This Is Nuts!

[VydorScope]

Maybe...I try not to think too much about it, and just make certain my BS is above 7 (118) before I get into bed.

Intresting. See with reactive hyposugar stuff the real crash comes 4 hours after you eat. (right on the nose for me when I checked it ). So checking before bed would not help me I dont think. Unless I woke up 4 hours later and tested, but that kind gets in the way of the goal sleeping! LOL.

So you could say I'm something of an expert on low blood sugar experiences, at least of the diabetic kind...again, hypoglycemia presents a somewhat different approach to it all, but I'm sure we both feel the same way when we've crashed....weak, confused....LOUSY!

Weak, confused, shakes, blackouts (well only nearly forme so far!), iritiablity (puts it midly), etc. I would say probably the same.

[elye]

My insulin reactions can also occur a few hours after eating at bed-time...four hours, five hours...but like I said, I think hypoglycemics, because they don't have the huge added variable of injecting insulin, can prolong the amount of time they go without food, particularly at night. That may be because you are completely inactive through the night, and physical activity lowers the BS. You should probably test before bed, as you may be on the verge of low BS, and you can catch it. Certainly you should ALWAYS be eating before bed. It's certainly a challenge for me to keep the weight off, for this very reason!

[VydorScope]

physical activity lowers the BS

Hmm is that why I feel light headed and sick/etc right now? Just finished a 90 min walk...Need mre strips fro my meter.

[elye]

Absolutely! Again, it varies from person to person, but any activity that gets your heart rate up will lower your blood sugar. The longer the duration and the more intense the activity, the faster and more pronounced the drop will be. A ninety minute walk is a fair hunk of exercise, unless it was a leisurely stop and go stroll. Certainly enough for your BS to drop! Ya need more strips...

[VydorScope]

Absolutely! Again, it varies from person to person, but any activity that gets your heart rate up will lower your blood sugar. The longer the duration and the more intense the activity, the faster and more pronounced the drop will be. A ninety minute walk is a fair hunk of exercise, unless it was a leisurely stop and go stroll. Certainly enough for your BS to drop! Ya need more strips...

It was not stop and go, and it was pushing a stroller in to the wind (it always seems to shift just right LOL). We take it a pretty good pace, enough to get the heart pumping. Wiating on getting more strips till I see doc, cause if she writes an RX for it, I can get tehm coverd by my insurance.

[VydorScope]

WElp just ate breadless breaded chicken+Corn on cob+mashed potatoes... but soooo sleepy now. heh

Im realy posting cause you siad " Ya need more strips...", and I was wondering... what would I use them for? To comfirm I feel bad?

[elye]

Yeah, a high glycemic index food like corn makes my BS shoot up if I eat a lot of it (but it may be different for you, as I'm not sure of the hypoglycemic's reactions to the glycemic load in foods...for diabetics, high GL numbers make for high blood sugars). I need to take extra insulin to cover that, or else my BS is elevated and like you said, I feel exhausted and crappy...in an entirely different way than the crappiness of low blood sugar. How lucky I am to have this variety!

Get the strips to indeed confirm that you're feeling crappy. Well, maybe not THAT you're feeling crappy, but WHY you are. Sounds like you're undeniably hypo. tho.

[VydorScope]

Yeah, a high glycemic index food like corn makes my BS shoot up if I eat a lot of it (but it may be different for you, as I'm not sure of the hypoglycemic's reactions to the glycemic load in foods...for diabetics, high GL numbers make for high blood sugars). I need to take extra insulin to cover that, or else my BS is elevated and like you said, I feel exhausted and crappy...in an entirely different way than the crappiness of low blood sugar. How lucky I am to have this variety!

Get the strips to indeed confirm that you're feeling crappy. Well, maybe not THAT you're feeling crappy, but WHY you are. Sounds like you're undeniably hypo. tho.

Well the thought I was operating under was somthing like the corn to kick up the low BS, then the chicken to level off the fall out. No different then peanutbutter on apples... right?

[VydorScope]

OKay then how do I make sure I survie my exercise?

[elye]

What I do before a workout: avoid injecting insulin, but that's irrelevant to you, and have a high GI food right before. Sounds like you've got the right formula with the corn and chicken...it's likely not quite the same as apples and PB, however, because apples have a low glycemic load, and corn is much higher. Maybe you had too much corn(?) You will get to know how much is enough with trial and error. It doesn't take much of it to make my BS go up. Same with rice pasta, potatoes...all those high-number foods.

