Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Food Cravings

LuvMoosic4life

By LuvMoosic4life
in Coping with Celiac Disease

Recommended Posts

LuvMoosic4life Collaborator
LuvMoosic4life
Posted

Does anyone feel like they want to keep eating after they have been glutened? Not neccesarrily right after it happens, but for like a day or two afterwards....

I wonder if it is because my body is robbed of nutrients when it is glutened....ugh....so frustrating, especially since I'm feeling bloated and crappy to begin with and heartburn stays with me for a few days....you would think the last thing I would want to do is keep eating....

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


AliB Enthusiast
AliB
Posted

My belief is that many of us have poor, very unbalanced gut flora with rogue bacteria and/or parasites. Some of them feed on the gluten and produce toxic by-products that contribute to our ill health.

When we don't ingest gluten the bacteria and/or parasites become dormant within our gut. Eat gluten and they are woken up and start clamouring for the stuff.

The same thing happens when you go low-carb. For a few days you crave the stuff something chronic, but eventually it settles down and you don't crave it any more. But woe betide you if you have some - the craving picks back up and you can't stop eating it! All the little beasties are in there, jumping up and down shouting 'Feed me Seymour'!

The bloating and gas is definitely an indicator of bacterial activity. Gas is a by-product of fermentation, and fermentation is caused by bacteria. Whilst good bacteria does produce a little gas, the baddies produce a lot of obnoxious stuff!

purple Community Regular
purple
Posted
My belief is that many of us have poor, very unbalanced gut flora with rogue bacteria and/or parasites. Some of them feed on the gluten and produce toxic by-products that contribute to our ill health.

When we don't ingest gluten the bacteria and/or parasites become dormant within our gut. Eat gluten and they are woken up and start clamouring for the stuff.

The same thing happens when you go low-carb. For a few days you crave the stuff something chronic, but eventually it settles down and you don't crave it any more. But woe betide you if you have some - the craving picks back up and you can't stop eating it! All the little beasties are in there, jumping up and down shouting 'Feed me Seymour'!

The bloating and gas is definitely an indicator of bacterial activity. Gas is a by-product of fermentation, and fermentation is caused by bacteria. Whilst good bacteria does produce a little gas, the baddies produce a lot of obnoxious stuff!

I love reading your informative posts. Whats the difference between "beastie" gas and "beanie" gas? :o I eat beans all the time and I don't think I have ever had a yeast infection except once about 15 years ago. I did have a bad "spit" test once when I had a toothache. Thanks for your input. ( this post should have a thread of its own called: Which is it, the beanies or the beasties? :lol: ) Beans are not my best friend, but I don't smell like the sewer thankfully like my mom did when I was little!! Sorry this was off the topic of food cravings...hey,do beasties crave beans??

AliB Enthusiast
AliB
Posted
hey, do beasties crave beans??

Quite probably!

Elaine G (SCD) suggests avoiding certain legumes during the healing process as some of them are very high-carb which feeds the bacteria, especially in those of us whose guts are damaged to the point that we do not digest carbs properly. The undigested carbs feed them, not us!

It kind of begs the question that was raised in Blazing Saddles - why would cowboys, who presumably did not particularly eat a 'bad' diet, have a problem with beans? It seems that some beans just contain components that are not very digestible.

I wonder sometimes whether we have included foods within our diet that we are not designed to eat (well we have certainly included a lot of chemicals and other rubbish in our diet and I am darn sure we were never designed to eat that!). Certain animals probably eat beans and quite likely have stomachs designed to cope with them, but does that mean that we should? I mean, Cows have two stomachs ideally designed to digest grass and Koalas eat eucalyptus leaves but I really don't fancy including them in my diet...........

Some animals are designed to eat certain foods that would actually be pretty toxic to us.

Although I do not know any personally, the stereotype of cowboys makes me think that they usually imbibed a considerable amount of alcohol - that in itself contains a high level of carbohydrate which would contribute to an unbalanced gut flora, an overgrowth of non-beneficial bacteria and plenty of fermentation during contact with beans.

I wonder whether people who have excellent gut flora actually have any problem with beans?

The problem with the little beasties is that we are totally oblivious to their presence, well, certainly until we start to see 'evidence'. Depending on the type of bacteria, or degree of imbalance, we may be blissfully unaware that we have a problem, apart from perhaps some niggling health issues, digestive excursions, or unattributable neurological conditions.

It would be so lovely if we knew which types of bacteria produced which kinds of symptoms and what to do about it, but sadly this is a field of very limited understanding - I am not sure that what IS known is even correct anyway - it is so often found that a little way down the road a 'new' discovery will completely negate any previous understanding.

