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The Funny Pages - Tickle Me Elbow - The Original


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DingoGirl Enthusiast
A spreadsheet?

:lol: :lol: gah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, a spreadsheet. A Phart Chart, to be more precise. I"ll talk to him about this, maybe we can merge the Phart Chart w/ the makeup statistics and.........anovars? Anovas? What in hell were they? - and this will make for some really riveting conversation and study. Oh, it has also occurred to me that we really should be keeping better track of Yeti - where in hell IS he now? - and perhaps a spreadsheet is in order for that, as well.

:lol:

<you can see I"m taking phrequent breaks from my heinous task> :ph34r:


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elye Community Regular
:lol::lol: gah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, a spreadsheet. A Phart Chart, to be more precise. I"ll talk to him about this...

You could chart your flatus with his, and see how things measure up. Are firefighters gassy individuals? I should think not....would be quite a hazard in a burning building, methinks. Yes, Susie, I think you should try a date with him. Why not? May be very good for you, and he probably won't know what hit him. :lol:

Blunted affect.....don't think I know too many people living with this. Blunted villi, well....... <_<:rolleyes:

jerseyangel Proficient
Don't forget the butt sniffing

Always good advice :lol:

DONNA! You're looking more gorgeous in every av!!!!!!!!

I agree B)

Are firefighters gassy individuals? I should think not....would be quite a hazard in a burning building, methinks.

Gawd :lol:

So much Saturday silliness! My intestines have quieted down for now (I know you're all on the edge of your toilet seats wondering about this :P )--I had mostly mashed potatoes for dinner--quite soothing.

Who said malfeasance? Was it Susie? I love that word :P

elye Community Regular
So much Saturday silliness! My intestines have quieted down for now...

Good news, Patti. I actually was wondering.....Perhaps not quite on the edge of my seat, but thinking of you.. ;):)

DingoGirl Enthusiast
You could chart your flatus with his, and see how things measure up. Are firefighters gassy individuals? I should think not....would be quite a hazard in a burning building, methinks. Yes, Susie, I think you should try a date with him. Why not? May be very good for you, and he probably won't know what hit him. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are one nutty lady. I think that every time I read your thoughts, just every now and then, I am struck with it anew, and of course, hold deepest admiration for you. :lol:

Well, let's see.....is that like astrological compatibility, the phlatus charting? Must one's pharts be in alignment for a successphul relationship? :lol: But yes, I do agree - the phirephighter w/ phlatus is a phlagrant hazard for his duty, and surely an annoyance to his phellow crew. :lol:

Who said malfeasance? Was it Susie? I love that word :P

:lol: yes, it was I. I, too, love that word......and also malfeaSOR, the one who has conducted the malfeasance.

OMG - you did not see me here. :ph34r: But am happy to report, I am one-third of the way done w/ the vile carpet. Mygawd, some areas I have to go over SIX TIMES. :blink: It's been a while, I was waiting for Stinker to go and the rains to cease.

oh I miss kissing my black-nosed girl....... did you guys know I mainly like dogs w/ black noses and pointed ears? a freakish thing. I can't say why, but I nearly kidnapped dog-napped a German Shepherd today. :lol:

But I tell ya what, there is NOTHING more boring than shampooing the carpet.....I am a hostage.....I can't watch anything, read anything, listen to anything (though I do have my beloved Ipod on my head)......one is just held captive to this egregious chore, and left to one's Dingo thoughts in one's head.

:lol: :lol:

:blink:

~alex~ Explorer
So much Saturday silliness! My intestines have quieted down for now (I know you're all on the edge of your toilet seats wondering about this :P )--I had mostly mashed potatoes for dinner--quite soothing.

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better. Mashed potatoes are so nice when you're not feeling well. We used to have a constant supply of mashed potatoes in our fridge to reheat that made up the bulk of most my meals. Not so much any more! Must stop myself from professing how good I'm feeling :unsure: for health and safety purposes.

