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Well said, Rinne!

You know, I think that rice flour should have the properties of wheat flour in Rachelville (by the way, I have trouble spelling Rachel like that, my sister spells her name weird)

Anyhoo, that's another job for the glittery purple bats. It's because of their pollenation of the rice that rice flour has gluten properties so that I can make croissants and puff pastry and phyllo dough :P

As part of my last 21 days of gluten eating, I had a GIGANTIC greek meal, and nearly spinached myself because of it! :blink: It was good, and I got this dessert that's usually made with pistachios...

It was made with pecans <_< So now my mouth is itchy, I just took some benadryl. The oral allergy stuff is more annoying than anything, although dr's have told me it can get worse with each exposure. Oh well :rolleyes: It was at least quite tasty, and my last greek pastry for a lifetime :(

At least I can make all that good ole' suthrn food gluten-free, and that's way more important :D


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Rachel--24 Collaborator

Holy Cow ChelsE.....I dont know how you do it! Everytime I read one of your posts having to do with the challenge...I just cringe. You are very BRAVE....I could never ever do a challenge....not even for one day just to satisfy my curiousity. I'm just too damn scared of gluten now. :blink:

I envy all that you're able to eat right now but from what I remember when I was sick and still eating pizza and all the gluteney foods....it just didnt taste good anymore. I think because I was so sick...I remember having major cravings but then when I ate what I was craving I felt gross and sick with a bad taste in my mouth. I was always dizzy and spaced out....I think it would be even WORSE now after being off gluten for a long time. Nope...no way could I do what you're doing. I hope they do a really good job on your next Endo and I hope they give you some answers.

How does your sister spell her name??

Guest Robbin

:) Lisa -Congratulations on getting the corn done. :) I guess from one of my posts the "corn scraping memories" the idea was that I didn't like corn! :D lol. I love it when it is already "put up" and am not facing what you were facing-was it you? Six dozen?!! I remember my dad bringing in 4 clothes baskets full of corn to do and saying he wished there were more. Easy for him-he just picked it!!

Susan -you hate sewing!!? You don't like the hum of the machine, the thrill of cutting patterns, the lovely art of pinning and ironing?! Whaaaa?? Seriously, though I like to sew in moderation. Like a pillow or a pot holder ! Ironing, I hate. :ph34r: Yes, that is a strong emotion, I'm sorry, but there it is :D. My mil used to iron boxer shorts, pillow cases, everything. I think it was a way to handle stress from living with my fil. Imagine it is someone's face on that shirt when you are angry and it might feel good to iron :P

Gimme sugar--I honestly say that, although I don't have much of a drawl. Sugar is kisses in my family too. Also, kiss, kiss, love, love when we say bye. Sounds corny and it is :) !!

Can spinach be used as an adjective? As in, " That spinach-y attitude?" Can you use it like a Jersey type put-down? As in, "Oh, Yeah, Well, spinach to you too and the whole rest of your family!" ?

rinne, rinne, you MUST write!! I will buy anything by you. I agree with Rachel, your words just flowwwww ever so lovely. :D

Dingo--Did you find the golden nugget?

Celia-Cecilia :blink: I am worried about you too. I saw the weather channel tonight (love that Paul Goodloe and Jim Cantore :) ) I hope it all fizzles out before it reaches you. Will add this to my prayer list.

Hey, I was so inspired by the Southern food talk that I made a dinner to remind me of Grandma's cooking-took some green beans, potatoes, onions, and big ole' hunk of ham left over from a spiral sliced one and put it in the pressure cooker. I couldn't resist the green tomatoes outside and -god help me, I will pay dearly for this tomorrow- made fried green tomatoes. (It is so strange that I have always been able to eat ham and bacon, but not pork chops, pork ribs, or pork roast. I don't know why that is. Any ideas?)

Anyway, made the cucumbers Cissie talked about earlier and been missin' Grandma all evening.

It is ungodly hot here today. I think the heat index was 110. My thermometer said 104 at 3:00. It was around 85 at 9 am this morning. Sorry post is so long.

Donna -how many bracelets today?! :)

Andrea-I hope oatmeal is ok for your little one. How are the bee stings?

