Goosebumps

[MisterSeth]

On and off for the past 3-4 years I get these intense feelings of rage and despair that are usually provoked by trivial media. I don't throw tantrums or anything but I've been getting goosebumps a lot lately. Is it cabin fever or might it be celiac related?

[trents]

There is a lot of trivial media these days, isn't there! Nothing else on TV to watch that is new but the news and it is not very uplifting these days.

[knitty kitty]

Found a couple of articles for you that mention thiamine deficiency and goosebumps.  Thiamine deficiency can trigger wonky fight or flight responses.  

I've had the goosebumps and the upsets that seem to come over trivial stuff.  High dose thiamine (benfotimine)  has helped me so much.  

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/asthma-a1at-deficiency-thiamine/

http://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-causes-problems/

Hope this helps!

[MisterSeth]

20 hours ago, trents said:

There is a lot of trivial media these days, isn't there! Nothing else on TV to watch that is new but the news and it is not very uplifting these days.

i mean im getting provoked by reading about things instead of them happening in front of me. I had like 3 straight days where I wanted to dive down into hell and make sure Jim Jones is still suffering and that kind of thing. Not actually but I was angry about something that happened 52 years ago

[MisterSeth]

3 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

Found a couple of articles for you that mention thiamine deficiency and goosebumps.  Thiamine deficiency can trigger wonky fight or flight responses.  

I've had the goosebumps and the upsets that seem to come over trivial stuff.  High dose thiamine (benfotimine)  has helped me so much.  

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/asthma-a1at-deficiency-thiamine/

http://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-causes-problems/

Hope this helps!

thanks, this is not the first time a thiamine deficiency has been connected to my problems. think its time i just get B1 pills and stop messing with this b100 because its not working

[cyclinglady]

These are very trying times.  It is hard to determine what might be provoking your current symptoms without a full follow-up visit to your doctor.  If that is not possible now, focus on a strict clean gluten-free diet that is varied so that you are getting plenty of nutrition.  Taking supplements can be helpful if you actually have a deficiency, but it is best in my non-medical opinion, to find the root cause of those deficiencies.  Actively flaring celiac disease is one obvious reason, but you might have other unknown or yet to be identified illnesses.  

You were just diagnosed last Fall and it takes time to heal.  Seek some medical help when it is possible.  Doctors are offering teleconferencing and that can be a good place to start.  Follow-up care for celiacs is important!  

[knitty kitty]

4 hours ago, MisterSeth said:

thanks, this is not the first time a thiamine deficiency has been connected to my problems. think its time i just get B1 pills and stop messing with this b100 because its not working

I Stayed on the B100 because you need all the eight B vitamins since they work together.  I didn't see benefits until I Increased my thiamine intake to 300mg or above.  And I  made sure I was getting enough magnesium because thiamine needs magnesium.  I also took Niacinamide in addition to niacin.  It's a different form the body can more easily use.  The B vitamins are water soluble and can't be stored in the body long.  The National Institute of Health has found no toxicity level for thiamine.  

Not professional medical advice. 

These are things that helped me.  

 

 

[MisterSeth]

19 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

I Stayed on the B100 because you need all the eight B vitamins since they work together.  I didn't see benefits until I Increased my thiamine intake to 300mg or above.  And I  made sure I was getting enough magnesium because thiamine needs magnesium.  I also took Niacinamide in addition to niacin.  It's a different form the body can more easily use.  The B vitamins are water soluble and can't be stored in the body long.  The National Institute of Health has found no toxicity level for thiamine.  

Not professional medical advice. 

These are things that helped me.  

 

 

not sure how it can be toxic if my damaged guts are absorbing lower amounts of it anyways

[knitty kitty]

You're right, not all of the vitamins you consume will be absorbed.  But even with high dose thiamine, it's not going to cause toxicity just because it's in your system.  Excesses are excreted in urine.  I spread out my thiamine doses throughout the day and with meals.  

While damaged guts are struggling to absorb nutrients, I believe taking supplements to be beneficial.  Yes, the ultimate goal is to get all of the necessary nutrients from foods, but until the gut heals enough to absorb all the nutrients it needs, some extra help from supplements is beneficial in making recovery quicker.  

I would much rather take supplements that speed me along the path of healing than sit around ill for months or years while my body struggles to absorb needed nutrients.  I've done both.  Supplementation is a much better alternative for me.  

[Posterboy]

MisterSeth,

Knitty Kitty has given you good advise....it is form and frequency that matter most...and if it is the fat soluble form of Benfotiamine....you have the extra factor of timing.....

Timing matters...(Benefotiamine) needs food to help it be absorbed better....

Add Benfotiamine to your B-complex with meals or twice a day (Morning and Evening) works well....

And a Magnesium Citrate (always with meals) or a Magnesium Glycinate (anytime) and you will begin to notice a difference in about 3 to 4 weeks and a sustained difference in about 3 to 4 months...

