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Canadian Karen

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Canadian Karen Community Regular

I firmly believe that the Canadian Wheat Board does everything in it's power "behind the scenes" to quash any information about gluten intolerance/celiac disease.

This is an interesting article about the Cdn government trying to take away some of it's power:

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My dream (I know, I know, pipe dreams........ :rolleyes: ) is that the world will wake up finally and realize the damage gluten is doing to people. Another part of my dream is someone will come up with a perfect system to convert wheat into fuel and the farmers will thrive in this new market.....

Hugs!

Karen


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Karen,

WOW we have the same exact dream :D

I just told hubby the other day wht would the farmers of wheat growing do if the world had to all go gluten-free lol

He said looks like they would all have to convert to growing "corn" :lol:

I sure do wish they would take away all the stuff that is killing the world asap <_<

I think when the lid fallls off and they realize how many ppl there really is having this "problem" then they might just have to bite the bullet and stop all wheat and wheat products from the makings :P

They prolly already have the wheat turned into fuel just don't want us to know they do ,so we have to pay there high gas prices :angry:

Belinda

Canadian Karen Community Regular

I believe it would be such a win/win situation for the farmers..... The farmers that grow corn would thrive because if things are made with corn based flour, the need for corn would explode. The farmers who grow wheat would thrive growing it for the fuel industry.....

Ahhhh, if only........... :rolleyes:

missy'smom Collaborator
My dream (I know, I know, pipe dreams........ :rolleyes: ) is that the world will wake up finally and realize the damage gluten is doing to people.

Amen!

confused Community Regular

Ok this is an touchy subject for me cause I am celiac and i do grow wheat. I have never thought of trying not to grow wheat cause of being celiac. I know at one point we did talk to the ones that do all the work for us, of converting it all to corn fields, but that is just not something that we can. Cause we also have to look at if wheat farmers do stop growing wheat, what will it do to the prices of people that do eat wheat. Not everyone in the world is affected by eating wheat, just the 1 in 133 people that do have celiac. There are still people out there that eat wheat and feel better and are healthy. We are just the few that cant have wheat.

paula

plus if we would change it all to corn, then there will be yrs the farmers will not make any money at all for corn. Being an farmer is not always easy. That is why farmers grow more then one thing, cause you cut at different times. Like we just cut for wheat, but we didnt make that much money due to lots of hail damage. There are years we only get so much for wheat, adn then yrs we hardly get any for corn. So in reality it wont always be a win/win for farmers. Yes this yr we will make more money for corn cause of it being used for gas, but that is if we even have an crop. We never know from yr to yr if we will make anything.

elye Community Regular

Things are looking up, Karen! America is scrambling to find an alternative fuel to oil; this we know. That is why great strides have been made in developmental research on grain use. Just one small example:

www.google.com/search?q=ethanol+wheat&sourceic

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Not everyone in the world is affected by eating wheat, just the 1 in 133 people that do have celiac. There are still people out there that eat wheat and feel better and are healthy. We are just the few that cant have wheat.

paula

Paula, some people think this, but then some people like me & Dr Fine think that the numbers are MUCH higher, don't forget that 1% that is quoted around does not include wheat allergy or gluten intolerance.

also IMO no human person should be eating gluten, dairy or soy. Only a RARE few are not affected by gluten, not the other way around. I think gluten in the cause of most mental disorders, including anger & depression & violence, most auto-immune problems, & most cancer. then there is the IBS, gerd stuff... I think that the medical scientific community will have this all figured out in about 15 years.


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Paula, some people think this, but then some people like me & Dr Fine think that the numbers are MUCH higher, don't forget that 1% that is quoted around does not include wheat allergy or gluten intolerance.

also IMO no human person should be eating gluten, dairy or soy. Only a RARE few are not affected by gluten, not the other way around. I think gluten in the cause of most mental disorders, including anger & depression & violence, most auto-immune problems, & most cancer. then there is the IBS, gerd stuff... I think that the medical scientific community will have this all figured out in about 15 years.

exactly, everyone reacts differently some worst than others. although you may have exaggerated a little, I completely agree with you. I think that the way we eat and the chemicals we're exposed to on a daily basis are the main reasons why 99% of the population has problems. Everyone has problems, haven't you noticed? ADD, tired as hell, allergies, you name it...

elye Community Regular

Yep...it's all about what we put into our bodies, no question. And paperdoll, I am with you: the protein in likely ALL grains has never been meant for human consumption. Many of our health problems throughout history (since the start of agriculture) are simply a loud indication of this.

stef-the-kicking-cuty Enthusiast
Not everyone in the world is affected by eating wheat, just the 1 in 133 people that do have celiac. There are still people out there that eat wheat and feel better and are healthy.

Some people also are in denial. There was a good article out there a few years ago. Or was it even in a book? Can't remember this anymore. It said, that (like also said on this post already) grains (it stated wheat for the most part) were never meant to be eaten by humans. It said, that at the beginning, when humankind first discovered wheat, EVERYBODY had problems and that their bodies tried to adjust by slowly switching the one gene and that this one gene (which we celiacs still have) in those people whose body didn't adjust now makes problems today known as celiac, intolerances, allergies, you name it.

Now, how I see it, and that's what they said in that article, too. Now what's coming is just an example, I don't know, if it's exactly possible like this. So, please don't dwell on this, ok? If one organ in your body has a blood clot (gene, that doesn't allow body to digest wheat) and the blood can't reach the organ anymore (digestion problems) and it never gets figured out for some reason. Then your body would try a way around it by forming a new way, the blood can flow. Then suddenly everything gets better, because the blood flows again, cause the body built an own bypass (changed the gene) so to speak. Does this mean, this person is healthy? Well, the blood can still reach the organ, but on the other hand, the clot is still there, too.

So, if you look at it this way, we are actually not the sick people. The non-celiacs are, because their body tried a way around the wheat grain. Now would stopping eating wheat for everybody bring their body back to the healthy stage it was thousands of years ago??? Probably...

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