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Can you use it like a Jersey type put-down? As in, "Oh, Yeah, Well, spinach to you too and the whole rest of your family!" ?

:lol::lol:

Green12 Enthusiast
I thought it was a replacement for the sh-- word since that's what it looked like in the bed. It would take some research to go through this book though to find it!

Just beware Carla, going backwards in Rachelville is a scary concept. Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my!

I love everyone's explanation of "spinach", it's a multipurpose word :lol:

Chelse, I don't know how you do it either, when I ate it for 7 days it didn't even taste good and it made me so much sicker. You are brave indeed.

And about the bellydancing, I agree with Tavi. I think she was the one who suggested you tell your hubby the dancing isn't for you, it's for him ;)

And I think "Gimme some sugar" should be our town motto, anyone? Also remember we don't have brain fog in Rachelville, we have brain freeze due to the abundance of ice cream and ice cram eating (Mango, Patti, and I -and everyone else dairy free- can have fabulous sorbet) and an over all feeling of happiness and joy because of it.

:lol::lol:

Guest Robbin

evie-I forgot to add -southern Iowa is Southern too, remember we are all Southerners here in R'ville! Mango is the MOST Southern way Down Under. :)

penguin, dear girl -oral allergy can indeed become serious--be cautious-one day could be a minor itch-next day major problem. Did you decide on the dancing lessons?

Julie-Gimme some sugar is a great motto!!! Would that be good on a t-shirt, though?! I think an "all over feeling of happiness and joy" should be the name of a new sorbet flavor. Sounds delicious. Rachel and Victor should come up with new flavors and we could all have a name the flavor contest-sort of like Haagen Daas did with their contest on foodnetwork. :) Well, time to turn in--Have a restful night All! :)

rinne Apprentice

Thank you for your kind words. I think I may have said this before, I always wanted to be a writer, when I was a child the worlds writers created gave me a place to escape to. I've just never known what it is that I wanted to say or who I wanted to say it to. What I find here in Rachelville is a place that calls forth my voice and my imagination. I have actually thought more about writing in the last little while but that is as far as I have gone with it.

I see a series of t-shirts, "Oh, Spinach", "Spinach Happens","No Spinach".....anyone?

All this talk of southern food is delicious, and talk is about all I can handle these days :( although I have begun to appreciate just smelling food. :lol: I sat next to the barbecued chicken tonight at a party and did not have a bite, I just inhaled.


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AndreaB Contributor
Andrea-I hope oatmeal is ok for your little one. How are the bee stings?

The bee stings are fine. They stopped hurting yesterday, or maybe even Sunday night. The kids weren't complaining about them.

rinne Apprentice
The bee stings are fine. They stopped hurting yesterday, or maybe even Sunday night. The kids weren't complaining about them.

Andrea, I'm glad to know they are all fine.

And Julie, I'll go for "gimme some sugar" as long as sugar in Rachelville is loaded with nutrients. :lol:

tiredofdoctors Enthusiast

I s'pose y'all aren't talkin 'bout when you see your grandbabies and you tell 'em "now come over here and gimme some suga??" Also -- y'all can't be southern unless you've had chicken-fried steak with milk gravy and sopped it up with skillet cornbread!!!!!!!!

All these southernisms are reminding me of my childhood!! My aunt had a boyfriend who lived out of town -- she made tapes to send to him all the time. She made a tape of me when I was in kindergarden . . . OH MY. I was the biggest HICK you have ever heard in your life! If you guys think I have an accent now (BY THE WAY -- LISA DOESN'T THINK I HAVE AN ACCENT -- JUST SO YOU KNOW . . . . ) you should have heard it back then . . . I don't know that there has been a child who could have had a more slow southern accent than me!! She made copies for my kids, and they are now using it as blackmail!! Holy spinach, it is embarrassing!!

