Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Which Types Of Cow Milk Alternatives Are Best?


mightymorg

Recommended Posts

mightymorg Rookie

I know this isn't about gluten free foods, but it is along the same lines...

I don't know if I'm lactose intolerant or if it's the casein in dairy, but growing up I've never really handled moderate amounts of dairy well. Thus, I don't like milk plain at all, and will only use it for coffee or cereal, especially since I've given up my oatmeal since going gluten free! :( I've found some gluten free cereals I really like, so naturally I'm driinking more milk than normal. Other than that, that's pretty much the only dairy I consume, and I prefer skim milk.

Since drinking more milk, I've noticed some downright foul gas, and am open to other milk alternatives. I went to Whole Foods today to look at the options, but I was overwhelmed by all the different kinds (not to mention I've never had any kind of soy product!). I know there's soy, almond, rice, etc....Which do y'all prefer? I'd appreciate any pointers!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



burdee Enthusiast

IF I could tolerate soy, I'd choose soy dairy substitutes because many have high protein/ high fat varieties which I prefer. UNFORTUNATELY I react to and must avoid all forms of soy. Rice milk seems completely worthless for cereals. It's high carb, low protein and non fat. Why would I want to add more carbs to a basically high carb (usually rice based) cereal? I've used almond milks which have more protein and fats, but still not enough to balance the carbs in cereals. Coconut milk has MUCH more fats. So I often mix coconut milk with almond milk. However with hot gluten-free cereals, I cook them in some almond milk and then add almond butter (it really does melt into the cereal) to cool the cereal and add more fats and proteins. I LOVE that combination. Vance's also offers a potato based dairy substitute beverage. It's okay for cooking, but tastes awful on cereal. Most of those substitute milks collapse in hot coffee. So I haven't found anything to use in lattes. However Blue Diamond 'Almond Breeze' which contains soy lecithin does stay stable in hot coffee, but I can't tolerate any soy. Just my opinion ... Maybe others have different experiences.

BURDEE

Jnkmnky Collaborator

We use rice milk when we need to. Otherwise, we drink water. In the morning, calcium added oj. Avoid soy. It's bad for your body.

Open Original Shared Link

Other than this article, you'll find many other mainstream negatives against soy in a person's diet. This is just the one I have in my favorites.

bluelotus Contributor

I used to drink Silk soy milk, which was tasty, but then I found out that they use corn for their flavorings and I am trying to avoid corn. I agree, rice milk is high carb, but right now, it is gentle enough on me that I haven't had problems. I'd like to move on to almond and others once my tummy has settled some from recent glutenings. The rice milk I use is Lundenberg farms, original flavor. It is on their website as being gluten-free.

mightymorg Rookie

Thank y'all for the input!

Any other suggestions are welcome!

tarnalberry Community Regular

While I am not in the "soy is bad for everyone" camp, I think it's wise not to overdo it. I enjoy Almond Breeze as a second, and rice milk from Trader Joe's as a third, but all of the milk alternatives I've found besides soy have very little protein, which can be a problem for me.

tarnalberry Community Regular

whoops... duplicate


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



jenvan Collaborator

all about the rice milk...i can't do soy or dairy. i love wild oat's and whole food's rice milk the best. since you have a whole foods--i'd start with their brand of rice milk.

Carriefaith Enthusiast

I drink So Good Soy Milk and Tropicana Calcium Enriched Orange Juice.

I've read about the pro's and con's about soy and it does concern me, but I would like to see good scientific studies that prove these claims though. I may look into other products such as rice milk or almond milk.

mightymorg Rookie
all about the rice milk...i can't do soy or dairy.  i love wild oat's and whole food's rice milk the best.  since you have a whole foods--i'd start with their brand of rice milk.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sounds like I'll be giving that a try...thanks!

Jnkmnky Collaborator
I drink So Good Soy Milk and Tropicana Calcium Enriched Orange Juice.

I've read about the pro's and con's about soy and it does concern me, but I would like to see good scientific studies that prove these claims though. I may look into other products such as rice milk or almond milk.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Open Original Shared Link

I am confident that if you begin looking at the possible dangers of soy, you'll find all the proof you need in a matter of moments. Google the positves about soy and you'll see that the info is shady, and pushing a product for $$ gain. There was a lot of "hope" thrown at soy. Everyone wants to believe in something that will help with health issues, but this just isn't the miracle food they want desparate people to believe in. It's a cheap money-maker...at best. At worst...I hate to think of what it really is.

