Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

second biopsy and eating gluten


Becofhearts

Recommended Posts

Becofhearts Newbie

So a few months ago I tested positive (blood test) for celiac disease, at the time I was told to go on a gluten free diet asap. I did a biopsy about 2 weeks later and I just learned the biopsy was done poorly and was ineffective because of the instructions I was given. I am now being told I need a second biopsy and I need to eat gluten again for the next 4 weeks, its only day 2 and Im so nauseous and uncomfortable I cant do anything besides stay in bed. I cant bring myself to eat anything at all now and Im very constipated (which is a problem considering I have to give the doctor 3 stool samples within a week and I cant manage one). I dont think I can do this for 4 more weeks but I dont know if I have a choice? Is there a way to make this a little easier? are there foods you recommend to get me to the biopsy? Im already taking gravol and another prescription for the nausea. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tessa25 Rising Star

Eating cooked zucchini (2 zucchinis per day) has always prevented constipation for me. I slice it then cook in a pan with light olive oil and salt. I don't know if it just works for me or would for others.

 

cyclinglady Grand Master
1 hour ago, Becofhearts said:

So a few months ago I tested positive (blood test) for celiac disease, at the time I was told to go on a gluten free diet asap. I did a biopsy about 2 weeks later and I just learned the biopsy was done poorly and was ineffective because of the instructions I was given. I am now being told I need a second biopsy and I need to eat gluten again for the next 4 weeks, its only day 2 and Im so nauseous and uncomfortable I cant do anything besides stay in bed. I cant bring myself to eat anything at all now and Im very constipated (which is a problem considering I have to give the doctor 3 stool samples within a week and I cant manage one). I dont think I can do this for 4 more weeks but I dont know if I have a choice? Is there a way to make this a little easier? are there foods you recommend to get me to the biopsy? Im already taking gravol and another prescription for the nausea. 

I am so sorry that you have to have a repeat endoscopy on top of having to consume gluten again. I hope you have a new GI who is celiac-savvy.  A gluten challenge can be very difficult and should always be done under a doctor’s care.  You only need a 1/2 piece of bread per day for the challenge.   Some patients are not able to complete the challenge.  That and your positive blood tests (and consider the genetic test) , might be enough to convince your doctor to give you a celiac diagnosis.  Another option would be to shorten the challenge to two weeks.  Learn more:

Open Original Shared Link

Stool samples.  They are not needed for a celiac diagnosis.  He may be checking for something else,  but that can wait until after your challenge, in my non-medical opinion.  But talk to your doctor.  

desirun Explorer

To clarify, did the endoscopy come back completely clear? Maybe the results are being misread?  Do you have a copy of the report? I speak from experience that even GI’s can miss Celiac Disease on an endoscopy report. 

I’m worried 4 weeks on gluten  would be torture and too harmful to your healing body. If your wheat antibodies were high and you responded well to being gluten free ,and now are extremely symptomatic back on gluten, it seems your answer is clear. 

Becofhearts Newbie
1 hour ago, desirun said:

To clarify, did the endoscopy come back completely clear? Maybe the results are being misread?  Do you have a copy of the report? I speak from experience that even GI’s can miss Celiac Disease on an endoscopy report. 

I’m worried 4 weeks on gluten  would be torture and too harmful to your healing body. If your wheat antibodies were high and you responded well to being gluten free ,and now are extremely symptomatic back on gluten, it seems your answer is clear. 

So with the first scope they told me they didnt take enough samples and with what they did have they saw some inflammation but they didnt go into detail about it. 

It is torture for sure but they were really pushing me to try.

Becofhearts Newbie
2 hours ago, tessa25 said:

Eating cooked zucchini (2 zucchinis per day) has always prevented constipation for me. I slice it then cook in a pan with light olive oil and salt. I don't know if it just works for me or would for others.

 

Ill try that out! thanks!!

Becofhearts Newbie
1 hour ago, cyclinglady said:

I am so sorry that you have to have a repeat endoscopy on top of having to consume gluten again. I hope you have a new GI who is celiac-savvy.  A gluten challenge can be very difficult and should always be done under a doctor’s care.  You only need a 1/2 piece of bread per day for the challenge.   Some patients are not able to complete the challenge.  That and your positive blood tests (and consider the genetic test) , might be enough to convince your doctor to give you a celiac diagnosis.  Another option would be to shorten the challenge to two weeks.  Learn more:

Open Original Shared Link

Stool samples.  They are not needed for a celiac diagnosis.  He may be checking for something else,  but that can wait until after your challenge, in my non-medical opinion.  But talk to your doctor.  