This talk about southern food has to end, folks. I can't take it much more. I want home fried chicken -- the REAL kind -- and homemade potato rolls (I use to use my grandmother's recipe) -- and home-made sage dressing (again, my grandmother's recipe) -- and my mother's incredible apple pie -- complete with BEAUTIFUL lattice-work on the top. She makes the best, flakiest pie crust you have ever eaten in your LIFE. Seriously. I used to get my favorite meal -- fried chicken, green beans, corn, mashed potatoes, and on and on and on for my birthday each year. Now -- I have to change to a different menu. The green beans, corn and mashed potatoes just aren't the same without the fried chicken!

Although, my DH did bring home blueberries and cream again tonight . . . he is a sweetie!! He took Wed., Thurs., & Fri. off just to help me with wedding stuff . . . which is really good because I got a notice that the shoes I ordered will now not be here until August 7 -- two days AFTER the wedding . . . so guess what I'm doing tomorrow??? Good news is that my batteries are in for my wheelchair . . . so I'm going to be He** on wheels again!! Look out Loohavull!!!!

Goodnight residents of Rachelville . . . talk with you soon, my friends!

miamia Rookie
Holy Cow ChelsE.....I dont know how you do it! Everytime I read one of your posts having to do with the challenge...I just cringe. You are very BRAVE....I could never ever do a challenge....not even for one day just to satisfy my curiousity. I'm just too damn scared of gluten now. :blink:

I envy all that you're able to eat right now but from what I remember when I was sick and still eating pizza and all the gluteney foods....it just didnt taste good anymore. I think because I was so sick...I remember having major cravings but then when I ate what I was craving I felt gross and sick with a bad taste in my mouth. I was always dizzy and spaced out....I think it would be even WORSE now after being off gluten for a long time. Nope...no way could I do what you're doing. I hope they do a really good job on your next Endo and I hope they give you some answers.

How does your sister spell her name??

Rachel-

I asked this before I think but I am not sure- hows the keto going for you? How long have you been on it now?It seems like its been awhile since you talked about any major bad reactions- is this true

Miamia

dlp252 Apprentice
here in the Land of Fruits and Nuts, maybe because produce is plentiful year-round, we never did those things. I think it's sad.....because those traditions, tedious as they are (Robbin - don't vomit at the sight of an ear of corn!), allow you to reap thebenefits and rewards during the long cold winters. I am jealous....my mom made jams and jellies and has canned some peaches, but that's about it. I am jealous of you guys that had farm chores and the aforementioned food chores - it builds character and teaches important lessons early in life. DAng, a whole day of ear-shucking and all of it.....very taxing but YOU will be eating your delicious creamed corn in the winter, and I will not! :angry:

Posting prematurely....

:lol: Land of the Fruits and Nuts...in more ways than one!!!! :lol: I am jealous too...I was born and raised in California, so no real traditions or isms here.

Donna -how many bracelets today?! :)

Only three, lol. I had to go out to singing practice, but I've got one all laid out ready to string. :lol:

(Mango, Patti, and I -and everyone else dairy free- can have fabulous sorbet) and an over all feeling of happiness and joy because of it.

Works for me...I am LOVING my mango sorbet!!! I don't eat in the mass quantities that Rachel does but I have it everyday, lol. :lol:

Daxin Explorer

Lynne -- I supposed milk gravy would have to be made w/ cornstartch in our littel cult farm?

Rinne -- I have never heard the definition of a word made quite so eloquent before. I agree you should be a writer.

Cecile -- I hope the storm is not as bad as they are saying, and that you and your family will be fine.

Well, DD just woke me up too early, and that's about all I can remember for now after 4 pages of reading. Talk to you all later.

dlp252 Apprentice
Hi everyone!

Well, we have tropical storm Chris on it's way, it's heading tward Puerto Rico now and will be going to the Virgin Isands in about 3 days, at this time it's expected to be a hurricane... good googly moogly here we go again.... :blink:

Right now it's 60 mph and is gaining strength.

:o Oh my!!!!

