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Celiac 4x Higher In Ibs Patients

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happygirl Collaborator
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For article on Celiac.com: https://www.celiac.com/articles/21807/1/Cel...rers/Page1.html

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flourgirl Apprentice
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Thanks for the posting, Happy Girl! My mom, I'm convinced, is Celiac, but she won't be tested. Lately she is having some serious "bouts" but says it's just IBS. This backs up my thinking, but, like so many others, I can provide information but can't force family to test. I'm always grateful for more info. :)

happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
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This is related, as well: https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/index.ph...c=53907&hl=

Tim-n-VA Contributor
Tim-n-VA
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No. It's just IBS.

I have celiac. My oldest brother has IBS and thyroid issues. Our mother had diabetes. His daughter has an auto-immune condition that resulted in a false diagnosis of Lupus. All diseases of the immune system. He has a pill that he can take. If he doesn't take it and eats a "normal" meal he has all the classic celiac symptoms. He has to give himself B12 injections because he doesn't absorb the pill form.

But it's just IBS.

Lisa16 Collaborator
Lisa16
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I was mis-diagnosed with IBS for 23+ years. Do not be quick to exclude celiac as a possibility.

I hate the diagnosis of IBS because you are repeatedly told "there is nothing you can do about it." Furthermore, once you get stuck with that diagnosis, doctors are not so willing to do the celiac tests.

Maybe that will change now.

The only surprise to me is that the rate is ONLY 4x.

nutralady2001 Newbie
nutralady2001
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Mis diagnosed with IBS for close to 50 years............ first it was called "mucous colitis" but then IBS became "fashionable" so got that label............ all w/o testing of course :rolleyes::angry:

happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
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I read this recently, "Some call celiac disease the mockingbird syndrome because it mimics the symptoms of other health conditions like irritable bowel syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome or stress" SOURCE: Medical News Today

Interesting that Celiac is the "mockingbird sydrome" when there are objective tests to diagnose the condition (fully aware that the testing is not perfect, and doesn't catch non-celiac gluten intolerance) - but Celiac is fully defined and testable....instead of the more general, subjective, often 'diagnoses of exclusion' in IBS, fibro, cfs, or stress (when we know that generally, these syndromes are labeled without 'ruling out' other things. I would say, as a whole the Celiac tests (for Celiac, not ncgi) are better than the "tests", as a whole, for IBS, fibro, cfs, or stress.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the other diseases be mockingbird syndromes of Celiac?

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jerseyangel Proficient
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Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the other diseases be mockingbird syndromes of Celiac?

Excellent point.

Lisa16 Collaborator
Lisa16
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Oh yes! If only doctors would look at it that way instead! How many more people could be saved?

In the immortal words of Momma Goose, "thump.... thump.... thump!" Of course, she was talking about french fries at the time. But this is an even bigger head-banger.

And to make matters even worse, with IBS they tell you, "Oh, don't worry about it. Studies show there are no long term detrimental effects to your overall health."

Cancer anyone?

ravenwoodglass Mentor
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Oh yes! If only doctors would look at it that way instead! How many more people could be saved?

In the immortal words of Momma Goose, "thump.... thump.... thump!" Of course, she was talking about french fries at the time. But this is an even bigger head-banger.

And to make matters even worse, with IBS they tell you, "Oh, don't worry about it. Studies show there are no long term detrimental effects to your overall health."

Cancer anyone?

I was misdiagnosed with IBS for many many painful years. That diagnosis cost me a great deal. My signature really says it all. Folks should also bear in mind that IBS is not IMHO a 'diagnosis' of anything. It is simply a catch all term which means doctors don't want to find out what the real cause is.

Amyleigh0007 Enthusiast
Amyleigh0007
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I am another one who was "diagnosed" with IBS when I was 14. I am 34 now. It took my young son being diagnosed with Celiac for my doctor to take my complaints seriously. Twenty years of suffering....

lonewolf Collaborator
lonewolf
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I was diagnosed with IBS in college. (At first they called it "colitis", then decided it was IBS.) All my symptoms went away on the gluten-free diet. But I don't have Celiac, because I don't have the right genes. I wonder how many other people are like me - severely gluten intolerant, but not Celiac, and misdiagnosed with IBS.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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I was diagnosed with IBS in college. (At first they called it "colitis", then decided it was IBS.) All my symptoms went away on the gluten-free diet. But I don't have Celiac, because I don't have the right genes. I wonder how many other people are like me - severely gluten intolerant, but not Celiac, and misdiagnosed with IBS.

What genes were you told you have? There are 7 more genes other than DQ2 and DQ8 that are associated with celiac they just are not recognized yet in the US. Gene testing is in it's infancy, so to speak, and should not be used to say you for sure have celiac or not. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it is not a horse.

lonewolf Collaborator
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What genes were you told you have? There are 7 more genes other than DQ2 and DQ8 that are associated with celiac they just are not recognized yet in the US. Gene testing is in it's infancy, so to speak, and should not be used to say you for sure have celiac or not. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it is not a horse.

All I got back was a note saying that I was negative for DQ2 and DQ8 and therefore did NOT have Celiac. My son has double DQ3 subtype 7, so I know I have at least one copy of that.

All 4 of my children were tested (two had symptoms) and all came back negative on the whole Celiac panel. The 2 with symptoms went gluten-free anyway and have had great results. When a 14 year old decides she feels better eating gluten-free "no matter how much anyone teases me", you KNOW that there's something to it.

I don't really care that much if I actually have Celiac or not - there's no way I will EVER eat gluten again after the amazing turn around in my health.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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All I got back was a note saying that I was negative for DQ2 and DQ8 and therefore did NOT have Celiac. My son has double DQ3 subtype 7, so I know I have at least one copy of that.

All 4 of my children were tested (two had symptoms) and all came back negative on the whole Celiac panel. The 2 with symptoms went gluten-free anyway and have had great results. When a 14 year old decides she feels better eating gluten-free "no matter how much anyone teases me", you KNOW that there's something to it.

I don't really care that much if I actually have Celiac or not - there's no way I will EVER eat gluten again after the amazing turn around in my health.

I do so wish US medicine would look outside their own narrow little world. There are other genes that are associated with it and clearly recognized in other countries. Perhaps someday the US will catch up on the research. I am glad your family is doing so much better.

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