Thats news to me, they didnt tell me how to eat at all, they just said add gluten but didnt tell me how much lol. Which is problematic in more ways then one as i am also recovering from bulimia and have a really iffy sense of how to eat in the first place. 
Im calling my GI tomorrow to request a sooner date for the scope because I dont think Ill make it to 4 weeks 

I think the stool samples were to test for infection, they mentioned a risk of me having that or some kind of parasitic problem


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jmg Mentor
5 hours ago, Becofhearts said:

Is there a way to make this a little easier?

If it's any consolation, I did find that the challenge grew easier over the weeks I did mine. The first few days were horrible as my body had adjusted to gluten free life and didnt appreciate me reintroducing gluten. By the end of the challenge I was coping better and the effects weren't quite as bad. Hopefully that will also be the case for you. :)

I've seen some suggest eating gluten last thing at night so that you sleep through the initial effects. I'm not sure that would've worked for me but its one idea?

Best of luck. If you're feeling down or need some moral support post on here and you'll surely find some. Best wishes!

Matt

 

 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,778
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Megg Heath
    Newest Member
    Megg Heath
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Colleen H
      Hi all ! Can a celiac attack be so intense that it causes your entire body to work in reverse? Meaning really bad pain,  neuropathy and muscle,  jaw pain,  the stomach issues , Horrible anxiety and confusion??  I had a Tums and you would think I ate poison. My jaw and stomach did not like it . Not the norm for me. Things that are simple are just out of control. Anyone ever have this happen??  I'm trying to figure out what I ate or did to bring on a celiac like attack. I had an idea before but yesterday I didn't have any gluten unless it was in a medication ?! Any positive suggestions ??  Thank you 
    • Scott Adams
      The following two lists are very helpful for anyone who is gluten sensitive and needs to avoid gluten when shopping. It's very important to learn to read labels and understand sources of hidden gluten, and to know some general information about product labelling--for example in the USA if wheat is a possible allergen it must be declared on a product's ingredient label like this: Allergens: Wheat.      
    • trents
      Tammy, in the food industry, "gluten free" doesn't mean the same thing as "no gluten". As Scott explained, the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) allows food companies to use the "gluten-free" label as long as the product does not contain more than 20 ppm (parts per million) of gluten. This number is based on studies the FDA did years ago to determine the reaction threshold for those with celiac disease. And the 20 ppm figure works for the majority of celiacs. There are those who are more sensitive, however, who still react to that amount. There is another, stricter standard known as "Certified Gluten Free" which was developed by a third party organization known as GFCO which requires not more than 10 ppm of gluten. So, when you see "GFCO" or "Certified Gluten Free" labels on food items you know they are manufactured with a stricter standard concerning gluten content. Having said all that, even though you may read the disclaimer on a food item that says the spices may contain wheat, barley or rye (the gluten grains), you should be able to trust that the amount of gluten the spices may contain is so small it allows the total product to meet the requirements of gluten free or certified gluten free labeling. I hope this helps.
    • Tammy Pedler
      As soon as I see gluten free I read the labels. I always find stuff that I cannot have on the products them selfs. Like spices, when the labels says  everything listed and then after like say garlic salt then the next thing is spices. When it says that that can contain wheat and other things I can’t have.. 
    • Scott Adams
      While hypoglycemia isn't a direct, classic symptom of celiac disease, it's something that some individuals with well-managed celiac disease report, and there may be a few plausible explanations for why the two could be connected. The most common theory involves continued damage to the gut lining or nutrient deficiencies (like chromium or magnesium) that can impair the body's ability to regulate blood sugar effectively, even after gluten is removed. Another possibility is delayed stomach emptying (gastroparesis) or issues with the hormones that manage blood sugar release, like glucagon. Since your doctors are puzzled, it may be worth discussing these specific mechanisms with a gastroenterologist or endocrinologist. You are certainly not alone in experiencing this puzzling complication, and it highlights how celiac disease can have long-term metabolic effects beyond the digestive tract.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.