Yesterday my brother reminded me of how our mom used to make us "hot jello" when we weren't feeling well. She would make jello but we would drink it hot instead of letting it cool and eating it. She would give it to us for colds, sore throats, stomachaches, dental issues, pretty much anything . . . a veritable panacea if you will. I highly recommend it for whatever ails you but I think it works better if someone else makes it for you instead of having to make it yourself. ;)

jerseyangel Proficient

Susie--Yeah, I get some of my best thinking done while vaccuming! :D

Well, you know what they say--well begun is half done ;) Or I guess in your case, a third :lol:


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Yesterday my brother reminded me of how our mom used to make us "hot jello" when we weren't feeling well. She would make jello but we would drink it hot instead of letting it cool and eating it. She would give it to us for colds, sore throats, stomachaches, dental issues, pretty much anything . . . a veritable panacea if you will. I highly recommend it for whatever ails you and I think it works better if someone else makes it for you instead of having to make it for yourself. ;)

This is so cute--my MIL used to do this for her kids, too. :D To this day, if I make Jello, and Mark's around, he likes to take a few spoonfuls of it while it's still hot and drink it.

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Yesterday my brother reminded me of how our mom used to make us "hot jello" when we weren't feeling well. She would make jello but we would drink it hot instead of letting it cool and eating it. She would give it to us for colds, sore throats, stomachaches, dental issues, pretty much anything . . . a veritable panacea if you will. I highly recommend it for whatever ails you but I think it works better if someone else makes it for you instead of having to make it yourself. ;)

:) that IS so cute!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I can get a neighboUr.....maybe Stepford? - to make it for me. Instead of taking me to the Ethiopian restaurant, I"ll request the hot jello. ;)

Susie--Yeah, I get some of my best thinking done while vaccuming! :D

Well, you know what they say--well begun is half done ;) Or I guess in your case, a third :lol:

:lol: 'Tis now half done!!!!!!!!!!!!

the thinking whilst vacuuming....I just got off the phone w/ a friend, and told her, this is heinous, I am held hostage to my thoughts.......NO ONE would be able to endure this brain and its convoluted thoughts.....no one......hard to walk around and be with it all the time - and act normal :lol: :lol: :lol: [but truthfully - it's an entirely different place without the opioid peptide contaminating it :rolleyes: ]

[Abby Normal? :huh: ]

:lol:

back to heinosity.......and please note what I am doing on a Saturday night, people. :blink::lol:

Green12 Enthusiast
What's happened????....did Amy get to you??? :o .....have you been.... :blink: .... bee-hived????

Just having hair issues, specifically "curly hair" hair issues, I thought I would go to the expert and ask her advice/suggestions.

Sniffing butts, heavy flirting, lots of biffing and chasing, licking, romping......oh, and Annie had a good time, too!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: (cracking self up)

:lol::lol::lol:

This had me bent over with side splitting chuckles, a good 300 calories worth.

Especially the sniffing butts part.

Here's an entry on a dog's New Years Resolution List:

"Take time from busy schedule to stop and smell the behinds." :lol:

And this Firefighter, you MUST go out with him!!!!!!!! Do it for all of us, do it for me!!!!! You only live once, and life is short, and all those other things that people say :lol: Why not? Can't hurt anything, besides he can be another entry in your dating adventures memoir!

I'm sad about my dad....anyone see the thread I started in testing/symptoms? It's so frustrating, my dad not easily able to start the gluten-free diet, due to his living situation.... :(

:( Emily, very frustrating indeed.

YES, we're waiting for you to come back to the cult for your review of PureLuxe!!!!

:lol: Did we chase away Susie from our cult?

My intestines have quieted down for now (I know you're all on the edge of your toilet seats wondering about this :P )--I had mostly mashed potatoes for dinner--quite soothing.

So sorry Patti about your intestinal woes :(

I'm glad you are feeling better, mashed potatoes always hit the spot :)

Yesterday my brother reminded me of how our mom used to make us "hot jello" when we weren't feeling well. She would make jello but we would drink it hot instead of letting it cool and eating it. She would give it to us for colds, sore throats, stomachaches, dental issues, pretty much anything . . . a veritable panacea if you will. I highly recommend it for whatever ails you but I think it works better if someone else makes it for you instead of having to make it yourself. ;)

Hot jello, that brings back memories!

elye Community Regular
Well, let's see.....is that like astrological compatibility, the phlatus charting? Must one's pharts be in alignment for a successphul relationship?

Yes, yes! One could be charting one's phlatus (phlatii?) like the stars. Perhaps we have signs and can get a sense of personal traits through this charting....

Gad, there's no way I'm in alignment with DH.....his chart is way off the charts. :lol:

OMG - you did not see me here. :ph34r: But am happy to report, I am one-third of the way done w/ the vile carpet. Mygawd, some areas I have to go over SIX TIMES. :blink:

Susie!! Why don't you have hardwood? I cannot imagine life with dogs (or even without) in a home with even a smidgen of carpeting. Carpets are heinous! Wood floors you just sweep and damp-mop once a week.

