Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Iga Deficiency = Negative Blood Test


lcarter

Recommended Posts

lcarter Contributor

Did you know that if you have IgA Deficiency the blood tests for Celiac may be false-negative, or at the best inconclusive? That's because IgA is what is used as the a marker for the current bloods that are done. Note the 2 following articles:

1) DO WE NEED TO MEASURE TOTAL SERUM IgA TO EXCLUDE IgA DEFICIENCY IN COELIAC DISEASE?

AU Sinclair D; Saas M; Turk A; Goble M; Kerr D SO J Clin Pathol. 2006 Jul;59(7):736-9. Epub 2006 Feb 17.

"Screening for IgA deficiency in patients with coeliac disease is essential because of the increased incidence of IgA deficiency associated with the disease, which usually relies on the estimation of IgA levels in each case."

2) WHAT BLOOD TEST HELP DIAGNOSE CELIAC DISEASE?

Bonzo�K.�Reddick,�MD

Department of Family Medicine, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

"Two to 3% of patients with celiac disease have selective IgA deficiency. These patients often have falsely negative serum IgA assays (for EMA, tTG, and AGA), so IgG is a diagnostic alternative. In a cross-sectional study, 100% of 20 untreated celiac disease patients with IgA deficiency had positive IgG tests for tTG, AGA, and EMA despite negative IgA tests for the same antibodies. Eleven patients with celiac disease and no IgA deficiency all had positive tTG, AGA, and EMA tests, whether testing for the IgA or IgG forms."

  • 2 weeks later...

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Crimson Rookie

I'm wondering about this. Does anyone know if enterolab is able to show a deficiency in their tests on IgA???

holiday16 Enthusiast
I'm wondering about this. Does anyone know if enterolab is able to show a deficiency in their tests on IgA???

No they don't, but so many of our family members were tested through enterolab that I began to see a trend that I thought might indicate low IGA I talked with the nurse at Enterolab who agreed so I went to my Dr. and requested the test. Mine came back low, but just barely. My son had his tested and came back normal, but just barely.

The reason I suspected low IGA was because Enterolab says the average postive numer is 45. When I was tested mine came back postive, but only as an 11. My dad's was postive, but only a 14 and yet his ttg was also positive. Then my mother tested negative as a 9, but everything else looked o.k. on her test except she does have a celiac gene. My brother tested the highest of anyone with 22 and a positive ttg. He has a celiac gene as well. My daughter tested at 15 with a positive ttg, fecal fat score of 431 and postive for casein. My son had the lowest possible positive value at 10, but his fecal fat was 1254. He's the one I posted on another thread to you that he has the same genes you do.

With my kids I ordered the most comprehensive test because if your IGA is lower the numbers are not as strong and you end up having to put it in perspective. Even though my son had the lowest postive score he had the highest fecal fat score as well.

Out of all the people tested my mother has been the only one that has not noticed an improvement on the gluten-free diet and she was the one that tested negative. I keep telling her to get her IGA levels tested because if they're fairly normal then she truly is negative and does not need to be on the full diet. If they're low then what is a borderline negative for someone with regular IGA would become a postive result for someone with low. It would be nice if Enterolab could provide adjusted results for if you have lower blood IGA's, but that's just not the way it is and you have to put 2 and 2 together on your own. The only time it shows up really obvious by an Enterolab results would be if you have a true IGA defeciency and the numbers would be so low it would be apparent. That didn't happen with us because we have lower IGA numbers, but not a true deficiency.

Crimson Rookie

Thank you yet again! ^_^ I'm beginning to feel a grand connection with your son. I hope he's a daydreamer.

I've been doing my research. And as I've written before, I am a follower of the Blood Type Diet.

I am a blood type 0+ Non Secreter. And this and my symptoms lead me to believe that I have celiac.

Dr. D'Adamo's research (or the research that he sites) says that non secreters are 200% more likely to develop

celiac. MOSTLY due to an IgA deficiency!

So, I don't see me paying for all these tests if this would be the case.

I assume that, with my situation, I'd be better off checking for IgA deficiency BEFORE I go for the other tests.

It just seems on key. I'm pretty intuitive with myself.

If anyone would want the links for some of this information, I'll go ahead and post them.

Read if you're interested.

Cheers!

Open Original Shared Link),_ABO_and_Secretor_Blood_Types

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

nora-n Rookie

I am blood type 0 too. dunno about secreter status as I am not in the US, or have had blood transfusions as they would have tested this if I needed another transfusion, I think this is routine then but the name is somethng differnent, like Lewis or something.

About enterolab and IgA deficiency, I have seen these questions here before, that the results are misleading incase of IgA deficiency.

nora

holiday16 Enthusiast
Thank you yet again! ^_^ I'm beginning to feel a grand connection with your son. I hope he's a daydreamer.

I've been doing my research. And as I've written before, I am a follower of the Blood Type Diet.

I am a blood type 0+ Non Secreter. And this and my symptoms lead me to believe that I have celiac.

Dr. D'Adamo's research (or the research that he sites) says that non secreters are 200% more likely to develop

celiac. MOSTLY due to an IgA deficiency!

