Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Uti? Or Kidney?

num1habsfan

By num1habsfan
in Related Issues & Disorders

Recommended Posts

num1habsfan Rising Star
num1habsfan
Posted

Hey everyone... I need some of your advice, and by now you'd think I would know already if I have some sort of infection by getting them so often. I can't really get to a doc who would help me until Saturday morning probably, and this started yesterday... do you think 4 days is too long to wait????

I'm convinced its a kidney infection because well...my kidney hurts. It feels like someone has been poking me sharply there. I have been going to the bathroom at least once an hour, even when I don't have very much to drink. I went out and got some cranberry juice since I'm always told that would like to help. I have also seen a trace of pink, which obviously has to mean some blood.

Please try to help me out here, guys.

~ Lisa ~

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


~alex~ Explorer
~alex~
Posted

When I had a kidney infection, I got very ill very quickly. I was feeling fine in the morning and then was admitted to the hospital by the evening. Nausea, vomiting and incredible fatigue were the prominent symptoms for me. Fever and confusion were also present as the day went on.

If you're feeling very, very ill and it came on quickly it could be a kidney infection and you could be in extremis if you don't get treatment for 4 days. If you're symptoms aren't severe, it might be a simple bladder infection -- which should still be treated since it could lead to a kidney infection.

If you think you have a kidney infection you should go to the ER ASAP. They are not something to fool around with.

gfpaperdoll Rookie
gfpaperdoll
Posted

yep, I would be in the ER ASAP...

wowzer Community Regular
wowzer
Posted

I wouldn't wait. The jabbing pain could also be a kidney stone.

2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
Posted

Right now you are describing a urinary tract infection. The urinary tract includes the kidneys. A bladder infection that remains untreated can ascend up the ureters (the tube from the kidney to the bladder) and then you have a kidney infection + a bladder infection.

Once the kidney is involved - you will get fever/chills and feel very ill.

The pain you are describing could indicate that the infection is indeed making its way into the kidney or that you have a kidney stone. Based on the urgency and frequency of urination plus signs of blood - I would guess that you have a signifcant infection.

You should NOT wait and going to ER is reasonable for a possible kidney infection. Once the kidney becomes inflamed - it affects kidney function and rapidly inflames all the little network of tubules in the kidney itself. Kidney infections, left untreated - may cause scarring in the kidney.

Do not be surpirsed nor embarrased if they ask you about sexual activity as this is a common cause of UTI in women. ..and if it related to that, and it may impact which antibiotics they choose... it doesnt necessarly mean a partner "infected you" but the activity itself can irritate the urethra. I add this info for general knowledge for readers of the post who may find this info helpful....

Please see a physician as soon as you can. Drink plenty of water, avoid caffeine and/or alcohol for now. Cranberry juice can help because it acidifes the urine - bacteria like an alkaline environment.

Sandy

num1habsfan Rising Star
num1habsfan
Posted
  • Author

If you guys are trying to scare me into going, it's almost working. I'll make my decision tomorrow morning, see if I get any worse. If I do, I may just try to get to a walk-in clinic (since i'm positive ER would make me wait there alllll day and like last time not listen when I tell them what's wrong--last time I waited 8 hours even after describing that my pain on a scale from 1-10 was a 11!).

I sure have the major fatigue, still pain in the kidney, still can't go more than 1 1/2 hours without having to pee, had a little bit of a fever earlier, and definitely have the nausea (almost threw up when I ate supper)...

~ Lisa ~

loraleena Contributor
loraleena
Posted

Definitely get to the doc. In the meantime try D-Mannose it is very helpful with uti's. Keeps bacteria from sticking to bladder walls. Can cure infection (in the beginning) without antibiotics. You could start this while you are waiting for your appointment. You can get it at a natural food store.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


2kids4me Contributor
2kids4me
Posted
If you guys are trying to scare me into going, it's almost working. I'll make my decision tomorrow morning, see if I get any worse. If I do, I may just try to get to a walk-in clinic (since i'm positive ER would make me wait there alllll day and like last time not listen when I tell them what's wrong--last time I waited 8 hours even after describing that my pain on a scale from 1-10 was a 11!).