Ahhhhh...but then, nowhere to scoot along with full anal glands... :lol:

oh I miss kissing my black-nosed girl....... did you guys know I mainly like dogs w/ black noses and pointed ears?

When Gus was a pup, he had a BEAUTIFUL, shiny black nose. I just loved it. I then noticed it began to change, gradually getting lighter until it settled on a rather sub-standard brown. <_< I often think I'll try to dye it back to its rich ebony hue.

Well, Susie, it's fine to mainly like dogs with black noses and pointed ears...but this doesn't extend to men.....does it? :blink:

Yesterday my brother reminded me of how our mom used to make us "hot jello" when we weren't feeling well. She would make jello but we would drink it hot instead of letting it cool and eating it.

I've never heard of this fascinating concoction. My mom used to slap mustard plasters on our chests when we weren't feeling well. HEINOUS.....

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

Boy I missed some silliness today. We got some errands done and my neighbors baby is very sick below us. SO I spent some time with her, the baby is supposed to spend the night at our place tomorrow night into Monday since she has to work unexpectantly, so we will just bring him with us to the hospital in the morning, his mom works as a nurse 3rd shift and will be getting off at 7:30.

We attempted to go to Outback for dinner tonnight, but the wait was 1 1/2 hrs :blink: there was no way I was waiting that long. We ended up at Red Robin in the end.

Such strange weather, we woke up to snow, and it melted during the day. We pulled into the parking lot at Red Robin and it was lightining....Soon it was downpouring... Tomorrow we are getting this artic blast with very very cold air. The wind child will be below zero....BRRRRRR!

Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price! We are all going to look into it further. The monthly mortgage estimate is 400 bucks less than we pay in rent, it has a big yard so her doggies have room and a big driveway for all of us. Cute place too, each has 2 bedrooms and thats all we need right now.

So thats all my news for the day :):)

DingoGirl Enthusiast
This had me bent over with side splitting chuckles, a good 300 calories worth.

Especially the sniffing butts part.

:lol: :lol: I was even cracking myself up over it. Easily amused, here. :lol:

and NO!!!!!!!!! you did NOT scare me away from the cult!!!!!!! I will be back, I tell you, I"LL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!! I actually need to read all y'all's reviews, am about to buy some new foundation/powder/minerals cr*p, need to know what to get.

Yes, yes! One could be charting one's phlatus (phlatii?) like the stars. Perhaps we have signs and can get a sense of personal traits through this charting....

Gad, there's no way I'm in alignment with DH.....his chart is way off the charts.

:lol: hopefully ameliorated soon by the gluten-free (or is it gluten-lite?) diet.

Hardwood......yes, that is what we want, dearly. It was several thousand dollars, unless I lay it myself. <scary thought as requires mathS and measuring and cutting - gads> :angry: This house came w/ carpet, lovely caramel-coloUred carpet, and it has stayed that way. BOLLOCKS! :angry:

and yes, how DO they scoot on the hardwood? :lol:

Well, Susie, it's fine to mainly like dogs with black noses and pointed ears...but this doesn't extend to men.....does it? :blink:

:lol: :lol:

not insofar as I know.....but HEY! maybe THAT's THE TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mustard plasters? Hot jello? mygawd, my own mother is inept, I guess. :lol:

Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price! We are all going to look into it further. The monthly mortgage estimate is 400 bucks less than we pay in rent, it has a big yard so her doggies have room and a big driveway for all of us. Cute place too, each has 2 bedrooms and thats all we need right now.

:rolleyes:

Amanda! This sounds PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <crossing fingers>

back to heinosity.

where in hell ARE you guys? why am I doing this alone? Even Yeti is not here.

harrumph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

psawyer Proficient
Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price! We are all going to look into it further. The monthly mortgage estimate is 400 bucks less than we pay in rent, it has a big yard so her doggies have room and a big driveway for all of us. Cute place too, each has 2 bedrooms and thats all we need right now.

This sounds like a wonderful opportunity. Less per month, and you are investing in your future. Look into it carefully to be sure there are no hidden land mines, but if this is true, grab it.

Darn210 Enthusiast

Well, I guess I'm the only nay-sayer. I just don't like the sound of this:

Plus - he told he he gave his other lab to the POUND because it was destroying his yard...........OMG - many points knocked off for that.

