Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[dlp252]

Gluten causes inflammation and I am thinking all the while starving the body of nutrients, the lack of nutrients leads to the adrenal system being depressed and a lack of true rest, without rest we turn to those very things which inflame us because the initial inflammation is felt as agitation and we interpret that as energy. What do you think?

Wow, sounds like exactly what has happened with me.

I am having an angioedema reaction and I have a big one on my hand so might not be around because its hard to type

Sooo sorry Julie, hope you are feeling better today (haven't read the rest of the pages yet, so premature post).

Glad to read all the updates and find everyone is better. I've been off for a few days fending of some NASTY Gastro virus here in our house. Our son was out of commission for 6 days, and now our hospital public health oficer says our town has had a small outbreak of Norwalk virus. Hope the baby does not get it.

Egads! Definitely hope the little one (or any of you) doesn't get it!!

[dlp252]

Hi Claire, welcome!

Susan, the sugar stimulates the adrenals like caffeine does. When they're not working right, we tend to want to use exercise, caffeine, sugar and alcohol to stimulate them. Eventually they get fatigued. Put that on top of stress and chronic illness and they get very fatigued. For me, I took care of the stress and gluten intolerance, but now my adrenals need rest so they can go back to where they were before when I was vibrant and energetic. At first getting off sugar is very hard. After two months without all the bad stuff, I am starting to feel what it's like to have normal adrenal function and I'm realizing that it's the first time in my life that I've had it!

Thanks Carla! I needed to read this today. Had a slight meltdown a little while ago, lo. I bought the book Adrenal Fatigue: 21st Century.... yesterday and have read a big portion of it, but haven't gotten to the diet portion yet, lol, so am so happy whenever you post tidbits like this. I am totally eating WRONG for let my adrenals rest, lol. The stress is probably going to be with me a while so I think I'd best get busy on the stull I can control easily first.

[AndreaB]

Hi Donna!

When's your appointment this week?

Good to see you here on the weekends again.

How's Susan doing? I see you.

Are you feeling better Judy?

[DingoGirl]

Does anyone else think newbie lurkers might come to this thread and wonder what the heck we're actually doing when we talk about these quick semi drive-bys? lol I think we should bring back spinach...

SPINACH....

what about SCIENTIFICNESS, which is a word we use a lot, and relevation....do you think they think we are really stupid?

I am totally eating WRONG for let my adrenals rest, lol. The stress is probably going to be with me a while so I think I'd best get busy on the stull I can control easily first.

donna..... me too....(getting better though). Sorry about your meltdown.....hope you're okay

[dlp252]

Hi to everyone...glad Susan is feeling better today!

Hi Donna!

When's your appointment this week?

Good to see you here on the weekends again.

Hi Mom, lol! I have an appointment with the HN doctors tomorrow and an appointment with the mercury dentist on Wednesday for my first removal. Forgot to ask him what he uses instead of amalgam and whether the test to make sure THAT stuff is compatible, lol.

what about SCIENTIFICNESS, which is a word we use a lot, and relevation....do you think they think we are really stupid?

donna..... me too....(getting better though). Sorry about your meltdown.....hope you're okay

Either really stupid or aliens, lol. Oh, wait, shhhhh, don't tell anyone, lol. Yep, I'm better now. Had a little crying session on my knees and all is well. Momentary downness.

[happygirl]

Hope you are all having a great night.

[AndreaB]

Love your new pic Laura.

Donna, Laura is right. It's ok to cry. We all need that once in awhile....sometimes more than that. The important part is to pick yourself back up and continue on. You are seeing doctors who can make a difference in your life and I'm excited for you.

I will wait for updates on Monday and Wednedsay.

[dlp252]

Thank you both!!

[Mango04]

what about SCIENTIFICNESS, which is a word we use a lot, and relevation....do you think they think we are really stupid?

No, I think they think we're really BRILLIANT. hehe we know all these magical words that aren't even in the dictionary...

