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Anyone Know Whats More Accurate Elisa Sensitivity Food Test Or Your Own Elimination Diet To Detect Sensitivities


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Christina98 Explorer

I have a few questions if any one out there can help it w ould be great.

I am suspecting food sensitivities.....well I did have a test through enterolabs that showed a gluten sensitivvity and mild casein.

I want to see if i have others so i can avoid them so I can heal and feel somewhat normal again.i alsio have adrenal fatigue and itis my understanding that i wont heal the adrenals if i continue to consume my sensitiviites.I just read the adrenal Fatigue 21st century stress syndrome book and i hear about the Metametrix food panel Elisa test....he also talked about detecting these sensitivitie sna d allergies yourself by avoiding then documenting then adding things back....confusing! i want to know if the panel test although expensive (and cant afford it right now) would be a quicker, more helpful, less stressful way then the other?

I want to know if it is more accurate or if anyone has done the detective work themselves with success.It seems hard and dont know if I am making it harder than it is.

I hate food right now....is what is comes down to.

Please Help if you have been down this road before.

also I do have hypoglycemia issues with to much carbs ( white stuff) so i am trying to eat more protein....so i ate eggs with sauteed veggies for breakfast and was exhausted and foggy within 5 minutes of eating it.I guess it was the eggs. I dont know what to do anymore or how and what to eat so i dont die from avoiding everything


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tarnalberry Community Regular

From everything I've read about the chemistry of all this, my answer is:

The serum tests are more precise. (Pieces of data do not vary signifcantly, and cluster around a point that may not be spot on the "answer".)

The elimination diet (done properly) is more accurate. (Pieces of data vary more significantly, but do cluster spot on the "answer".)

If you've got the time and money, I'd do both. If you don't, I'd just do the elimination diet. (Doing a *STRICT* one won't make you hate food less until your done, but you'll know that the experiment you're running on yourself will benefit you.

trents Grand Master

Good point in distinguishing between precision and accuracy. The ELISA testing results should not be looked at as definitive with regard to symptoms you actually experience. Not only is there not a particularly good correlation between the lab results and what you feel and experience when eating the foods the testing identifies as allergens or intolerance producers but the the testing process itself is often fraught with problems (cross contamination of the antigens being the chief one) that adversely affect it's reliability and consistency. All you have to do is send the same serum sample to several different labs and you would see what I mean. Each labs results would be different. Use ELISA as a place to start looking and then do the elimination trials.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

An elimination diet was how I was finally diagnosed. If you find an allergist who can help you with one, not all will, it can be really helpful. It is not however just eliminating one food at a time. The way it was done was my allergist did skin prick testing and I had to fill out forms detailing what I ususally ate and foods I seldom ate. He then picked 5 foods that would give me adaquate nutrition and I started with those. For me it was plain turkey, plain rice, peas, pineapples and sweet potatoes. I ate only those with no condiments and no spices or beverages other than cranberry juice and water. After 2 weeks I was instructed to add in one food, in pure form, 3 times a day for a week (or until I reacted). If I had a reaction I had to wait until the reaction was over before I added another food. It was a long process and quite boring foodwise at first but it did pinpoint the gluten reaction. In my opinion and my families that allergist saved my life.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast
I just read the adrenal Fatigue 21st century stress syndrome book and i hear about the Metametrix food panel Elisa test....he also talked about detecting these sensitivitie sna d allergies yourself by avoiding then documenting then adding things back....confusing!

I would be careful about that book <_<

I have a copy too. I went through the quiz and my scores were sky-high. I thought, aha! Now I know what the problem is! Then my endocrinologist ordered an ACTH stim test... and it came back perfectly NORMAL. Not even borderline normal... really, really normal. The endocrinologist said that the average person has a 1 in 50,000 chance of having Addison's disease. Someone with a thyroid disorder is 10X more likely to have Addison's, but your chances are still just 1 in 5,000.

prayin4achange Newbie
I have a few questions if any one out there can help it w ould be great.

I am suspecting food sensitivities.....well I did have a test through enterolabs that showed a gluten sensitivvity and mild casein.

I want to see if i have others so i can avoid them so I can heal and feel somewhat normal again.i alsio have adrenal fatigue and itis my understanding that i wont heal the adrenals if i continue to consume my sensitiviites.I just read the adrenal Fatigue 21st century stress syndrome book and i hear about the Metametrix food panel Elisa test....he also talked about detecting these sensitivitie sna d allergies yourself by avoiding then documenting then adding things back....confusing! i want to know if the panel test although expensive (and cant afford it right now) would be a quicker, more helpful, less stressful way then the other?

I want to know if it is more accurate or if anyone has done the detective work themselves with success.It seems hard and dont know if I am making it harder than it is.

I hate food right now....is what is comes down to.