Here is a longer explanation of it...I wrote in a comment on Thiamine...

Absorption happens in two ways...Active and Passive....here is nice article about it...

https://education.seattlepi.com/food-nutrients-bloodstream-osmosis-4574.html

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise.

Posterboy,

[Posterboy]

8 hours ago, MisterSeth said:

i mean im getting provoked by reading about things instead of them happening in front of me. I had like 3 straight days where I wanted to dive down into hell and make sure Jim Jones is still suffering and that kind of thing. Not actually but I was angry about something that happened 52 years ago

MisterSeth,

This research might help you...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276489128_The_Impact_of_Thiamine_Treatment_on_Generalized_Anxiety_Disorder

This fit me to a "T" once....I always worried over even the slighest thing someone said to me or worried it would be "bad" or have a "bad outcome".....I got better and you can too!

You might try some Zinc lozenges too....really help my "Anxiety"....they will become metallic tasting in your mouth when your mouth when you get enough Zinc.

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise...

Posterboy,

[Posterboy]

MisterSeth,

Here is link research that I left off entitled

"Understanding nutrition, depression and mental illnesses"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2738337/

This is why you shouldn't leave off your B-complex but take them morning and evening....

quoting there section on B-complex Vitamins...

B-complex vitamins

"Nutrition and depression are intricately and undeniably linked, as suggested by the mounting evidence by researchers in neuropsychiatry. According to a study reported in Neuropsychobiology,[42] supplementation of nine vitamins, 10 times in excess of normal recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for 1 year improved mood in both men and women. The interesting part was that these changes in mood after a year occurred even though the blood status of nine vitamins reached a plateau after 3 months. This mood improvement was particularly associated with improved vitamin B2 and B6 status. In women, baseline vitamin B1 status was linked with poor mood and an improvement in the same after 3 months was associated with improved mood.

Thiamine is known to modulate cognitive performance particularly in the geriatric population.[43]"

Again I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise.

Posterboy,

[MisterSeth]

i think these are definitely the first things I'm going to do. it makes sense because I have a real anorexia problem (not nervosa) which has probably helped my health a lot those times i was exposed to harmful foods but probably puts me in a constant state of sub-clinical malnourishment. also the anxiety and loss of appetite made me turn to pot, which can have a complication called "cannibinoid hyperremesis syndrome" that essentially causes it to do the opposite of what you'd think and made me even worse. 

the pot initially worked like a charm though, made me grin like an idiot and made me eat lots of food

[MisterSeth]

2 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

You're right, not all of the vitamins you consume will be absorbed.  But even with high dose thiamine, it's not going to cause toxicity just because it's in your system.  Excesses are excreted in urine.  I spread out my thiamine doses throughout the day and with meals.  

While damaged guts are struggling to absorb nutrients, I believe taking supplements to be beneficial.  Yes, the ultimate goal is to get all of the necessary nutrients from foods, but until the gut heals enough to absorb all the nutrients it needs, some extra help from supplements is beneficial in making recovery quicker.  

I would much rather take supplements that speed me along the path of healing than sit around ill for months or years while my body struggles to absorb needed nutrients.  I've done both.  Supplementation is a much better alternative for me.  

yeah i was just saying because i was paranoid about nerve damage and medication instructions so i refused to take a second B100 on any days, when it sounds like I would need to take 5 a day for a month to start overdosing on the niacin and stuff

[knitty kitty]

2 hours ago, MisterSeth said:

i think these are definitely the first things I'm going to do. it makes sense because I have a real anorexia problem (not nervosa) which has probably helped my health a lot those times i was exposed to harmful foods but probably puts me in a constant state of sub-clinical malnourishment. also the anxiety and loss of appetite made me turn to pot, which can have a complication called "cannibinoid hyperremesis syndrome" that essentially causes it to do the opposite of what you'd think and made me even worse. 

the pot initially worked like a charm though, made me grin like an idiot and made me eat lots of food

MisterSeth, 

I hope you find this article enlightening.  ?

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc6741376/__sec1title

Heavy Cannabis Use Associated with Wernicke’s Encephalopathy

[Posterboy]

MisterSeth,

For some reason Knitty's link was broken....

I hope this one works....entitled "Heavy Cannabis Use Associated With Wernicke's Encephalopathy"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31523540/

Posterboy,

[knitty kitty]

Oooh, sorry about that broken link.  Thanks, Posterboy for catching that!

Here it is again.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc6741376/

 

[MisterSeth]

23 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

MisterSeth, 

I hope you find this article enlightening.  ?

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc6741376/__sec1title

Heavy Cannabis Use Associated with Wernicke’s Encephalopathy

scared the s$#& out of me. no i don't have brain damage, seen people who were "perma-fried" though

[MisterSeth]

goosebumps stopped mostly, it was probably CHS. loss of appetite in a job that makes me handle 10-20k kg of freight a day