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Biting Inside Of My Cheeks


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mamaloca2 Apprentice

Does anyone kno wif there is a connection between Celiac disease and habitual biting of the inside of the mouth. I have done it since I was a kid and now my son who is only four does it. Does anyone else have this problem?


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chrissy Collaborator

sounds more like an obsessive-complulsive behavior-----and OCD can run in families.

jennyj Collaborator

Wow. I have done this as long as I can remember. My dad used to say "Jenny stop it," all the time. I tend to do it when I am very nrevous or watching TV. I don't know if there is a connection but you are not alone.

Kellygirl Rookie
Wow. I have done this as long as I can remember. My dad used to say "Jenny stop it," all the time. I tend to do it when I am very nrevous or watching TV. I don't know if there is a connection but you are not alone.

Yep I am obsessive complusive and I do it all the time, even while sleeping. I am celiac too, but I never really questioned if they go together or not!

Kelly

mamaloca2 Apprentice
sounds more like an obsessive-complulsive behavior-----and OCD can run in families.

I don't have any other traits that are OCD. And I only really bite them when a am stressed. I just noticed when I got glutened that I did it much more, and thought there could be a connection.

mamaloca2 Apprentice
Wow. I have done this as long as I can remember. My dad used to say "Jenny stop it," all the time. I tend to do it when I am very nrevous or watching TV. I don't know if there is a connection but you are not alone.

Us too! Even if it's not related to celiac, seems like there's got to be something more to it. Thanks for your reply!

RiceGuy Collaborator

I used to have similar sorts of stuff happen, but by accident. Usually it was my lip that got chomped :angry: Thankfully, this has subsided/disappeared, and I believe the key was a sublingual methylcobalamin (vitamin B12) supplement. Either that or it just took time, but I notice that my teeth are straighter too, and no longer have the aching that would come and go.

Still a bit of teeth clenching, but not as bad as it used to be.


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ravenwoodglass Mentor

I actually trained myself to do this. On gluten or under great stress I am a teeth grinder. I have broken them in my sleep, those good old celiac teeth, and I do it to keep from grinding. Perhaps a mouth guard might help you and your son, your dentist can give you one with the best fit. Another thing that helps, at least for me, is a hot compress on my cheek before bed. When I get glutened it helps my muscles to relax and I don't do as much grinding and biting. Plus it feels very soothing.

cmom Contributor

I used to accidentally bite the inside of my mouth and once I did it, it seemed like I did it several times, each time very painful. Hadn't thought much about it until reading these posts. That's a good thing cause that means it "ain't " happenin' anymore!!!!!!

zakismom Newbie

I used to do this all the time! I also used to bite my lip until it turned into a bump. I don't do it as much but I do know that if I get glutened I get a mouth sore.

Rusla Enthusiast

I do this all the time, although it could be not just an ocd but in some cases a tourettes thing.

Stargirl* Newbie

Hi.

I am a long time lurker, first time poster. ;)

My daughter bites the inside of her cheeks and lips. I have put it down to the mouth ulcers she used to have until the gluten intolerance diagnosis.

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mwahlman Newbie

You may be refering to TMJ. I was recently diagnosed with this by my dentist, around the same time as my Celiac Diagnosis.

I am unsure if the two are directly related, or if I just have been lucky finding medical professionals who arent qwacks lately.

"TemporoMandibular Joint and muscle disorders" The following article goes over the specifics:

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Does anyone kno wif there is a connection between Celiac disease and habitual biting of the inside of the mouth. I have done it since I was a kid and now my son who is only four does it. Does anyone else have this problem?
lob6796 Contributor
Does anyone kno wif there is a connection between Celiac disease and habitual biting of the inside of the mouth. I have done it since I was a kid and now my son who is only four does it. Does anyone else have this problem?

Interesting, I would have never connected the two. I do it alot (ugh the scars!), and my mom, who never knew she did it, went to a special dentist the other day and the lady goes "wow, you really bite your mouth alot, huh?" The dentist said she is probably doing it in her sleep without realizing it. I have Celiac, and she is suspected of having it.

Guhlia Rising Star

I am mildly OCD and I compulsively scratch my lips with my teeth. I'm assuming this is about the same as what you guys are talking about. Luckily, most of my OCD symptoms disappeared when I went gluten free. Unfortunately, this one hasn't gone away completely. It has gotten better though since going gluten free. I think there's definitely a connection with OCD and gluten.

Ursa Major Collaborator

I have Tourette's syndrome and Asperger Syndrome, and I have always done that, too. It isn't possible to determine if in my case it is a tic, OCD (which I have mildly, but not enough for a separate diagnosis, as EVERYBODY with TS and AS has some compulsive behaviours) or a stim (self-stimulating behaviour, typical for people on the autistic spectrum).

But I do know that I don't do things like that as much as I used to when still eating gluten, and my tics have decreased as well.

JamiD Apprentice

*reluctantly raises hand*

Gawd, I'm doing it right now.

I've habitually chewed/bit my inside cheeks and lips since I was a teen. I do it more when I'm not physically busy.

Never been diagnosed w/ OCD and I would say that if I have it, it is mild.

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glutenfreek Newbie

Add one more person with celiac and bites their tongue...literally. I have wondered about OCD, never been diagnosed, but that doesn't mean much. Like others have mentioned I remember doing this as a child, my grandmother did it and so does my father. I have tried to stop numerous times, hence why I am on this site right now, seeing if anybody has ever been successful in kicking this nasty habit. I used to grind my teeth too and my dentist made me a mouth guard, (Wal Mart sells a mouth guard that you mold to your teeth at home, fairly easy to do and only $20). This stopped my grinding but I am having trouble with biting my tongue still. It is sooooo irritating, I do it in my sleep and sub consciously. I don't understand why I do this, I absolutely hate it, my tongue is sore all the time and looks repulsive I want to stop! Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

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