Please Help if you have been down this road before.

also I do have hypoglycemia issues with to much carbs ( white stuff) so i am trying to eat more protein....so i ate eggs with sauteed veggies for breakfast and was exhausted and foggy within 5 minutes of eating it.I guess it was the eggs. I dont know what to do anymore or how and what to eat so i dont die from avoiding everything

I feel like you do a lot of times. I also have hypoglycemia and have realized I feel much better when I avoid almost all complex grain carbs. I know some people say it's unhealthy but from my personal experience it helps. Also I have to eat at least every 2-3 hrs. If i dont I get horrible mind fog, anger, dizziness, ect that can also occur with gluten intolerance. It might have been the eggs actually. The other morning I made scrambled eggs and felt horrible. it was the other thing I ate that was different than normal. It might just be a little while before u can add them back in. How long have u been gluten free? good luck! May Jesus Christ be with you!

Jenn

chatycady Explorer
I feel like you do a lot of times. I also have hypoglycemia and have realized I feel much better when I avoid almost all complex grain carbs. I know some people say it's unhealthy but from my personal experience it helps. Also I have to eat at least every 2-3 hrs. If i dont I get horrible mind fog, anger, dizziness, ect that can also occur with gluten intolerance. It might have been the eggs actually. The other morning I made scrambled eggs and felt horrible. it was the other thing I ate that was different than normal. It might just be a little while before u can add them back in. How long have u been gluten free? good luck! May Jesus Christ be with you!

Jenn

I can relate to the hypoglycemia and complex carbs issue. I follow the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, it works great for me. Everyone has different issues and there is no fast rule for everyone. It takes time and lots of effort to figure out the trigger foods. I'm really hoping this diet cures those other food issues. She (the author) claims that if you follow this diet faithfully the intestine will heal and one may be able to return to a normal diet (gluten free of course). I'm on month 7 and am pretty much symptom free I am hoping and praying it works.

A fellow friend in Christ. <><

chaty


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I can relate to the hypoglycemia and complex carbs issue. I follow the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, it works great for me. Everyone has different issues and there is no fast rule for everyone. It takes time and lots of effort to figure out the trigger foods. I'm really hoping this diet cures those other food issues. She (the author) claims that if you follow this diet faithfully the intestine will heal and one may be able to return to a normal diet (gluten free of course). I'm on month 7 and am pretty much symptom free I am hoping and praying it works.

A fellow friend in Christ. <><

chaty

Curious where I can find information about the Specific Carbohydrate diet? Is there a book out?

Thanks!!

jaknhk Newbie
Curious where I can find information about the Specific Carbohydrate diet? Is there a book out?

Thanks!!

psawyer Proficient
Curious where I can find information about the Specific Carbohydrate diet? Is there a book out?

Thanks!!

You can find out a lot about SCD from this thread: Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

prayin4achange Newbie
I can relate to the hypoglycemia and complex carbs issue. I follow the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, it works great for me. Everyone has different issues and there is no fast rule for everyone. It takes time and lots of effort to figure out the trigger foods. I'm really hoping this diet cures those other food issues. She (the author) claims that if you follow this diet faithfully the intestine will heal and one may be able to return to a normal diet (gluten free of course). I'm on month 7 and am pretty much symptom free I am hoping and praying it works.

A fellow friend in Christ. <><

chaty

Amen :) THank you so much for your reply. I am very interested to try this. I was eating very few complex carbs the past couple weeks and then a couple days ago I had this starving, dizzy, crazy attack and went crazy on carby foods (hummus, rice cakes, corn chips.. all gluten free things.. I really tried to avoid gluten hah) and now since then im craving them really bad. Now I'm constantly hungry, dizzy, lots of headaches and cant stop eating (esp carbs and sweet things). Your positive reaction has me really interested in this book. i've tried so many diets, so many elimination foods, so many of everything and have NO IDEA what is wrong with me!! Im still trying out this gluten thing since it's so hard to get a doctor in Mississippi to believe me and help me get an accurate test. My GI didnt even check my biopsy when I have an endoscopy done (can u believe it?! and i asked to please check haha). How soon after you started the diet did you notice a change in how you felt and how hard is the first week or two when you first start? I really really appreciate it. Thanks so much!

In Christ

jenn :)

jaknhk Newbie
I feel like you do a lot of times. I also have hypoglycemia and have realized I feel much better when I avoid almost all complex grain carbs. I know some people say it's unhealthy but from my personal experience it helps. Also I have to eat at least every 2-3 hrs. If i dont I get horrible mind fog, anger, dizziness, ect that can also occur with gluten intolerance. It might have been the eggs actually. The other morning I made scrambled eggs and felt horrible. it was the other thing I ate that was different than normal. It might just be a little while before u can add them back in. How long have u been gluten free? good luck! May Jesus Christ be with you!

Jenn

Sounds like you're doing well! What do you eat for breakfast? That is my biggest challenge!!

Thanks!

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