[Rachel--24]

Donna-hugs to you. The important thing is not that you cry, but that you get back up and keep plugging on. xoxo

I agree....crying is good....it can be healing.

As long as we get up and keep going we're gonna get to a better place....I know we'll all get there soon enough.

I've cried a couple times this weekend but its all good now...keep plugging along.

what about SCIENTIFICNESS, which is a word we use a lot, and relevation....do you think they think we are really stupid?

ROFL....

Ummmm....its a HUGE possibility!

Hehe....for all the newbies...we are not really stupid...I promise....we are highly intelligent beings.

[DingoGirl]

Hehe....for all the newbies...we are not really stupid...I promise....we are highly intelligent beings.

gaaaaaaaaaaaaah ha ha ha yeah, highly intelligent because it is suspected that some among us are ALIENS or, at least CARRYING aliens

[CarlaB]

Hi Claire, welcome!

Thanks Carla! I needed to read this today. Had a slight meltdown a little while ago, lo. I bought the book Adrenal Fatigue: 21st Century.... yesterday and have read a big portion of it, but haven't gotten to the diet portion yet, lol, so am so happy whenever you post tidbits like this. I am totally eating WRONG for let my adrenals rest, lol. The stress is probably going to be with me a while so I think I'd best get busy on the stull I can control easily first.

Sorry about your meltdown ... it's too bad the stress is here to stay, but you're right that you need to be doing everything else you can. I still need to buy that book, I read a different one that was also good.

The diet is pretty simple, in theory, not necessarily applying it . Several small meals all featuring protein, first one in the morning because your adrenals are trying to get going. Most people with adrenal fatigue, prefer to not eat in the morning, but it's important. No sugar, alcohol, or caffeine. Limit fruit because of the sugar. No hard exercise, only relaxing exercise. Lots of rest, to bed by 10. It's amazing how much of a difference these changes have made.

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Hi, Susan, how are you doing?

I know things get overwhelming way too often, but hang in there anyway, okay? I know right after I figured out that I had a gluten problem, I got hit by a car and tore up my shoulder (which I very much need!). I remember sobbing to my husband that I could deal with one or theother, but not both at once. He, being a man (although wonderful in all other ways), was no help whatsoever.

But after about 2 weeks, not only did I feel like I could deal with it, but that it wasn't as difficult as I'd thought. A pain in the butt, yes. But I was sure it was going to be IMPOSSIBLE.

You can conquer all this. You are younger and cleverer than I (you should have just seen how many minutes it took me just now to figure out how to spell, "cleverer"--I kept putting an extra "er" on the end and wondering why it didn't look right), and you are a brilliant writer. Put all this into a book and you'll be the next Amy Tan! You are an inspiration to all of us.

Besides, you've got every reader of this thread rooting for you and sending you lots of positive energy!

[CarlaB]

Besides, you've got every reader of this thread rooting for you and sending you lots of positive energy!

She's got all our negative energy, too!!! It's all directed to the Bulldogs!!!

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Correction: SHE doesn't have the negative energy--the Bulldogs do! (Boo, Bulldogs.)

[Rachel--24]

He, being a man (although wonderful in all other ways), was no help whatsoever.

Sorry if you didnt mean to be funny but I found this pretty humorous.

Hehe....still laughing

Oh...and "cleverer"....more giggles....

Correction: SHE doesn't have the negative energy--the Bulldogs do! (Boo, Bulldogs.)

Yeah....BOOO Bulldogs!!! We hope the Bulldogs NEVER win!!

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Sorry if you didnt mean to be funny but I found this pretty humorous.

That's okay--I did mean to be funny. Humor keeps from clobbering him at times like that.

Yeah....BOOO Bulldogs!!! We hope the Bulldogs NEVER win!!

Absolutely! BOO bulldogs! (Um...who ARE the bulldogs, anyway?)

[Rachel--24]

Absolutely! BOO bulldogs! (Um...who ARE the bulldogs, anyway?)

