Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Blood test


MM79

Recommended Posts

MM79 Newbie

I’m 38, diagnosed hashimotos age 11, fluctuation symptoms for celiac, chose to go gluten free 6wks before my wedding, felt amazing and lost all my bloat, abdo pain, constipation and fluid retention. After honeymoon started gluten challenge pre blood test. I lasted 27hrs and ended up at doctors due to severe bloating causing shortness of breath, abdo pain, sweating, dripping nose (weird!), feeling extremely emotional (wanting to cry and feeling low), difficulty sleeping, laying down with my stomach so distended made me want to vomit, finding it hard to get fluids in because of feeling so full all the time. I almost broke down because I couldn’t see another day of gluten challenge and it’s recommended 4wks....

Doctor told me to cut back on gluten, because reaction was so obvious and I’ve also tested positive as a gene carrier, i can get celiac blood test done in 7 days (allowing time for current reaction to create antibodies).. that’s if I am celiac. 

I stopped intentionally gluten loading 4 days ago and still have abdo swelling. New symptoms appeared this time, day after seeing doctor I woke up with swollen face and extremely puffy eyes (particularly under eye) and found it hard to see. This lasted the whole day and slept the whole day through and that night. I was extremely itritable and down and for the 1st time a headache lasting 3 days even into back of my neck finding moving head uncomfortable.

I could go on with the years of symptoms I’ve experienced... I guess I’m on here hoping to hear from others if the face/eye swelling has happened to others, similar type headache, narcolepsy type reaction (just needing to sleep deeply) and has anyone else had testing so early after a reaction.

I find the more I chose to stay away from ‘obvious’ gluten foods, when I do reintroduce them my body reacts worse each time. Has this happened to anyone else this way?

I’m clearing hoping I’m not celiac, reading  other members stories it’s not something to want to have, and have upmost respect for what you all go through on a daily basis. guess I’m just wanting answers and correct diagnosis. Hoping to start trying for our 1st child asap so need to know... guess this is another reason for the rush on the blood test... 

I get my blood test in 2 days, at the doctors for results in 3 days ?

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master
8 hours ago, MM79 said:

I’m 38, diagnosed hashimotos age 11, fluctuation symptoms for celiac, chose to go gluten free 6wks before my wedding, felt amazing and lost all my bloat, abdo pain, constipation and fluid retention. After honeymoon started gluten challenge pre blood test. I lasted 27hrs and ended up at doctors due to severe bloating causing shortness of breath, abdo pain, sweating, dripping nose (weird!), feeling extremely emotional (wanting to cry and feeling low), difficulty sleeping, laying down with my stomach so distended made me want to vomit, finding it hard to get fluids in because of feeling so full all the time. I almost broke down because I couldn’t see another day of gluten challenge and it’s recommended 4wks....

Doctor told me to cut back on gluten, because reaction was so obvious and I’ve also tested positive as a gene carrier, i can get celiac blood test done in 7 days (allowing time for current reaction to create antibodies).. that’s if I am celiac. 

I stopped intentionally gluten loading 4 days ago and still have abdo swelling. New symptoms appeared this time, day after seeing doctor I woke up with swollen face and extremely puffy eyes (particularly under eye) and found it hard to see. This lasted the whole day and slept the whole day through and that night. I was extremely itritable and down and for the 1st time a headache lasting 3 days even into back of my neck finding moving head uncomfortable.

I could go on with the years of symptoms I’ve experienced... I guess I’m on here hoping to hear from others if the face/eye swelling has happened to others, similar type headache, narcolepsy type reaction (just needing to sleep deeply) and has anyone else had testing so early after a reaction.

I find the more I chose to stay away from ‘obvious’ gluten foods, when I do reintroduce them my body reacts worse each time. Has this happened to anyone else this way?

I’m clearing hoping I’m not celiac, reading  other members stories it’s not something to want to have, and have upmost respect for what you all go through on a daily basis. guess I’m just wanting answers and correct diagnosis. Hoping to start trying for our 1st child asap so need to know... guess this is another reason for the rush on the blood test... 

I get my blood test in 2 days, at the doctors for results in 3 days ?