Guest Robbin
:ph34r: Hi guys, sick as a DOG since 2 am. I knew I would pay, but this is crazy. I cannot believe how bad I feel from just one measly meal. I guess either the ham or the fried green tomatoes probably both. I THOUGHT ham didn't make me sick. The ham was in the freezer from Memorial Day, but I'm the only one feeling like well, SPINACH....I am so peed off with this whole *spinach* illness thing. I am JUST SO SICK OF BEING SICK. Does anyone else get really ticked off and sick of it all and just want to curl up and cry in frustration? What am I saying, of course you all do. I am just venting. Oh, well, I wasn't going to do much today anyway--too hot. Thanks for letting me vent. I am going to go crawl back to bed. Took another immodium at 7 so I only have one left I can take. I'll check in later, hopefully. --I do NOT deserve any kind of nice words, I brought this spinach on myself. Dh pretty much said that too this morning :( Nice, I needed that Mr. Spinach head. (I didn't say that to him, but that is what I thought) Ok, that was too obscene, sorry :) Too many curse words here. Hope you all have a great day. I am going to get some sugar from my dog. (what do newbies think when they read this stuff?!!!)
nikki-uk Enthusiast

Not a good start to the day :(

Hubby's been up most of the night having been 'glutened' by an ice lolly of all things <_<

He always says if he's going to be glutened he'd rather eat pizza.

He's still suffering with stomach/back ache today.

2 out of 3 kids have gone down with a bug (high temp,headaches,vomiting)

Oh joy!Another heinious task clearing that up!

My cat,obviously noting I was a tad stressed decided to bring me a lovely present-a dead bird no less.

More joyous clearing up.

Definitely got my Marigolds on today (rubber gloves) :angry:

Bit of a culture gap there...pants being trousers in the US and pants being underwear in the UK

Sticking to the 'cultural differences' theme,here's another misunderstanding....

My hubby's brother lives in Australia -his wife is Australian.

She's always sending us little goody bags of typically Ozzy stuff.

I read her letter before opening the parcel,in the letter she said ''I hope you like the thongs''

Now in the UK a thong is an item of ladies underwear (think G-string)

I thought it was a bit odd she was sending me knickers (a bit personal maybe!)

I opened the parcel-and out fell a pair of flip flops!! :lol: (sandals)

We had a good laugh about that :lol::lol:

Back to the grind-hope you're all fine and dandy today.

;)

Robbin-hope you feel better soon!!

dlp252 Apprentice
:ph34r: Hi guys, sick as a DOG since 2 am. I knew I would pay, but this is crazy. I cannot believe how bad I feel from just one measly meal. I guess either the ham or the fried green tomatoes probably both. I THOUGHT ham didn't make me sick. The ham was in the freezer from Memorial Day, but I'm the only one feeling like well, SPINACH....I am so peed off with this whole *spinach* illness thing. I am JUST SO SICK OF BEING SICK. Does anyone else get really ticked off and sick of it all and just want to curl up and cry in frustration? What am I saying, of course you all do. I am just venting. Oh, well, I wasn't going to do much today anyway--too hot. Thanks for letting me vent. I am going to go crawl back to bed. Took another immodium at 7 so I only have one left I can take. I'll check in later, hopefully. --I do NOT deserve any kind of nice words, I brought this spinach on myself. Dh pretty much said that too this morning :( Nice, I needed that Mr. Spinach head. (I didn't say that to him, but that is what I thought) Ok, that was too obscene, sorry :) Too many curse words here. Hope you all have a great day. I am going to get some sugar from my dog. (what do newbies think when they read this stuff?!!!)

Of course you deserve nice words...we all do stuff we know we shouldn't. Sometimes we do it to test the waters and sometimes we just do it because we want to. I've done it with the stupid Krispy Creme cream filled donut a few 100 pages back. You do not deserve spinach! :lol::lol: (By-the-way, does DH know the meaning of SPINACH, lol, I'm thinking you could have called him that and he wouldn't have known exactly what you were saying...oops, I mean, it's a good thing you didn't call him that.) :lol:

I AM sorry you're sick! Take it easy and rest up.

Rikki Tikki Explorer

Good morning me fello rachelites, I have a question. :blink: I did something really stupid yesterday, I don't even know why. I cheated and knew what I was doing but did it anyway, thinking the worst I would have was pain, the D but that's not the worst. I started throwing up and that was never one of my symptoms. It has just been awful :( It was a stupid donut, can't imagine what posessed me, they were at work just as they have been many times before, but I just didn't resist.