ROFL

Ummm...I think a football team???

Yeah...I'm pretty sure....I recall Julie having a very shockingly detailed post about football and it was in the midst of all this BOOing of the Bulldogs.

So a football team...Yep...Regis....thats my FINAL answer.

I'm a baseball fan myself....never got into football.

[DingoGirl]

She's got all our negative energy, too!!! It's all directed to the Bulldogs!!!

ha ha ha ha - - - that's our local team that the man who broke my heart loves WAAAAY too much....and they lost again 38 to 6....thanks, guys!

Yes - it was Julie with the talk of football-ness...... But we forgave her

Alison, I am absolutely touched by your kind words. Last night was a rough one, today was much better. Tummy not hurting, got the heating pad, ibuprofen, went to mom's and watched Food Channel and HGTV, had lots of laughs......very relaxing day and the pain in neck is so much better now. wow - you did have a double-whammy with Celiac dx and car accident.....and look how you made it! I thought I would die with my own double-whammy at beginning of this year - Celiac dx and the breakup right at same time....but am somehow still here. Not as clever-er as you think, though...everyone is noticing how forgetful I am and how scrambled my brain is. Seriously. That is my biggest concern, currently....it is hard to describe the constant lapses in brain function. I am worried..... this does not bode well for the future.

Off to bed. nighty-night, everybody.

[rinne]

Just passing by on my way to exhaustion, so tired tonight after the party.

Donna, I am thinking about you.

Hello to everyone.

[miamia]

Hi to everyone...glad Susan is feeling better today!

Hi Mom, lol! I have an appointment with the HN doctors tomorrow and an appointment with the mercury dentist on Wednesday for my first removal. Forgot to ask him what he uses instead of amalgam and whether the test to make sure THAT stuff is compatible, lol.

Either really stupid or aliens, lol. Oh, wait, shhhhh, don't tell anyone, lol. Yep, I'm better now. Had a little crying session on my knees and all is well. Momentary downness.

Donna-

it sounds like you have been going to so many appointments lately that alone could be contributing to why you had a meltdown.!! I have been really on edge, emotional lately- maybe its the change of season and we are all being affected- who knows. Well I hope you are well today and your drs appts go well

Miamia

ha ha ha ha - - - that's our local team that the man who broke my heart loves WAAAAY too much....and they lost again 38 to 6....thanks, guys!

Yes - it was Julie with the talk of football-ness...... But we forgave her

Alison, I am absolutely touched by your kind words. Last night was a rough one, today was much better. Tummy not hurting, got the heating pad, ibuprofen, went to mom's and watched Food Channel and HGTV, had lots of laughs......very relaxing day and the pain in neck is so much better now. wow - you did have a double-whammy with Celiac dx and car accident.....and look how you made it! I thought I would die with my own double-whammy at beginning of this year - Celiac dx and the breakup right at same time....but am somehow still here. Not as clever-er as you think, though...everyone is noticing how forgetful I am and how scrambled my brain is. Seriously. That is my biggest concern, currently....it is hard to describe the constant lapses in brain function. I am worried..... this does not bode well for the future.

Off to bed. nighty-night, everybody.

ok susan we do have alot in common yesturda I was feeling like sh... and I went to moms and we watched the food network- some weird inane cartoon cake competition - it was so ridiculous that I was able to zone out and forget how I felt.

[jerseyangel]

'Mornin everyone

Thanks Carla for the explanation about sugar/adrenals. I know that I have a problem with them--the Kinesiologist had me taking suppliments with bovine adrenals, but I just felt uncomfortable taking them. If I could just stop the sugar--I'm doing everything else--lifestyle-wise. I really don't eat a lot of sugar at all, but have not cut it out completely.