Unless you are only using him for meaningless sex, I say stay away . . . the POUND no less, if he had said he had to find the dog a different home, I would have been all right with that, but NOT the POUND. :angry::(

oh I miss kissing my black-nosed girl....... did you guys know I mainly like dogs w/ black noses and pointed ears? a freakish thing. I can't say why, but I nearly kidnapped dog-napped a German Shepherd today. :lol:

I seem to pick out similar dogs also. Several people pointed out that Josie is the same size/shape that my Maggie Dog was . . . just a different coloUr. I go for long noses, long legs, skinny bellies (don't know how to describe that . . . kind of like that greyhound chest/belly profile), about 40 pounds and FEMALE!!!

Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price! We are all going to look into it further. The monthly mortgage estimate is 400 bucks less than we pay in rent, it has a big yard so her doggies have room and a big driveway for all of us. Cute place too, each has 2 bedrooms and thats all we need right now.

So thats all my news for the day :):)

WOW AMANDA!!! That's fast!!! Good Luck and my unsolicited advice is to make sure you get a home inspection.

Has anyone else noticed this? When I'm writing emails to other people and I need to use a word such as honoUR, I naturally want to spell it with the capital U. I'm sure the receiver would be wondering WTH I'm doing!!! :huh:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Well, I guess I'm the only nay-sayer. I just don't like the sound of this:

Unless you are only using him for meaningless sex, I say stay away . . . the POUND no less, if he had said he had to find the dog a different home, I would have been all right with that, but NOT the POUND. :angry::(

:( that was EXACTLY my thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And since I'm NOT into meaningless sex (mygawd, is there anything we haven't covered here? :ph34r::lol: ) what in hell's the point? Who would do that.....send their dog to the pound for bad behavior.......unfathomable. Many people would adopt a purebred Lab, digger or no...........and he separated the two siblings......:(

Has anyone else noticed this? When I'm writing emails to other people and I need to use a word such as honoUR, I naturally want to spell it with the capital U. I'm sure the receiver would be wondering WTH I'm doing!!! :huh:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know, must RESIST..........RESIST the urge to not only ADD but capitalize the superfloUs U............

:lol:

one more room to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

It smells FABULOUS here, who wants to come stay?????????????????????????? :P

Green12 Enthusiast
Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price! We are all going to look into it further. The monthly mortgage estimate is 400 bucks less than we pay in rent, it has a big yard so her doggies have room and a big driveway for all of us. Cute place too, each has 2 bedrooms and thats all we need right now.

This set up sounds ideal for what you are looking for :)

Green12 Enthusiast

This maybe have been posted before, it made me giggle :lol:

The Top 12 New Year's Resolutions Made by Pets

12. Have a torrid one-night stand with a street mutt.

11. Try to understand that the cat is from Venus and I am from Mars.

10. I will no longer be beholden to the sound of the can opener.

9. Circulate petition that Leg Humping be a juried competition in major dog shows.

8. Call PETA and tell them what that surgical mask-wearing freak does to us when no one is around.

7. Take time from busy schedule to stop and smell the behinds.

6. Hamster: Don't let them figure out I'm just a rat on 'roids, or they'll flush my ass.

5. Always scoot before licking.

4. Grow opposable thumb; break into pantry; decide for MYSELF how much food is *too* much.

3. Get out of the castle more, maybe swim counter-clockwise this year.

2. January 1st: Kill the sock! Must kill the sock! January 2nd - December 31: Re-live victory over the sock.

and the Number 1 New Year's Resolutions Made by Pets...

1. I will NOT chase the damned stick unless I see it LEAVE HIS HAND.

elye Community Regular
Today we did find a duplex with both sides up for sale and a very cheap price!

Amanda, this sounds like an interesting opportunity! Like the sounds of this, so far... :)

Unless you are only using him for meaningless sex, I say stay away . . .

Well.....looking around, brow creased......Of course we're talking about simple, meaningless sex...aren't we? Why on earth would you ever even remotely consider a very attractive child/man with limited intellect, experience and wisdom, unless it were for simple sex? :rolleyes::lol: I would say demerit points for: heinous handling of the pup, and being a firefighter (the few I know are maddeningly self-centred and work 24 hour shifts followed by four days off, so it's see-him-non-stop-for-days, then-nothing-for ages). So just sex, then see ya later, or nuttin' at all. ;):lol:

I go for long noses, long legs, skinny bellies (don't know how to describe that . . . kind of like that greyhound chest/belly profile), about 40 pounds....