So, I don't see me paying for all these tests if this would be the case.

I assume that, with my situation, I'd be better off checking for IgA deficiency BEFORE I go for the other tests.

It just seems on key. I'm pretty intuitive with myself.

If anyone would want the links for some of this information, I'll go ahead and post them.

Read if you're interested.

Cheers!

Open Original Shared Link),_ABO_and_Secretor_Blood_Types

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

LOL, my son is a huge daydreamer. He has his own site if you want to see him. It's terribly outdated as he's 11 now, but it will give you an idea of his other health issues. It's part of the reason we pursued seeing the GI Dr. the way we did. The second link has more recent pictures with him in:

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Paulette

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,902
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Patty6133
    Newest Member
    Patty6133
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Judy M! Yes, he definitely needs to continue eating gluten until the day of the endoscopy. Not sure why the GI doc advised otherwise but it was a bum steer.  Celiac disease has a genetic component but also an "epigenetic" component. Let me explain. There are two main genes that have been identified as providing the "potential" to develop "active" celiac disease. We know them as HLA-DQ 2.5 (aka, HLA-DQ 2) and HLA-DQ8. Without one or both of these genes it is highly unlikely that a person will develop celiac disease at some point in their life. About 40% of the general population carry one or both of these two genes but only about 1% of the population develops active celiac disease. Thus, possessing the genetic potential for celiac disease is far less than deterministic. Most who have the potential never develop the disease. In order for the potential to develop celiac disease to turn into active celiac disease, some triggering stress event or events must "turn on" the latent genes. This triggering stress event can be a viral infection, some other medical event, or even prolonged psychological/emotional trauma. This part of the equation is difficult to quantify but this is the epigenetic dimension of the disease. Epigenetics has to do with the influence that environmental factors and things not coded into the DNA itself have to do in "turning on" susceptible genes. And this is why celiac disease can develop at any stage of life. Celiac disease is an autoimmune condition (not a food allergy) that causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel. The ingestion of gluten causes the body to attack the cells of this lining which, over time, damages and destroys them, impairing the body's ability to absorb nutrients since this is the part of the intestinal track responsible for nutrient absorption and also causing numerous other food sensitivities such as dairy/lactose intolerance. There is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just, "gluten sensitivity") that is not autoimmune in nature and which does not damage the small bowel lining. However, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease such as gas, bloating, and diarrhea. It is also much more common than celiac disease. There is no test for NCGS so, because they share common symptoms, celiac disease must first be ruled out through formal testing for celiac disease. This is where your husband is right now. It should also be said that some experts believe NCGS can transition into celiac disease. I hope this helps.
    • Judy M
      My husband has had lactose intolerance for his entire life (he's 68 yo).  So, he's used to gastro issues. But for the past year he's been experiencing bouts of diarrhea that last for hours.  He finally went to his gastroenterologist ... several blood tests ruled out other maladies, but his celiac results are suspect.  He is scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in 2 weeks.  He was told to eat "gluten free" until the tests!!!  I, and he know nothing about this "diet" much less how to navigate his in daily life!! The more I read, the more my head is spinning.  So I guess I have 2 questions.  First, I read on this website that prior to testing, eat gluten so as not to compromise the testing!  Is that true? His primary care doctor told him to eat gluten free prior to testing!  I'm so confused.  Second, I read that celiac disease is genetic or caused by other ways such as surgery.  No family history but Gall bladder removal 7 years ago, maybe?  But how in God's name does something like this crop up and now is so awful he can't go a day without worrying.  He still works in Manhattan and considers himself lucky if he gets there without incident!  Advice from those who know would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Scott Adams
      You've done an excellent job of meticulously tracking the rash's unpredictable behavior, from its symmetrical spread and stubborn scabbing to the potential triggers you've identified, like the asthma medication and dietary changes. It's particularly telling that the rash seems to flare with wheat consumption, even though your initial blood test was negative—as you've noted, being off wheat before a test can sometimes lead to a false negative, and your description of the other symptoms—joint pain, brain fog, stomach issues—is very compelling. The symmetry of the rash is a crucial detail that often points toward an internal cause, such as an autoimmune response or a systemic reaction, rather than just an external irritant like a plant or mites. I hope your doctor tomorrow takes the time to listen carefully to all of this evidence you've gathered and works with you to find some real answers and effective relief. Don't be discouraged if the rash fluctuates; your detailed history is the most valuable tool you have for getting an accurate diagnosis.
    • Scott Adams
      In this case the beer is excellent, but for those who are super sensitive it is likely better to go the full gluten-free beer route. Lakefront Brewery (another sponsor!) has good gluten-free beer made without any gluten ingredients.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @catsrlife! Celiac disease can be diagnosed without committing to a full-blown "gluten challenge" if you get a skin biopsy done during an active outbreak of dermatitis herpetiformis, assuming that is what is causing the rash. There is no other known cause for dermatitis herpetiformis so it is definitive for celiac disease. You would need to find a dermatologist who is familiar with doing the biopsy correctly, however. The samples need to be taken next to the pustules, not on them . . . a mistake many dermatologists make when biopsying for dermatitis herpetiformis. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.