I sure have the major fatigue, still pain in the kidney, still can't go more than 1 1/2 hours without having to pee, had a little bit of a fever earlier, and definitely have the nausea (almost threw up when I ate supper)...

~ Lisa ~

I am not tring to scare you - I am stating facts. Although I am in the veterinary profession, my work is in the lab as well as patient care. Plus I have had an ascending UTI myself. The fever is telling you that is is likely moving up into the kidney. If you choose to wait, that is your choice. A walk in clinic would be great - less wait than ER because ER has to prioritize cases.

If you feel the ER will make you wait then why not go to a walk in clinic during the day?

Yes ER can be frustrating but if your vitals are good, you will wait. Patients with unstable signs are seen first...you never know what came in through the ambulance bay.

Abdominal pain no matter how bad is evaluated along with vitals. If you have tachycardia and low blood pressure - believe me - you would be seen.

A UTI would be lower priority in ER and yes, likely a long wait if they are busy... but you would be seen at a walk in clinic.

Sandy

marciab Enthusiast
marciab
Posted

I agree that you need to get treated soon. You mentioned that you've been through this before so, do you have a Urologist / doctor you could call and ask for antibiotics ? I don't know if they do this, but if you're in a bind, they might.

I've heard of people treating their UTIs with that cranberry supplement (AZO ? ). I tried to self treat my last UTI with that extra strong cranberry juice. My UTI came on around 2 am and within 6 hours of drinking that cranberry juice almost straight, the spasms stopped and I could get off the toilet. My urine was cranberry colored, but I'm not sure if it was blood or cranberry juice.

By day 3, I thought it was working because I stopped leaking all the time. But I ended up bent over in pain and nauseas in the ER on day 4. Two days on antibiotics and I was fine again. My symptoms were worse than yours are though. Don't know if that matters ...

FYI: My daughter went to a walk-in clinic and was diagnosed with a UTI / kidney infection and given antibiotics. They didn't even look for a kidney stone and she had all the symptoms (vomitting, nausea, horrible pain) She ended up in the ER the next day ... She had a stone that was stuck right outside her bladder. OW !!!!!

So, if you go to a walk-in-clinic, you want to make sure they check for stones. The ER doc said it was common for them not to check ...

Hope you feel better ... Marcia .. Keep us posted ...

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to Trish G's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      7

      Fiber Supplement

      @Trish G, I like dates, they have lots if fiber as well. But what I found helped most was taking Thiamine (in the form Benfotiamine which helps promote intestinal healing), Pyridoxine B 6, Riboflavin B 2, and magnesium, and Omega Three fats. The absorption of nutrients is affected by Celiac disease which damages the intestinal lining of the small...
    2. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to kpf's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      14

      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      @kpf, Were you eating ten grams or more of gluten daily in the month preceding your antibody blood tests? TTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines. Ten grams of gluten per day for several weeks before testing is required to provoke sufficient antibody production for the antibodies to leave the intestines and enter the blood stream and be measured...
    3. Trish G
      - Trish G replied to Trish G's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      7

      Fiber Supplement

      Thanks, I'm not a big fan of prunes but did add them back after stopping the Benefiber. Hoping for the best while I wait to hear back from Nutritionist for a different fiber supplement. Thanks again
    4. Wheatwacked
      - Wheatwacked replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      36

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      If you were wondering why milk protein bothers you with Celiac Disease. Commercial dairies supplement the cow feed with wheat, which becomes incorporated in the milk protein. Milk omega 6 to omega 3 ratio: Commercial Dairies: 5:1 Organic Milk: 3:1 Grass fed milk: 1:1
    5. Wheatwacked
      - Wheatwacked replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      36

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      My TMJ ended when I lost a middle lower molar. I had an amalgam filling from youth (1960s) that failed and the tooth broke. I had what was left pulled and did not bother to replace it. My bite shifted and the TMJ went away. I just had to be careful eating M&M Peanuts because they would get stuck in the hole.
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,344
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    GFBB95
    Newest Member
    GFBB95
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Fiber Supplement