This is men you're talking about, Janet? Could you throw up a pic of your hubby for a day or two? (Man, gotta see THIS....) :huh::lol:

Has anyone else noticed this? When I'm writing emails to other people and I need to use a word such as honoUR, I naturally want to spell it with the capital U. I'm sure the receiver would be wondering WTH I'm doing!!! :huh:

OMG, it's so true. I am an active volunteer for DD's sports teams, and I can just imagine the coaches and other players reading my emails, full of HEINOUSes and OMG's....and yes, I capitalize all my Commonwealth U's. I do so miss the emoticons in my regular emails! Makes me realize how often, even in a semi-professional atmosphere, I have need for a :mellow: , or a :( , or at times even a :wacko: ........

tom Contributor

Hey! I'm up early enough to say "G'Morning Sillies!!"

Busy silly saturday y'all . ..off to catch up. (& the *&^%$# Sunday paper not here yet :P:lol: )

Hope I don't jinx myself Patti-style in saying I feel better than I have in weeks.

So I won't. :P

I'm KNOT feeling that good. (But I lie)

Played basketball yesterday - I'm talkin' an actual GAME!! Months ahead of schedule!! - I literally stopped play after a bucket to announce it was my 1st in a game in 8yrs!!

(Realized later it might be 6yrs)

Ok .. . .time to catch up on meaningless sex ... . . . . ..... . .. . ..errr .. . . reading about meaningless sex .. . .

P.S. Donna! What a fantastic surprise yesterday's summery day was! :) :) :)

Green12 Enthusiast
Played basketball yesterday - I'm talkin' an actual GAME!! Months ahead of schedule!! - I literally stopped play after a bucket to announce it was my 1st in a game in 8yrs!!

(Realized later it might be 6yrs)

I'd say that's a pretty darn good sign you are feeling better!

That's good news :D

nikki-uk Enthusiast
I am quite sure he does not know these words:

heinous (such an easy one)

egregious

malfeasance

miscreant

perspicacious

odious

and don't forget

sprueziacal eclecticism

Couldn't he learn????....you could be his teacher....... :lol:

I figured this would be the case, you and Bev would be screaming the loudest for me to go out with these man-children. :lol: Would rather stay home w/ a good book, honestly. But....if you insist....... ;)

The LOUDEST????.......<I must shout for Bev> :lol: ............what do YOU mean???????? :ph34r:

I am held hostage to my thoughts.......NO ONE would be able to endure this brain and its convoluted thoughts.....no one......hard to walk around and be with it all the time - and act normal

:lol::lol::lol:

I can only hope you win the lottery & get some hardwood floors toute suite thus saving yourself and others from these convoluted thoughts

......also, fairly sure a firefighter would be able lay said wood :ph34r:

Just having hair issues, specifically "curly hair" hair issues, I thought I would go to the expert and ask her advice/suggestions.

Need a change?? ......a restyle???? :unsure: (I am thinking of it....but it's quite scary)

Well.....looking around, brow creased......Of course we're talking about simple, meaningless sex...aren't we? Why on earth would you ever even remotely consider a very attractive child/man with limited intellect, experience and wisdom, unless it were for simple sex? :rolleyes::lol: I would say demerit points for: heinous handling of the pup, and being a firefighter (the few I know are maddeningly self-centred and work 24 hour shifts followed by four days off, so it's see-him-non-stop-for-days, then-nothing-for ages). So just sex, then see ya later, or nuttin' at all. ;):lol:

GAHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

My point EXACTLY EMILY!!!!!!!!! :lol:

dlp252 Apprentice
oh I miss kissing my black-nosed girl....... did you guys know I mainly like dogs w/ black noses and pointed ears? a freakish thing. I can't say why, but I nearly kidnapped dog-napped a German Shepherd today. :lol:

You would have loved both my little westies...big black noses and very pointy ears, lol.

P.S. Donna! What a fantastic surprise yesterday's summery day was! :) :) :)

Yes, and today as well...already quite warm outside! :)

DingoGirl Enthusiast
4. Grow opposable thumb; break into pantry; decide for MYSELF how much food is *too* much.