mookie03 Contributor
Sounds like I'll be giving that a try...thanks!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love Silk soymilk- all varieties, and they say gluten free on the container. I dont know about the pros/cons of soy but dont they say the same about regular milk? (that we are not meant to digest lactose?). That said, i try to mix it up a bit so im not eating too much of the same thing (i drink skim milk too b/c i can tolerate it)

Jnkmnky Collaborator
I love Silk soymilk- all varieties, and they say gluten free on the container.  I dont know about the pros/cons of soy but dont they say the same about regular milk? (that we are not meant to digest lactose?).  That said, i try to mix it up a bit so im not eating too much of the same thing (i drink skim milk too b/c i can tolerate it)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You have sit down and actually look at some info on soy. It's not as benign as you'd like to believe. Look into dairy as well. It is bad for you. I'm not all PETA ...go ahead and have a hormone/antibiotic free steak. Eat free range chicken for all I care...but for goodness sake, look into the soy 'thing'. It's seriously about your health.

Carriefaith Enthusiast
I enjoy Almond Breeze as a second, and rice milk from Trader Joe's as a third,
Do you have to order these online or can you find them in stores? I'm assuming these brands are gluten-free.
Kasey'sMom Enthusiast

With my dd we started with organic cow's milk and she became intolerant as well. We switched to soy and then she became allergic to soy. Third we tried almond milk which she loved however, she also tested positive for almonds. Now we do some rice milk, some coconunt milk, and some DariFree.

She used to beg for milk but now she doesn't ask for it as much. I just make sure that she gets lots of other food based calcium, sunshine and a children's calcium supplement.

I think she bacame sensitive to these foods because of her leaky gut. This all occured while we were waiting for her to diagnosis. :( I'm hoping over time as her system heals she can tolerate small amounts of casein etc. :)

We used to get Almond Breeze at our health food store. The closest Trader Joe's is about 6 hrs. away. I'm dying to get one in my area. :lol:

Carriefaith Enthusiast

Just to share some information I found out yesterday. Rice Dream is not gluten free. I went out and bought some thinking it was and then before I had any I came across this info:

Open Original Shared Link

Is Rice Dream Beverage a gluten free product?

No. Rice Dream Beverage is processed using a barley enzyme. Even though the barley enzyme is discarded after use, the final beverage might contain a minute residual amount (less than .002%) of barley protein. For a list of gluten free products click here.

jenvan Collaborator

yeah, rice dream is shady :) it has tricked several people here. i haven't read a pkg myself, but have heard barley isn't listed in the ingredients but somewhere else on the package b/c it is used in processing....

jerseyangel Proficient

Yea--I noticed that at the store while reading the label about the .002% and didn't read any further. I use Pacific Foods Plain Rice Milk--they also have a vanilla version which I haven't tried yet. I like it in mashed potatoes--don't drink it plain, though.

skbird Contributor

I tend to do it sort of like Burdee, though I am not lactose intolerant. For a while I was only drinking goat milk when it came to dairy (meaning not cow milk) but I don't like goat milk on cereal and am not wild about soy, so I would do almond milk with coconut milk mixed in. That is a pretty good combo. Rice milk - meh!

I have made my own almond milk before - it's something like you take a cup of raw almonds, some shredded coconut and put in a blender then add 1 cup of boiling water and blend, carefully. You can add some more water, but be careful with the hot water in the blender, it expands fast. Then I let it sit and "steep" for a while, until it cools down. Add some vanilla extract, strain out the almond/coconut, and chill, for some good milk. You can use the left over pulp in baked goods.

You can also buy Hazelnut milk, I think it's Pacific brand. Also gluten free. I am not a fan of how much pre-made milks are sweetened though, and the only non-sweet versions I've found are for soy. Trader Joes has a good non-sweet soy milk in a green carton - if I have soy milk, that is usually the one I have.

Oddly, I had some cow milk a month ago after a few years of not drinking it (only goat milk) and had no problem. I have been drinking 1-2 cups a day for the past month, no gastro side effects or anything else. I have wondered *why* I don't seem to have problems with dairy, I tested negative at Enterolab for casein problems and have never experienced anything that would indicate lactose intolerance. I read often about how adults aren't supposed to tolerate it and that cow milk is bad, but I must be one of the very few rare adults with no problems with it. I am mostly Dutch, though, so maybe that has something to do with it. I do only get organic cow milk though, for the absence of excess homones and chemicals as well as the fact that organic cow milk has more omega three oils (because of the better diet the cows get). And I don't buy Horizon, as I have read too much about them not really conforming to organic standards, keeping cows in a feed lot, etc. Not cool.