Your poor Mom. I can sympathise. I'm sure there are quite a few of us who have been there at one time or another...........

  • 2 weeks later...
supernova777 Newbie
supernova777
Posted

yea thats what happens to me i had rice krispies this week by accidnet thinking they were safe and i ate off the whole box in like 2-3 days because i kept eating them

i should have realized what was goin on..

  • 3 weeks later...
ang1e0251 Contributor
ang1e0251
Posted

I can relate. Was glutened this weekend at a wedding & Sunday I was eating everything in sight! I just let myself go though, I saw it for what it was & knew I just had to "eat" my way out. Water, tea, and B12 did ease the symptoms quite a bit. If you keep a food and reaction diary, look back & read about days when you felt well for inspiration.

henny Explorer
henny
Posted

I have noticed that my appetite has really calmed down since going gluten-free.

I used to crave and crave, and my stomach would hurt from hunger all the time. I controlled it pretty well but when I did eat I would just want to stuff myself!

Since going gluten-free I am only hungry a couple times a day when it's time to eat. I am easily satisfied by small amounts.

I really think there is a link between unreasonable hunger and gluten when you have the intolerance. I think your observation is right on the money!

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


knitaddict Apprentice
knitaddict
Posted
I have noticed that my appetite has really calmed down since going gluten-free.

I used to crave and crave, and my stomach would hurt from hunger all the time. I controlled it pretty well but when I did eat I would just want to stuff myself!

Since going gluten-free I am only hungry a couple times a day when it's time to eat. I am easily satisfied by small amounts.

I really think there is a link between unreasonable hunger and gluten when you have the intolerance. I think your observation is right on the money!

I was just wondering if there was something to this....since going gluten free, I've noticed that my cravings have lessened. I was worried that the cravings would be just AWFUL....but it's really just the first couple/few days.

henny Explorer
henny
Posted
I was just wondering if there was something to this....since going gluten free, I've noticed that my cravings have lessened. I was worried that the cravings would be just AWFUL....but it's really just the first couple/few days.

I'm actually having a really hard time getting enough food in me each day because I am really not hungry!

I'm a little worried I might sabotage my metabolism by not eating enough calories...hopefully my appetite will pick up a little over time because right now it's really bleh.

mslee Apprentice
mslee
Posted
I'm actually having a really hard time getting enough food in me each day because I am really not hungry!

I'm a little worried I might sabotage my metabolism by not eating enough calories...hopefully my appetite will pick up a little over time because right now it's really bleh.

I have the same problem when I eat something I shouldn't (still trying to figure out what is safe for me and what is not) I have to force food down the next few days. Still know I am not getting enough, just have a repulsed feeling towards food.

However if I eat corn or rice it's like it's crack (well from what I have heard about crack) and I just want to eat more and more and more meanwhile I get dizzier and dizzier.

I did test positive allergic to corn and rice, so will be seeing a dietitian to help me though this.

When I get safe food in me for a day or 2 I feel great and can't eat enough.

also I have read that eating gluten produces something similar to opiates in our bodies that could explain why we would want to continue eating it despite it making us feel sick.

munchkinette Collaborator
munchkinette
Posted

Oh yeah- I totally binge eat after a glutening. This summer was the worst glutening I've had since starting the diet. Normally it takes one week to feel better, but this time it took two.

Let's put it this way- it was during a binge during this glutening that I actually stuck my finger down my throat to throw up. That is the first time in my life that I've ever done that. I felt that sick from eating that much.

I think I also tend to eat more after dairy, but I can't tell.

henny Explorer
henny
Posted
Oh yeah- I totally binge eat after a glutening. This summer was the worst glutening I've had since starting the diet. Normally it takes one week to feel better, but this time it took two.

Let's put it this way- it was during a binge during this glutening that I actually stuck my finger down my throat to throw up. That is the first time in my life that I've ever done that. I felt that sick from eating that much.

I think I also tend to eat more after dairy, but I can't tell.

it's so funny you mention that....I got my first significant accidental glutening a couple days ago.

I CAN'T STOP MUNCHING! I have had to force myself to eat for months now and suddenly after a glutening I am gulping down gluten-free goodies like crackers, cereal, and bread like there's no tomorrow!

It's really weird and bad....gotta go back to basics (raw whole foods) and hopefully it will all calm back down!

In this case I'm not stuffing myself, but sort of continually grazing. I'm not normally a snacker at all!