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @Trish G,  I like dates, they have lots if fiber as well.  But what I found helped most was taking Thiamine (in the form Benfotiamine which helps promote intestinal healing), Pyridoxine B 6, Riboflavin B 2, and magnesium, and Omega Three fats. The absorption of nutrients is affected by Celiac disease which damages the intestinal lining of the small intestines where our nutrients are absorbed.  If you have constipation, where your body is rather pushing your food away and not interacting with it, the nutrients in the food are not being released and absorbed.  You can develop deficiencies in all the vitamins and minerals necessary for the body to function properly.   The B vitamins cannot be stored for long, so they must be replenished daily.  Thiamine B 1 stores can run out in as little as three days.  Constipation (or diarrhea or alternating) is one of the first symptoms of thiamine deficiency.  Thiamine needs magnesium, Pyridoxine B 6, and Riboflavin B 2 to make the intestinal tract function.  Thiamine and Niacin make digestive enzymes.  Thiamine provides the energy for nerve impulses to carry messages to the brain and back about digestion.  Thiamine provides the energy for the muscle contractions which move your food through the digestive tract. High calorie meals containing lots of starches and sugars can deplete thiamine stores quickly because more thiamine is required to turn them into energy.   Are you taking any vitamin and mineral supplements?  Correction of malnutrition is very important in Celiac disease.  Thiamine, the other B vitamins and magnesium will help with constipation better than adding more fiber.  What did your nutritionist recommend you take, besides just the fiber? The association between dietary vitamin B1 intake and constipation: a population-based study https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11100033/ Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Association between dietary vitamin B6 intake and constipation: a population-based study https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11584952/
    • knitty kitty
      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @kpf, Were you eating ten grams or more of gluten daily in the month preceding your antibody blood tests? TTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines.  Ten grams of gluten per day for several weeks before testing is required to provoke sufficient antibody production for the antibodies to leave the intestines and enter the blood stream and be measured in blood tests. If you had already gone gluten free or if you had lowered your consumption of gluten before testing, your results will be inaccurate and inconclusive.   See link below on gluten challenge guidelines. Have you had any genetic testing done to see if you carry genes for Celiac disease?  If you don't have genes for Celiac, look elsewhere for a diagnosis.  But if you have Celiac genes, you cannot rule out Celiac disease. You mentioned in another post that you are vegetarian.  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  The best sources of the eight essential B vitamins are found in meats.  Do you supplement any of the B vitamins as a vegetarian? Deficiency in Thiamine Vitamin B 1 is strongly associated with anemia which can cause false negatives on antibody tests.  Fatigue, numbness or tingling in extremities, difficulty with coordination, headaches and anemia are strongly associated with thiamine deficiency.  Other B vitamins that contribute to those symptoms are Riboflavin B 2, Pyridoxine B 6, Folate B 9 and B12 Cobalamine.  The eight B vitamins all work together with minerals like magnesium and iron.  So your symptoms are indicative of B vitamin deficiencies.  You can develop vitamin and mineral deficiencies just being a vegetarian and not eating good sources of B vitamins like meat.  B vitamin deficiencies are found in Celiac due to the malabsorption of nutrients because the lining of the intestines gets damaged by the antibodies produced in response to gluten.    
    • Trish G
      Fiber Supplement

      By Trish G · Posted

      Thanks, I'm not a big fan of prunes but did add them back after stopping the Benefiber. Hoping for the best while I wait to hear back from Nutritionist for a different fiber supplement.  Thanks again
    • Wheatwacked
      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      By Wheatwacked · Posted

      If you were wondering why milk protein bothers you with Celiac Disease.  Commercial dairies supplement the cow feed with wheat, which becomes incorporated in the milk protein. Milk omega 6 to omega 3 ratio: Commercial Dairies: 5:1 Organic Milk: 3:1 Grass fed milk: 1:1
    • Wheatwacked
      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      By Wheatwacked · Posted

      My TMJ ended when I lost a middle lower molar.  I had an amalgam filling from youth (1960s) that failed and the tooth broke.  I had what was left pulled and did not bother to replace it.  My bite shifted and the TMJ went away.  I just had to be careful eating M&M Peanuts because they would get stuck in the hole.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.