[VydorScope]

What I do before a workout: avoid injecting insulin, but that's irrelevant to you, and have a high GI food right before. Sounds like you've got the right formula with the corn and chicken...it's likely not quite the same as apples and PB, however, because apples have a low glycemic load, and corn is much higher. Maybe you had too much corn(?) You will get to know how much is enough with trial and error. It doesn't take much of it to make my BS go up. Same with rice pasta, potatoes...all those high-number foods.

No you missunderstand, I ate that AFTER the walk. Before I had some cheese and a minor snack of somekind that i dont recall right now. Prehaps ti would have been better to eat that first.

BTW where did you get you GL load values from? I have found tons of charts vai google and none of them is layed out in a easy to use manner heh.

[tarnalberry]

it may have been too many carbs between the corn and potatoes for the chicken to "ameliorate". I'd have no more than once seriving of rice (one level cup - less than you'd think if you measure it before putting on a plate) with a chicken breast, particularly one cooked without fat.

[elye]

Yep, have a nice big serving of corn BEFORE your 90 min. walk in the wind. It will take some fine-tuning; perhaps you should have a bit of protein also in case your exercise isn't enough, for whatever the reason, to counter the GL in the corn. But the high GL food on its own might be just enough to keep your BS from crashing after your exercising. Now, I have a super, very well-organized list of foods and their GI and GL values taped to my cupboard. I printed it off a few years ago, and do you think I can remember the site it's from? I just searched for it on google, and nope. I believe it was on a diabetes forum-type site, however. Sorry I can't be of more help.

[VydorScope]

it may have been too many carbs between the corn and potatoes for the chicken to "ameliorate". I'd have no more than once seriving of rice (one level cup - less than you'd think if you measure it before putting on a plate) with a chicken breast, particularly one cooked without fat.

Yea, well I that hit me later... but I ate that AFTER the walk.. I was hoping htat was the right answer

I guess next time I'll skip the potateos since thers more nutriontionn in the corn, right?

[elye]

I missed whether or not you ate the corn and potatoes in the same meal. You should only eat ONE of those starch-heavy, high GL foods per meal. I do know that neither vegetable is a nutritional powerhouse..my guess is potatoes being more vitamin-rich. I'm sure others here readily know the answer to that one...

[VydorScope]

Yep, have a nice big serving of corn BEFORE your 90 min. walk in the wind. It will take some fine-tuning; perhaps you should have a bit of protein also in case your exercise isn't enough, for whatever the reason, to counter the GL in the corn. But the high GL food on its own might be just enough to keep your BS from crashing after your exercising. Now, I have a super, very well-organized list of foods and their GI and GL values taped to my cupboard. I printed it off a few years ago, and do you think I can remember the site it's from? I just searched for it on google, and nope. I believe it was on a diabetes forum-type site, however. Sorry I can't be of more help.

If you printed that listed with Internet Explorer it puts the address on each page, in the footer area as I recall (not used Internet Explorer in a whie...). Can you look see if its there? I'll poke areound some diabetic sites and see what I find.

[tarnalberry]

Compare them with Open Original Shared Link! (I don't have time right now... But I do think potatoes (with the skin) win out, by a fair amount.)

[elye]

Okay, I found the list! It's in the Elite Fitness website:

www.elitefitness.com/articledata/glycemic.htm

[VydorScope]

Okay, I found the list! It's in the Elite Fitness website:

www.elitefitness.com/articledata/glycemic.htm

Well you typo'd that, but I got it

Open Original Shared Link

thanks! I go to my doc in 2 hours. I am owrried she gonna tell me I am wrong and this still not he answer, andhave some good reason for it...I just wanna get better.

[VydorScope]

BTW -> Open Original Shared Link is what I was looking at, it nice cause it gives serving size and GL too.

[elye]

Yep, that's a great site!

[VydorScope]

Well that was painless (err mostly, they did prick my finger lol)

She agrees, Hypoglycimia.

Now I just need find snacks that are good and easy to get at a normal (Kroger) grocery story... striking out so far... well found those protein bars, but at 3.69 per box of 5, I am hoping to find cheaper.... sincei can easly eat 5 or 8 in a day! LOL

[elye]

A sweet fruit with a handful of nuts is great and easy--bananas and pears have high amounts of fructose. You can carry a bag of peanuts around with you, and your fruit...this is probably the healthiest and cheapest way to go. Maybe not quite as convenient as a bar, but I guess you can't have everything...

[whitball]

I've read lots of references to rice cakes. Which brands are gluten free? Great idea to have peanut butter and rice cakes. Just that suggestion alone can help me cope with being hungry all of the time!

[Felidae]

I'm so glad you started this thread Vincent. I have been sick too, and after reading all twelve pages of this thread, I'm thinking that I definitely eat too many carbs. Maybe I am hypoglycemic too. I have been lightheaded and almost blacking out every time I stand up. It's getting rediculous.