:lol: that would be Annie's number one resolution......my little hedonist is all about food, love, food, cuddling, FOOD, playing and romping and going anywhere.....and love and food. :)

OMG, it's so true. I am an active volunteer for DD's sports teams, and I can just imagine the coaches and other players reading my emails, full of HEINOUSes and OMG's....and yes, I capitalize all my Commonwealth U's. I do so miss the emoticons in my regular emails! Makes me realize how often, even in a semi-professional atmosphere, I have need for a :mellow: , or a :( , or at times even a :wacko: ........

:lol: I know. REally need me smileys to convey the proper emotion.

Just be sure you don't use heinosity in your normal emails, must remind my friends it's not a real word. :lol:

P.S. Donna! What a fantastic surprise yesterday's summery day was!

:lol: I read this as "yesterday's summary" and was completely confused, where WAS this summary? what did I miss? until I saw Donna's comment.

ugh, carpets are nearly completely done, just one more bedroom, and my body and back are one big ache - - dear gawd - - - where is that fireman to finish the task???????????? :huh:

I can only hope you win the lottery & get some hardwood floors toute suite thus saving yourself and others from these convoluted thoughts

......also, fairly sure a firefighter would be able lay said wood :ph34r:

gah!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

Your mouth to God's ear..............

must finish the task, sillies!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Sunday! :)

Darn210 Enthusiast
1. I will NOT chase the damned stick unless I see it LEAVE HIS HAND.

:lol::lol: - I love when dogs think you've thrown the stick!!

......also, fairly sure a firefighter would be able lay said wood :ph34r:

:ph34r::lol::ph34r:

Nikki does have a point though . . . most of those firefighter have a job on the side and a lot of them do contract/construction type of work. I'm sure you could get one to lay a hardwood floor for you in exchange for sexal favoUrs.

:lol: that would be Annie's number one resolution......my little hedonist is all about food, love, food, cuddling, FOOD, playing and romping and going anywhere.....and love and food. :)

Josie knows how to tell time. If someone (one of the kids) hasn't fed her by 8:00 am (and again by 6:00pm), then she stands in front of them and barks. She also knows when it's time for the school bus to come.

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      Thank you all for your advice and the dermatitis herpetiformis article. The latter made me realise I had stopped taking my antihistamine, which I will restart today. The Dapsone has cleared the rash entirely but I still get quite a bit itching, absolutely nothing to see though. I know its notoriously hard to clear and its still relatively early days for me.  The iodine issue is very interesting. I do eat quite a bit of salt because I have Addison's disease and sodium retention is an issue. I also have autoimmune hypothyroidism, not sure how a low iodine diet would play into that? Because of my Addison's I am totally steroid dependent, I take steroids 4 x daily and cannot mount any defence against inflammation. I need to increase my meds for that. Now that I know what is wrong I can do just that if Im having a bad day. Life is very sweet, just so damn complicated sometimes! Hey ho, onwards. Thank you again for your advice.  
    • trents
      So, essentially all of the nutrition in the food we eat is absorbed through the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestinal track that is damaged by celiac disease. This villous lining is composed of billions of finger-like projections that create a huge amount of surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the celiac person, when gluten is consumed, it triggers an autoimmune reaction in this area which, of course, generates inflammation. The antibodies connected with this inflammation is what the celiac blood tests are designed to detect but this inflammation, over time, wears down the finger-like projections of the villous lining. Of course, when this proceeds for an extended period of time, greatly reduces the absorption efficiency of the villous lining and often results in many and various nutrient deficiency-related health issues. Classic examples would be osteoporosis and iron deficiency. But there are many more. Low D3 levels is a well-known celiac-caused nutritional deficiency. So is low B12. All the B vitamins in fact. Magnesium, zinc, etc.  Celiac disease can also cause liver inflammation. You mention elevated ALP levels. Elevated liver enzymes over a period of 13 years was what led to my celiac diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes normalized. I had elevated AST and ALT. The development of sensitivities to other food proteins is very common in the celiac population. Most common cross reactive foods are dairy and oats but eggs, soy and corn are also relatively common offenders. Lactose intolerance is also common in the celiac population because of damage to the SB lining.  Eggs when they are scrambled or fried give me a gut ache. But when I poach them, they do not. The steam and heat of poaching causes a hydrolysis process that alters the protein in the egg. They don't bother me in baked goods either so I assume the same process is at work. I bought a plastic poacher on Amazon to make poaching very easy. All this to say that many of the issues you describe could be caused by celiac disease. 
    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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