Could this be a symptom of the celiac? I have no fever, I am just really sick. Still feel really sick to my stomach, but could it be it's a new symptom because for almost 3 years not a drop of wheat has passed my lips, and maybe once in a while gluten in the form of something I didn't know was gluten might of, but this was probably a full on assault of the worst kind :unsure::unsure:

Is thre anything I can do? I am going to a concert tonight and really need for this to pass :o

dlp252 Apprentice

Wow Tavi! I'm so sorry. I used to feel nauseated a lot...I always thought it was because of my constant sinus infections and the drip associated with it, but now I'm not so sure. I did feel nauseated after the Krispy Creme incident, but actually never threw up. I think I had some cross contamination issue a few weeks ago after eating at a place that I eat at every week...I am usually okay, but felt nauseated after that one time. I don't know what you could do that would work quickly...I usually don't throw up, so I never have anything around for it.

penguin Community Regular
Holy Cow ChelsE.....I dont know how you do it! Everytime I read one of your posts having to do with the challenge...I just cringe. You are very BRAVE....I could never ever do a challenge....not even for one day just to satisfy my curiousity. I'm just too damn scared of gluten now. :blink:

I envy all that you're able to eat right now but from what I remember when I was sick and still eating pizza and all the gluteney foods....it just didnt taste good anymore. I think because I was so sick...I remember having major cravings but then when I ate what I was craving I felt gross and sick with a bad taste in my mouth. I was always dizzy and spaced out....I think it would be even WORSE now after being off gluten for a long time. Nope...no way could I do what you're doing. I hope they do a really good job on your next Endo and I hope they give you some answers.

How does your sister spell her name??

It doesn't taste good to me anymore either, but since I have this "YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO EAT THIS AGAIN" feeling looming overhead, I'm eating it all anyway. I think I need to eat 50 flour tortillas a day for the next 3 weeks, those spinach me the worst.

Insult to injury - I always wake up feeling sick after eating out. Blech. Thanks for the kind words :)

Oh...My sister spells her name Raechel, my mom says she spelled it that way because she was 17 and thought it looked cool :rolleyes:

:lol::lol:

:lol::lol: indeed!

penguin, dear girl -oral allergy can indeed become serious--be cautious-one day could be a minor itch-next day major problem. Did you decide on the dancing lessons?

Still working on DH about the lessons...I'll get them eventually! Also, I never intentionally eat pecans, walnuts, and the like for that reason. I think this was the first time I deliberately ate nuts in a couple of years, and now I remember why :rolleyes:

I s'pose y'all aren't talkin 'bout when you see your grandbabies and you tell 'em "now come over here and gimme some suga??" Also -- y'all can't be southern unless you've had chicken-fried steak with milk gravy and sopped it up with skillet cornbread!!!!!!!!

talk about southern food has to end, folks. I can't take it much more. I want home fried chicken -- the REAL kind -- and homemade potato rolls (I use to use my grandmother's recipe) -- and home-made sage dressing (again, my grandmother's recipe) -- and my mother's incredible apple pie -- complete with BEAUTIFUL lattice-work on the top. She makes the best, flakiest pie crust you have ever eaten in your LIFE. Seriously. I used to get my favorite meal -- fried chicken, green beans, corn, mashed potatoes, and on and on and on for my birthday each year. Now -- I have to change to a different menu. The green beans, corn and mashed potatoes just aren't the same without the fried chicken!

Mmmm...chicken fried steak with cream gravy and mashed taters..mmmm! I'll have to make that soon...

Why can't you have fried chicken? I made my great grandmother's fried chicken on the 4th of July and used brown rice flour, potato starch, and corn starch. Couldn't tell the difference! We use the buttermilk and dredge method, I don't know if your family does it different. Seriously, it turned out EXACTLY THE SAME. That flour blend makes great gravy, too :)

Good morning me fello rachelites, I have a question. :blink: I did something really stupid yesterday, I don't even know why. I cheated and knew what I was doing but did it anyway, thinking the worst I would have was pain, the D but that's not the worst. I started throwing up and that was never one of my symptoms. It has just been awful :( It was a stupid donut, can't imagine what posessed me, they were at work just as they have been many times before, but I just didn't resist.