 

I am sorry that you are unwell!  

I am concerned that your doctor is not following normal guidelines for diagnosing celiac disease.  A gluten challenge is usually 8 to 12 weeks prior to the blood test (2 to 4 prior to endoscopy) as recommended by leading research centers:

Open Original Shared Link

The actual screening tests:

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

You can go forward with the blood test to see if you have enough antibodies to be measured.  However, if the tests are negative, you can not rule out celiac disease.  You might consult with another doctor who is celiac-savvy. 

It sounds like you have celiac disease, but you can not tell by symptoms alone since they overlap with many other illnesses.  You can continue to go gluten free, but for life.  

I wish you well! 

LAR2017 Rookie

My answer isn't all that helpful, more in the spirit of empathy since I am still in the process of diagnosis and can't say celiac or intolerance at this point. But before going gluten free I had many a morning with a puffy face and an aching neck and migraine. From what I've read it is a sign of inflammation/inflammatory disease. I tend to get joint swelling in my fingers and ankles and pain at the same time. Narcolepsy, abdominal swelling and fatigue were common for me too. I haven't tried the challenge yet since I went gluten-free first.  Good luck with your testing, I hope you are able to go back to being gluten-free soon! 

MM79 Newbie
22 hours ago, cyclinglady said:

I am sorry that you are unwell!  

I am concerned that your doctor is not following normal guidelines for diagnosing celiac disease.  A gluten challenge is usually 8 to 12 weeks prior to the blood test (2 to 4 prior to endoscopy) as recommended by leading research centers:

Open Original Shared Link

The actual screening tests:

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

You can go forward with the blood test to see if you have enough antibodies to be measured.  However, if the tests are negative, you can not rule out celiac disease.  You might consult with another doctor who is celiac-savvy. 

It sounds like you have celiac disease, but you can not tell by symptoms alone since they overlap with many other illnesses.  You can continue to go gluten free, but for life.  

I wish you well! 

Thank you cyclinglady for taking the time with sending so much info ☺️

Ive cut back on gluten but still maintained some intake daily since I started challenge, I’m just not able to do gluten every meal. 

Because I was mindfully excluding  obvious gluten foods for 6wks my GP & nutritionalist/dietician thinks there might still be enough evidence in doing bloods early, but being mindful that it could be too early for a successful test, I’m doing my best to eat some form of gluten when able incase I need retesting in a few weeks...

bloods tomorrow.. will keep you posted ?

MM79 Newbie
22 hours ago, LAR2017 said:

My answer isn't all that helpful, more in the spirit of empathy since I am still in the process of diagnosis and can't say celiac or intolerance at this point. But before going gluten free I had many a morning with a puffy face and an aching neck and migraine. From what I've read it is a sign of inflammation/inflammatory disease. I tend to get joint swelling in my fingers and ankles and pain at the same time. Narcolepsy, abdominal swelling and fatigue were common for me too. I haven't tried the challenge yet since I went gluten-free first.  Good luck with your testing, I hope you are able to go back to being gluten-free soon! 

Thank you LAR2017! I find it interesting to hear and read other people’s experiences.. yesterday my mouth ulcers  started again, along with restless legs with pain in neck to shoulders and in lower back starting in the afternoons ?? still waddling round looking 6-7months pregnant and constipation getting quite painful... bloods tomorrow results day after.. hoping for some answers so I can go back to the foods that my body appreciates and deflating to an acceptable waist circumference!

are you considering the gluten challenge? I was so scared to do mine (for this exact reason, I knew I’d be uncomfortable and quite miserable!) I got the gene test 1st hoping I was negative so I didn’t have to go through this... I was positive.. and I was right... it’s a struggle... day 7 in and I can not fit into any of my clothes I’m so big and bloated, I’m guesstimating I’m up about 3 dress sizes since last week..

