly I felt I need some advice.  I had been visiting a new site and  as of late had symptoms that mimicked being glutened. Stomach and head aches, unpleasant restroom trips, absolutely  exhausted ,to name a few.  I think I have maybe isolated things down to two of what it may have been.  I know the old hand soap we used was gluten free but where I have been recently working  is just generic hand soap in a shared bathroom. Has anyone ever been glutened by hand soap before? It sounds odd to me, but if your eating a wrap with your hands you made yourself and can attest it was gluten free(wrap came from a local allergen free/ gluten free  bakery). I have one other idea but it seems just as strange as in  where coffee cups are stored, I am careful to watch for CC concerns in the break room but this is  just odd that it looks like the  culprit could be soap.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



1desperateladysaved Proficient

I make soap.  There can be wheat germ in it. I carry my own soap in a tin to avoid using public bathroom soaps.  One of my daughter's skin reacts when she uses public bath soap; so did mine the last time I did.  My hands get white and purple splotches.  I am not absolutely certain wheat causes the problem in every case as there can be many ingredients used in commercial soap. 

nvsmom Community Regular

It is possible but usually if you rinse your hands very well, you should not have soap on you anymore.  It could be cc but I am guessing that the most likely culprit is just that you are still fairly new to the gluten-free diet and there are still autoantibodies causing you issues. It can take weeks to years for the body to stop producing autoantibodies, and then it can take months to heal.  I was still still taking two steps forward and one step back at 6 months gluten-free, and I was still improving at over 9 months gluten-free.  You may just need to give it more time.

 

In the meantime, keep an eye out for possible cc as I could be wrong in your case (it just sounds like you are being very careful already).

 

Best wishes.

Serielda Enthusiast

Thank you both for the insight, I myself am very  vigilant on watching things as I am very new.  I recently went out to buy my own soap to avoid that after reading these posts. 

It is possible but usually if you rinse your hands very well, you should not have soap on you anymore.  It could be cc but I am guessing that the most likely culprit is just that you are still fairly new to the gluten-free diet and there are still autoantibodies causing you issues. It can take weeks to years for the body to stop producing autoantibodies, and then it can take months to heal.  I was still still taking two steps forward and one step back at 6 months gluten-free, and I was still improving at over 9 months gluten-free.  You may just need to give it more time.

 

In the meantime, keep an eye out for possible cc as I could be wrong in your case (it just sounds like you are being very careful already).

 

Best wishes.

 

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Can you bring your own coffee in a thermos? That way you know for sure that you are not getting glutened from CC on the cups. If you aren't drinking the coffee they have available and are just worried about the cups you could bring your own from home. If they use those disposable cups that come in stacks find out where the sleeves are stored and get one from the middle of the sleeve rather than one of the ones by the coffee pot. 

LauraTX Rising Star

As raven said, it is very likely people are putting their crummy gluten hands all over the coffee cups.  I would start there.

Serielda Enthusiast

Actually I bring my own drinks to work.

Can you bring your own coffee in a thermos? That way you know for sure that you are not getting glutened from CC on the cups. If you aren't drinking the coffee they have available and are just worried about the cups you could bring your own from home. If they use those disposable cups that come in stacks find out where the sleeves are stored and get one from the middle of the sleeve rather than one of the ones by the coffee pot. 

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



IrishHeart Veteran

I sincerely doubt it is the hand soap. Even if there were hydrolyzed wheat germ oil in it, the chance of it glutening you is practically nil.

 

"Most vitamin E is derived from soybean oil and 
most edible oil in the U.S. is highly refined. Even if unrefined wheat germ oil 
is the source of vitamin E, the amount of protein in an ingredient that is 
extracted from oil is likely very low. Furthermore, the amount of vitamin E 
added to a personal care product is likely low and the amount of a non-food 
item you are likely to ingest even lower." 
 
Open Original Shared Link
 

 

Have you been tested for vitamin deficiencies after your diagnosis? 

 

Have you picked up a virus of some kind?  So many things other than cc can cause continuing problems. 

 

You are still recovering, so do not despair. 

nvsmom Community Regular

Thank you both for the insight, I myself am very  vigilant on watching things as I am very new.  I recently went out to buy my own soap to avoid that after reading these posts. 