Bizzarre.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,902
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Patty6133
    Newest Member
    Patty6133
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      New (possible) celiac diagnosis

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the forum, @Judy M! Yes, he definitely needs to continue eating gluten until the day of the endoscopy. Not sure why the GI doc advised otherwise but it was a bum steer.  Celiac disease has a genetic component but also an "epigenetic" component. Let me explain. There are two main genes that have been identified as providing the "potential" to develop "active" celiac disease. We know them as HLA-DQ 2.5 (aka, HLA-DQ 2) and HLA-DQ8. Without one or both of these genes it is highly unlikely that a person will develop celiac disease at some point in their life. About 40% of the general population carry one or both of these two genes but only about 1% of the population develops active celiac disease. Thus, possessing the genetic potential for celiac disease is far less than deterministic. Most who have the potential never develop the disease. In order for the potential to develop celiac disease to turn into active celiac disease, some triggering stress event or events must "turn on" the latent genes. This triggering stress event can be a viral infection, some other medical event, or even prolonged psychological/emotional trauma. This part of the equation is difficult to quantify but this is the epigenetic dimension of the disease. Epigenetics has to do with the influence that environmental factors and things not coded into the DNA itself have to do in "turning on" susceptible genes. And this is why celiac disease can develop at any stage of life. Celiac disease is an autoimmune condition (not a food allergy) that causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel. The ingestion of gluten causes the body to attack the cells of this lining which, over time, damages and destroys them, impairing the body's ability to absorb nutrients since this is the part of the intestinal track responsible for nutrient absorption and also causing numerous other food sensitivities such as dairy/lactose intolerance. There is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just, "gluten sensitivity") that is not autoimmune in nature and which does not damage the small bowel lining. However, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease such as gas, bloating, and diarrhea. It is also much more common than celiac disease. There is no test for NCGS so, because they share common symptoms, celiac disease must first be ruled out through formal testing for celiac disease. This is where your husband is right now. It should also be said that some experts believe NCGS can transition into celiac disease. I hope this helps.
    • Judy M
      New (possible) celiac diagnosis

      By Judy M · Posted

      My husband has had lactose intolerance for his entire life (he's 68 yo).  So, he's used to gastro issues. But for the past year he's been experiencing bouts of diarrhea that last for hours.  He finally went to his gastroenterologist ... several blood tests ruled out other maladies, but his celiac results are suspect.  He is scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in 2 weeks.  He was told to eat "gluten free" until the tests!!!  I, and he know nothing about this "diet" much less how to navigate his in daily life!! The more I read, the more my head is spinning.  So I guess I have 2 questions.  First, I read on this website that prior to testing, eat gluten so as not to compromise the testing!  Is that true? His primary care doctor told him to eat gluten free prior to testing!  I'm so confused.  Second, I read that celiac disease is genetic or caused by other ways such as surgery.  No family history but Gall bladder removal 7 years ago, maybe?  But how in God's name does something like this crop up and now is so awful he can't go a day without worrying.  He still works in Manhattan and considers himself lucky if he gets there without incident!  Advice from those who know would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Scott Adams
      Patiently Waiting to See Results

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      You've done an excellent job of meticulously tracking the rash's unpredictable behavior, from its symmetrical spread and stubborn scabbing to the potential triggers you've identified, like the asthma medication and dietary changes. It's particularly telling that the rash seems to flare with wheat consumption, even though your initial blood test was negative—as you've noted, being off wheat before a test can sometimes lead to a false negative, and your description of the other symptoms—joint pain, brain fog, stomach issues—is very compelling. The symmetry of the rash is a crucial detail that often points toward an internal cause, such as an autoimmune response or a systemic reaction, rather than just an external irritant like a plant or mites. I hope your doctor tomorrow takes the time to listen carefully to all of this evidence you've gathered and works with you to find some real answers and effective relief. Don't be discouraged if the rash fluctuates; your detailed history is the most valuable tool you have for getting an accurate diagnosis.
    • Scott Adams
      Gluten free beer ?

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      In this case the beer is excellent, but for those who are super sensitive it is likely better to go the full gluten-free beer route. Lakefront Brewery (another sponsor!) has good gluten-free beer made without any gluten ingredients.
    • trents
      Patiently Waiting to See Results

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the forum, @catsrlife! Celiac disease can be diagnosed without committing to a full-blown "gluten challenge" if you get a skin biopsy done during an active outbreak of dermatitis herpetiformis, assuming that is what is causing the rash. There is no other known cause for dermatitis herpetiformis so it is definitive for celiac disease. You would need to find a dermatologist who is familiar with doing the biopsy correctly, however. The samples need to be taken next to the pustules, not on them . . . a mistake many dermatologists make when biopsying for dermatitis herpetiformis. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.