Donna, Sometimes things just have to come to a head. You've been processing so much lately, it's no wonder it all got to you. I think crying is necessary and helpful sometimes. I hope today is a better one for you

Susan, Sounds like the "p.j. party" at your mom's was just what you needed. Hope you're feeling calmer today, the donut reaction has let up. The football gods were cooperating, too

Mango--So nice to see you posting again! We miss you So, you're tempted to join us beef eaters??

Hi Miamia--How are you today? You're in my thoughts often

Hi Rachel--Glad last week is behind you! You asked about fibroids--they don't go away by themselves, except sometimes after menopause. They don't always hurt or cause symptoms, though. I have one that is quite large (8 cm) and the doctor is monitoring the situation with ultrasound and by my symptoms. It's strange--it was at 2 cm in 2004 and I was having a lot of pain then, now that it's grown, I'm not having any pain at all (knock wood!) . Since I'm on the brink of menopause, I'm hoping it will stay quiet, and then just shrink away.... The good news is that they're benign, so if it dosen't cause you any problems (heavy bleeding/pain), you can just live with them.

Julie--If you're reading and not posting because of your hand, I'm sending get-well wishes your way

Laura, I'm so glad you have Eric home with you for a few days!

Hi Andrea and everyone else

[dlp252]

Sorry about your meltdown ... it's too bad the stress is here to stay, but you're right that you need to be doing everything else you can. I still need to buy that book, I read a different one that was also good.

The diet is pretty simple, in theory, not necessarily applying it . Several small meals all featuring protein, first one in the morning because your adrenals are trying to get going. Most people with adrenal fatigue, prefer to not eat in the morning, but it's important. No sugar, alcohol, or caffeine. Limit fruit because of the sugar. No hard exercise, only relaxing exercise. Lots of rest, to bed by 10. It's amazing how much of a difference these changes have made.

Thanks so much Carla...the exercise thing too...I didn't think of that, but because of the fatigue I've cut way down on the intensity, but probably not enough. I've been using the treadmills here at work in the last couple of weeks because I haven't felt well, and felt like it would be easy to stop if I felt bad (when you're outside walking and start to feel bad, you've got to turn around and walk all the way back, lol). But, I've been walking pretty fast and have used the incline a little which is probably just too much right now. Perhaps I need to rethink what I'm doing.

I eat in the mornings but I usually lay around in bed for a while cuz I'm so darned tired when I wake up, lol, THEN I jump in the shower and blow my hair dry...I eat right after that but it can take me well over the 1st hour after I wake up. I think I just need to get up when I wake up for a while, or maybe keep a snack by my bed.

I've also been binging on sugar and candy and have been drinking EXPRESSO in the mornings to wake up! Yikes!

The two good things I do is no alcohol and I have been eating 5-6 small meals everyday for years.

What was the book you read?

She's got all our negative energy, too!!! It's all directed to the Bulldogs!!!

Donna, I am thinking about you.

Thank you! And me you, lol!

Donna-

it sounds like you have been going to so many appointments lately that alone could be contributing to why you had a meltdown.!! I have been really on edge, emotional lately- maybe its the change of season and we are all being affected- who knows. Well I hope you are well today and your drs appts go well

Thanks Mia! You may be right! It's great to finally find some doctors who care, but I have to admit that keeping all these appointments IS a little stressful. I think that will get better soon though...it's hard in the beginning because they need to establish some sort of baseline to find out where I am, but I think it will settle down shortly and I'll be able to go less often. I'm not going to make any other dental appointments until January...this one this week is a two parter, so I'll have one more after this week to finish what is started on Wednesday.

I've been so emotional too! The change of season just might have something to do with it too...I usually LOVE fall, but that still doesn't mean it isn't affecting me, lol. Work is just really dragging me down too and I just don't see that improving any time soon unfortunately.

Donna, Sometimes things just have to come to a head. You've been processing so much lately, it's no wonder it all got to you. I think crying is necessary and helpful sometimes. I hope today is a better one for you

Thanks! Was feeling pretty decent til I got to work, lol. I don't think ANYTHING can change that.

Julie--If you're reading and not posting because of your hand, I'm sending get-well wishes your way

DITTO!!