Could this be a symptom of the celiac? I have no fever, I am just really sick. Still feel really sick to my stomach, but could it be it's a new symptom because for almost 3 years not a drop of wheat has passed my lips, and maybe once in a while gluten in the form of something I didn't know was gluten might of, but this was probably a full on assault of the worst kind :unsure::unsure:

Is thre anything I can do? I am going to a concert tonight and really need for this to pass :o

Sounds like your body rejecting the hell out of that donut. I hope you feel better before the concert :)

AndreaB Contributor

Robbin & Tavi,

Hope you two feel better soon and that you, Tavi will be well for the concert.

Just wanted to say "hi all". I am going to make a concerted effort to shave much time from this forum which means I may not always have time to do more than say "hi".

Hope you all have a great (or better) day. :P

Daxin Explorer
:ph34r: Hi guys, sick as a DOG since 2 am. I knew I would pay, but this is crazy. I cannot believe how bad I feel from just one measly meal. I guess either the ham or the fried green tomatoes probably both. I THOUGHT ham didn't make me sick. The ham was in the freezer from Memorial Day, but I'm the only one feeling like well, SPINACH....I am so peed off with this whole *spinach* illness thing. I am JUST SO SICK OF BEING SICK. Does anyone else get really ticked off and sick of it all and just want to curl up and cry in frustration? What am I saying, of course you all do. I am just venting. Oh, well, I wasn't going to do much today anyway--too hot. Thanks for letting me vent. I am going to go crawl back to bed. Took another immodium at 7 so I only have one left I can take. I'll check in later, hopefully. --I do NOT deserve any kind of nice words, I brought this spinach on myself. Dh pretty much said that too this morning :( Nice, I needed that Mr. Spinach head. (I didn't say that to him, but that is what I thought) Ok, that was too obscene, sorry :) Too many curse words here. Hope you all have a great day. I am going to get some sugar from my dog. (what do newbies think when they read this stuff?!!!)

Robbin -- I hope you feel better soon. It is never fun being sick, especially when we haveno idea why. As far as newbies reading this....how patient would they have to be to read a thread that is 277 pages longs and at this point has very little to do with the actual title. :lol:

Good morning me fello rachelites, I have a question. :blink: I did something really stupid yesterday, I don't even know why. I cheated and knew what I was doing but did it anyway, thinking the worst I would have was pain, the D but that's not the worst. I started throwing up and that was never one of my symptoms. It has just been awful :( It was a stupid donut, can't imagine what posessed me, they were at work just as they have been many times before, but I just didn't resist.

Could this be a symptom of the celiac? I have no fever, I am just really sick. Still feel really sick to my stomach, but could it be it's a new symptom because for almost 3 years not a drop of wheat has passed my lips, and maybe once in a while gluten in the form of something I didn't know was gluten might of, but this was probably a full on assault of the worst kind :unsure::unsure:

Is thre anything I can do? I am going to a concert tonight and really need for this to pass :o

Tavi -- I have been known to get VERY sick to my stomach from a "glutening" I hope it passes quickly and you being to feel better. Don't feel bad about cheating (side note...my wife says when she goes to work and has a big gooey cinnamon bun, she is "cheating" on me :rolleyes: ) we all have weak moments in our lives. The awesome thing is that in Rachelville, we are all very non-judgemental and will still support you to the fullest. :)^_^

miamia Rookie
Robbin & Tavi,

Hope you two feel better soon and that you, Tavi will be well for the concert.

Just wanted to say "hi all". I am going to make a concerted effort to shave much time from this forum which means I may not always have time to do more than say "hi".

Hope you all have a great (or better) day. :P

Andrea-

We need you!!

miamia

CarlaB Enthusiast
She's always sending us little goody bags of typically Ozzy stuff.

I read her letter before opening the parcel,in the letter she said ''I hope you like the thongs''

Now in the UK a thong is an item of ladies underwear (think G-string)

I thought it was a bit odd she was sending me knickers (a bit personal maybe!)