Stephanie

Jnkmnky Collaborator
I tend to do it sort of like Burdee, though I am not lactose intolerant. For a while I was only drinking goat milk when it came to dairy (meaning not cow milk) but I don't like goat milk on cereal and am not wild about soy, so I would do almond milk with coconut milk mixed in. That is a pretty good combo. Rice milk - meh!

I have made my own almond milk before - it's something like you take a cup of raw almonds, some shredded coconut and put in a blender then add 1 cup of boiling water and blend, carefully. You can add some more water, but be careful with the hot water in the blender, it expands fast. Then I let it sit and "steep" for a while, until it cools down. Add some vanilla extract, strain out the almond/coconut, and chill, for some good milk. You can use the left over pulp in baked goods.

You can also buy Hazelnut milk, I think it's Pacific brand. Also gluten free. I am not a fan of how much pre-made milks are sweetened though, and the only non-sweet versions I've found are for soy. Trader Joes has a good non-sweet soy milk in a green carton - if I have soy milk, that is usually the one I have.

Oddly, I had some cow milk a month ago after a few years of not drinking it (only goat milk) and had no problem. I have been drinking 1-2 cups a day for the past month, no gastro side effects or anything else. I have wondered *why* I don't seem to have problems with dairy, I tested negative at Enterolab for casein problems and have never experienced anything that would indicate lactose intolerance. I read often about how adults aren't supposed to tolerate it and that cow milk is bad, but I must be one of the very few rare adults with no problems with it. I am mostly Dutch, though, so maybe that has something to do with it. I do only get organic cow milk though, for the absence of excess homones and chemicals as well as the fact that organic cow milk has more omega three oils (because of the better diet the cows get). And I don't buy Horizon, as I have read too much about them not really conforming to organic standards, keeping cows in a feed lot, etc. Not cool.

Stephanie

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Horizon is the least concerned with the higher standards of Organic farming. Organic Valley is trying harder to be Organic in the strictest sense.

skbird Contributor

Yeah, I am all over Organic Valley these days. I was looking at the organic milk at my Raley's store and they have a house brand for a dollar less than the Organic Valley. But since I wasn't sure where it comes from, I was going to get the OV brand, UNTIL I saw on the side of the carton that the house brand IS from OV. So that is what I have been getting.

I read an article about them a while back, they are a collective, not a big corporation like Horizon. The only Horizon product I get is the sour cream - they use probiotic bacteria in it and it has a unique taste. I haven't found another sour cream like it. When I have gotten the Horizon whipping cream, it has gone sour in fewer than 5 days, despite the expiration date each time. Then I read about the feed lots in Idaho and Colorado and I said forget about it - paying that much more for basically the same thing I can get in the regular section. Bah!

Stephanie

tarnalberry Community Regular
Do you have to order these online or can you find them in stores? I'm assuming these brands are gluten-free.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've found Almond Breeze in many stores (including mainstream) in the SoCal and Seattle locations. The rice milk from Trader Joe's is their own brand, so you'd have to go to a Trader Joe's to get it. ;-)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Wheatwacked replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    2. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - Florence Lillian replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      11

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,356
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    JAGAPG
    Newest Member
    JAGAPG
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Raising you vitamin D will increase absorption of calcium automatically without supplementation of calcium.  A high PTH can be caused by low D causing poor calcium absorption; not insuffient calcium intake.  With low D your body is not absorbing calcium from your food so it steals it from your bones.  Heart has priority over bone. I've been taking 10,000 IU D3 a day since 2015.  My doctor says to continue. To fix my lactose intolerance, lots of lactobacillus from yogurts, and brine fermented pickles and saurkraut and olives.  We lose much of our ability to make lactase endogenosly with maturity but a healthy colony of lactobacillus in our gut excretes lactase in exchange for room and board. The milk protein in grass fed milk does not bother me. It tastes like the milk I grew up on.  If I drink commercial milk I get heartburn at night. Some experts estimate that 90% of us do not eat Adequite Intake of choline.  Beef and eggs are the principle source. Iodine deficiency is a growing concern.  I take 600 mcg a day of Liquid Iodine.  It and NAC have accelerated my healing all over.  Virtually blind in my right eye after starting antihypertensive medication and vision is slowly coming back.  I had to cut out starches because they drove my glucose up into the 200+ range.  I replaced them with Red Bull for the glucose intake with the vitamins, minerals and Taurine needed to process through the mitochodria Krebs Cycle to create ATP.  Went from A1c 13 down to 7.9.  Work in progress. Also take B1,B2,B3,B5,B6. Liquid Iodine, Phosphatidyl Choline, Q10, Selenium, D and DHEA.     Choline supplemented as phosphatidylcholine decreases fasting and postmethionine-loading plasma homocysteine concentrations in healthy men +    
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.