[CarlaB]

'Mornin everyone

Thanks Carla for the explanation about sugar/adrenals. I know that I have a problem with them--the Kinesiologist had me taking suppliments with bovine adrenals, but I just felt uncomfortable taking them. If I could just stop the sugar--I'm doing everything else--lifestyle-wise. I really don't eat a lot of sugar at all, but have not cut it out completely.

Take the adrenals ... I do, it helps. It's gross to think about, but I also take glandular thryroid and have for years. Once yours start working on their own, you can wean off it, but I feel so much better since taking them -- and I was hesitant, too -- that I recommend taking them if you were told they'd help.

Thanks so much Carla...the exercise thing too...I didn't think of that, but because of the fatigue I've cut way down on the intensity, but probably not enough. I've been using the treadmills here at work in the last couple of weeks because I haven't felt well, and felt like it would be easy to stop if I felt bad (when you're outside walking and start to feel bad, you've got to turn around and walk all the way back, lol). But, I've been walking pretty fast and have used the incline a little which is probably just too much right now. Perhaps I need to rethink what I'm doing.

I eat in the mornings but I usually lay around in bed for a while cuz I'm so darned tired when I wake up, lol, THEN I jump in the shower and blow my hair dry...I eat right after that but it can take me well over the 1st hour after I wake up. I think I just need to get up when I wake up for a while, or maybe keep a snack by my bed.

I've also been binging on sugar and candy and have been drinking EXPRESSO in the mornings to wake up! Yikes!

The two good things I do is no alcohol and I have been eating 5-6 small meals everyday for years.

What was the book you read?

You are doing just what I was doing .... laying around and not getting up, stimulating the adrenals with caffeine, sugar and cardio!!! Eating right when you get up would be good. When you stop the caffeine, it's difficult. The book actually says that it's dangerous to stop caffeine, sugar, and everything else cold turkey, but I did before I read that!! She goes through a formula of how to cut back on caffeine.

I am doing no cardio at all right now, except some light walking. Just stretching type exercise and some light strength training. Then I eat immediately afterward to keep the adrenals from being stimulated.

The book was Tired of Being Tired by Jesse Lynn Hanley, M.D. There's another one I haven't read that I can't remember the title of either, but it's something like adrenal fatigue: the 21st century ... something or other.

[dlp252]

Take the adrenals ... I do, it helps. It's gross to think about, but I also take glandular thryroid and have for years. Once yours start working on their own, you can wean off it, but I feel so much better since taking them -- and I was hesitant, too -- that I recommend taking them if you were told they'd help.

You are doing just what I was doing .... laying around and not getting up, stimulating the adrenals with caffeine, sugar and cardio!!! Eating right when you get up would be good. When you stop the caffeine, it's difficult. The book actually says that it's dangerous to stop caffeine, sugar, and everything else cold turkey, but I did before I read that!! She goes through a formula of how to cut back on caffeine.

I am doing no cardio at all right now, except some light walking. Just stretching type exercise and some light strength training. Then I eat immediately afterward to keep the adrenals from being stimulated.

The book was Tired of Being Tired by Jesse Lynn Hanley, M.D. There's another one I haven't read that I can't remember the title of either, but it's something like adrenal fatigue: the 21st century ... something or other.

Thanks Carla! I do light weight training too...one body part per day for 6 days a week. I'm going to look for "Tired of Being Tired" too. The adrenal fatigue: the 21st century....is the one I'm reading now. I go back today to finish my "interview" with the internist...and am bringing all my past labs so she can see that, then I think she'll order some more tests. The book I'm reading had some home tests to do, one of which is a blood pressure test...the internist did that test Friday in her office and my blood pressure dropped at least 10 points when I stood up. I did the eye test at home...where you shine a light across the eye in a darkened room...I could watch my iris struggling to stay closed and then eventually dilating again, which is supposed to be another sign of adrenal fatigue.