I opened the parcel-and out fell a pair of flip flops!! :lol: (sandals)

We had a good laugh about that :lol::lol:

Back to the grind-hope you're all fine and dandy today.

;)

Robbin-hope you feel better soon!!

We used to call flip-flops thongs when I was a kid. Now thongs are underwear. I was at the YMCA and this lady was talking about how her daughter had been in the coed sauna out by the pool and had caught her thong in the door. It wasn't until days later that I realized she was talking about her daughter's shoe and not her underwear! I was wondering for days how you'd catch your underwear in a door of a coed sauna! :lol:

Good morning me fello rachelites, I have a question. :blink: I did something really stupid yesterday, I don't even know why. I cheated and knew what I was doing but did it anyway, thinking the worst I would have was pain, the D but that's not the worst. I started throwing up and that was never one of my symptoms. It has just been awful :( It was a stupid donut, can't imagine what posessed me, they were at work just as they have been many times before, but I just didn't resist.

Could this be a symptom of the celiac? I have no fever, I am just really sick. Still feel really sick to my stomach, but could it be it's a new symptom because for almost 3 years not a drop of wheat has passed my lips, and maybe once in a while gluten in the form of something I didn't know was gluten might of, but this was probably a full on assault of the worst kind :unsure::unsure:

Is thre anything I can do? I am going to a concert tonight and really need for this to pass :o

Sorry you're feeling bad, maybe with throwing it up, you won't have as much of it in your system to digest and do damage. Let's think positive, you have a concert to go to tonight! Who are you seeing?

rinne Apprentice

Robbin and Tavi, so sorry you are feeling bad. I drink club soda, it makes me burp, and burping helps me feel better. Ginger tea, fresh ginger sliced thin and simmered for 5 or 10 minutes also helps. I thought I read Vitamin C helped too but I haven't tried that.

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    • suek54
      Thank you all for your advice and the dermatitis herpetiformis article. The latter made me realise I had stopped taking my antihistamine, which I will restart today. The Dapsone has cleared the rash entirely but I still get quite a bit itching, absolutely nothing to see though. I know its notoriously hard to clear and its still relatively early days for me.  The iodine issue is very interesting. I do eat quite a bit of salt because I have Addison's disease and sodium retention is an issue. I also have autoimmune hypothyroidism, not sure how a low iodine diet would play into that? Because of my Addison's I am totally steroid dependent, I take steroids 4 x daily and cannot mount any defence against inflammation. I need to increase my meds for that. Now that I know what is wrong I can do just that if Im having a bad day. Life is very sweet, just so damn complicated sometimes! Hey ho, onwards. Thank you again for your advice.  
    • trents
      So, essentially all of the nutrition in the food we eat is absorbed through the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestinal track that is damaged by celiac disease. This villous lining is composed of billions of finger-like projections that create a huge amount of surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the celiac person, when gluten is consumed, it triggers an autoimmune reaction in this area which, of course, generates inflammation. The antibodies connected with this inflammation is what the celiac blood tests are designed to detect but this inflammation, over time, wears down the finger-like projections of the villous lining. Of course, when this proceeds for an extended period of time, greatly reduces the absorption efficiency of the villous lining and often results in many and various nutrient deficiency-related health issues. Classic examples would be osteoporosis and iron deficiency. But there are many more. Low D3 levels is a well-known celiac-caused nutritional deficiency. So is low B12. All the B vitamins in fact. Magnesium, zinc, etc.  Celiac disease can also cause liver inflammation. You mention elevated ALP levels. Elevated liver enzymes over a period of 13 years was what led to my celiac diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes normalized. I had elevated AST and ALT. The development of sensitivities to other food proteins is very common in the celiac population. Most common cross reactive foods are dairy and oats but eggs, soy and corn are also relatively common offenders. Lactose intolerance is also common in the celiac population because of damage to the SB lining.  Eggs when they are scrambled or fried give me a gut ache. But when I poach them, they do not. The steam and heat of poaching causes a hydrolysis process that alters the protein in the egg. They don't bother me in baked goods either so I assume the same process is at work. I bought a plastic poacher on Amazon to make poaching very easy. All this to say that many of the issues you describe could be caused by celiac disease. 
    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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