LAR2017 Rookie
27 minutes ago, MM79 said:

Thank you LAR2017! I find it interesting to hear and read other people’s experiences.. yesterday my mouth ulcers  started again, along with restless legs with pain in neck to shoulders and in lower back starting in the afternoons ?? still waddling round looking 6-7months pregnant and constipation getting quite painful... bloods tomorrow results day after.. hoping for some answers so I can go back to the foods that my body appreciates and deflating to an acceptable waist circumference!

are you considering the gluten challenge? I was so scared to do mine (for this exact reason, I knew I’d be uncomfortable and quite miserable!) I got the gene test 1st hoping I was negative so I didn’t have to go through this... I was positive.. and I was right... it’s a struggle... day 7 in and I can not fit into any of my clothes I’m so big and bloated, I’m guesstimating I’m up about 3 dress sizes since last week..

)-: I don't know if I will do the challenge or not. I think to be absolutely sure I would have to do it for at least 6 weeks. If I did it for a short time and then was negative I would always wonder about it. What you are experiencing is why I am hesitating. Also, I took the gene test as well and am negative for the 2 major Celiac genes, although positive for several minor ones and a flock of other autoimmune issues. So that really puts me on the fence. There is no doubt I have a strong inflammatory response to gluten and even 5 months after quitting it I'm running a high c-reactive protein test that my GI is trying to track down. I am having a colonoscopy (whee!) to rule out Crohn's before trying the challenge. In fact, I will probably try to rule out just about EVERYTHING before trying the challenge. LOL! Best of luck. 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,112
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Donna J G
    Newest Member
    Donna J G
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • jenniber
      same! how amazing you have a friend who has celiac disease. i find myself wishing i had someone to talk about it with other than my partner (who has been so supportive regardless)
    • RMJ
      They don’t give a sample size (serving size is different from sample size) so it is hard to tell just what the result means.  However, the way the result is presented  does look like it is below the limit of what their test can measure, so that is good.
    • knitty kitty
      @cristiana,  I react the same way.  Dairy consumption flushes out my digestive system within an hour, too! As casein is digested, it forms casomorphins that bind to opioid receptors in our bodies.  This is similar to digested gluten peptides being able to attach to opioid receptors in our bodies.   We have opioid receptors throughout our bodies including lots in the digestive tract. Casein raises tTg IgA antibodies just like gluten consumption does, which leads to further intestinal damage and continuing inflammation.  No wonder our bodies react to it by pushing the "emergency evacuation" ejection seat button! The mother of my childhood friend was British and introduced me to drinking tea properly with milk or cream.  I miss it so much.  And chocolate ice cream.  Not worth the after effects, though.  I've found taking Omega Three supplements (flaxseed oil, sunflower seed oil, evening primrose oil) helps shake those dairy cravings.   Green leafy veggies like broccoli, kale, and greens (mustard, turnip, collards) are great sources of calcium.  Avoid spinach as it is high in oxalates that block calcium absorption and may cause kidney stones.  Yes, more leafy greens are needed to reach the same amount of calcium in a glass of milk, but the greens have other benefits, like increased dietary fiber and polyphenols that act as antioxidants, reduce inflammation, and promote health.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards.  The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.   Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.  Another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.  
    • TheDHhurts
      Hi, I bought Naked Nutrition Creatine. It lists itself as gluten free but is not certified. (It used to be, but they dropped it in the past year or two apparently.) I wrote the company and asked them what testing results they had for creatine and they sent me the attached, which says the test result for gluten is <0.025MCG. I'm used to seeing test results as ppm, so I'm not sure what <0.025MCG means. Can it be converted to ppm easily? I want to confirm that it is safe to use.
    • cristiana
      When I was still recovering my gastroenterologist suggested I bought lactofree product as I was very bloated.  So I bought some from the supermarket and from memory, I drank a nice big glass of milk - and it went right through me literally within an hour or so, if my memory serves correctly.  I came off dairy completely next and it worked like a charm, but started to reintroduce quite gradually it as I missed it! To this day, if I overdo dairy products, they work like a mild laxative.  I've never wanted to give up milk completely as I like it so much, and my mum had osteoporosis and it's an easy way of getting calcium.  But it doesn't really 'sit' well with me.   You may need to experiment a bit as when I was healing certain dairy products were worse than others - I could cope with one brand of Greek yoghurt, but I got extremely and painfully bloated with another brand of live British yoghurt.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.