 

 

I think  that could be the problem right there - you are very new.  It can take weeks to years for our bodies to stop making autoantibodies like tTG IgA. It could just be a blip on your road to recovery.

 

Do you keep a food and symptoms journal?  It can help uncover other food sensitivities like lactose intolerance, tomatoes, nightshades, soy, etc.  Raw apples and pears do it to me - the raw pain that is really similar to a glutening.

 

Good luck in the upcoming week. Hope you feel better.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,200
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Elisa Stutsman
    Newest Member
    Elisa Stutsman
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Redanafs
      Hi everyone. Back in 2022 I had blood work drawn for iga ext gliadin. Since then I’ve developed worse stomach issues and all other health issues. My doctor just said cut out gluten. He did no further testing. Please see my test results attached. I just need some direction cause I feel so ill and the stomach pain is becoming worse. Can this test show indications for other gastrointestinal diseases?
    • Fayeb23
      Thank you. These were the results TTG ABS NUMERICAL: > 250.0 U/mL [< 14.99]  Really don’t understand the results!
    • Scott Adams
      Clearly from what you've said the info on Dailymed is much more up to date than the other site, which hasn't been updated since 2017. The fact that some companies might be repackaging drugs does not mean the info on the ingredients is not correct.
    • RMJ
      To evaluate the TTG antibody result we’d need to know the normal range for that lab.  Labs don’t all use the same units.  However, based on any normal ranges that I’ve seen and the listed result being greater than a number rather than a specific number, I’d say yes, that is high! Higher than the range where the test can give a quantitative result. You got good advice not to change your diet yet.  If you went gluten free your intestines would start to heal, confusing any further testing,
    • Bev in Milw
      Scott is correct….Thank you for catching that!      Direct link for info  of fillers.    http://www.glutenfreedrugs.com/Excipients.htm Link is on 2nd page  of www.glutenfreedrugs.com   Site was started by a pharmacist (or 2) maybe 15-20 yrs ago with LAST updated in  2017.  This makes it’s Drug List so old that it’s no longer relevant. Companies & contacts, along with suppliers &  sources would need to be referenced, same amount effort  as starting with current data on DailyMed      That being said, Excipient List is still be relevant since major changes to product labeling occurred prior ’17.           List is the dictionary that sources the ‘foreign-to-us’ terms used on pharmaceutical labels, terms we need to rule out gluten.    Note on DailyMed INFO— When you look for a specific drug on DailyMed, notice that nearly all of companies (brands/labels) are flagged as a ‘Repackager’… This would seem to suggest the actual ‘pills’ are being mass produced by a limited number of wholesaler suppliers (esp for older meds out of  patent protection.).      If so, multiple repackager-get  bulk shipments  from same supplier will all  be selling identical meds —same formula/fillers. Others repackager-could be switching suppliers  frequently based on cost, or runs both gluten-free & non- items on same lines.  No way to know  without contacting company.     While some I know have  searched pharmacies chasing a specific brand, long-term  solution is to find (or teach) pharmacy staff who’s willing help.    When I got 1st Rx ~8 years ago, I went to Walgreens & said I needed gluten-free.  Walked  out when pharmacist said  ‘How am I supposed  to know…’  (ar least he as honest… ). Walmart pharmacists down the block were ‘No problem!’—Once, they wouldn’t release my Rx, still waiting on gluten-free status from a new supplier. Re: Timeliness of DailyMed info?   A serendipitous conversation with cousin in Mi was unexpectedly reassuring.  She works in office of Perrigo, major products of OTC meds (was 1st to add gluten-free labels).  I TOTALLY lucked out when I asked about her job: “TODAY I trained a new full-time employee to make entries to Daily Med.’  Task had grown to hours a day, time she needed for tasks that couldn’t be delegated….We can only hope majorities of companies are as  conscientious!   For the Newbies…. SOLE  purpose of  fillers (possible gluten) in meds is to  hold the active ingredients together in a doseable form.  Drugs  given by injection or as IV are always gluten-free!  (Sometimes drs can do antibiotics w/ one-time injection rather than 7-10 days of  pills .) Liquid meds (typically for kids)—still read labels, but  could be an a simpler option for some products…
×
×
  • Create New...