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Hi, I think I need to stop eating rice as well as all other grains.

I just need to come up with a replacement food first. I think I am going to try bean flours by Bob's Red Mill.

What was the difference from before to after for you? I still feel out of it and it has been about 6ish months gluten free I am pretty sure eliminating rice will make a difference. Did eliminating rice make you feel with it again?

Thanks, Riv

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Hi, I think I need to stop eating rice as well as all other grains.

I just need to come up with a replacement food first. I think I am going to try bean flours by Bob's Red Mill.

What was the difference from before to after for you? I still feel out of it and it has been about 6ish months gluten free I am pretty sure eliminating rice will make a difference. Did eliminating rice make you feel with it again?

Thanks, Riv

Hi Riv,

I'm planning to go grain free too. I've been reading blogs like Elana's Pantry:

http://www.elanaspantry.com/

and NoMoreCrohn's:

http://nomorecrohns.com/default.aspx

Elana bakes with coconut flour and almond flour only. I think she is now dairy free as well. Erin at NoMoreCrohn's is following the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, which is a bit different (not dairy free). There's a MONSTEROUSLY long thread in this very forum, all about the SCD (152 pages!):

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/index.php?showtopic=62006

I haven't done this quite yet, but my daughters Robin and Cheryl and Robin's husband Steven have all gone grain free and say they are feeling MUCH better! Cheryl has lupus and Addison's Disease, and has improved enormously....she isn't sleeping all the time now, and has energy to do things. Steven is now off all his medication (he has fibromyalgia, as do I), and is running 1/2 mile a day. Robin says she's lost 15 pounds.

In any case, the people here on the SCD can also give you their testimonials.....I really think grain free is the way I'm going to have to go.

Good luck!

JoAnn

P.S. I saw your post in the other forum inquiring about people from Vancouver Island. Does it count if you WANT to be from Vancouver Island? :) My husband and I keep our eyes on the real estate offerings in that area because we'd love to live there some day.....you're lucky!

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Hi, I think I need to stop eating rice as well as all other grains.

I just need to come up with a replacement food first. I think I am going to try bean flours by Bob's Red Mill.

What was the difference from before to after for you? I still feel out of it and it has been about 6ish months gluten free I am pretty sure eliminating rice will make a difference. Did eliminating rice make you feel with it again?

Thanks, Riv

Hi Riv,

Yes, I discovered that grains were the culprit in the terrible bloating and gas were I got after going gluten-free. I looked 8 months pregnant for about 2 months and grains (all kinds, rice, quinoa ammaranth) were the culprit. I have an occassional rice cake now (mostly air) and it doesn't cause problems. I have also eliminated dairy, cashews, beans and anything processed. Feeling much better. Hope it works for you!

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I'm off ALL grains right now. I used to be able to tolerate rice. But that's not working out for me these days. So, no grains for me either.

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Hi, I think I need to stop eating rice as well as all other grains.

I just need to come up with a replacement food first. I think I am going to try bean flours by Bob's Red Mill.

I've been on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for 6 weeks and it's going well. I'm doing it with my 14 year old son, who has Ulcerative Colitis. It's a bit of a challenge, but do-able.

I would suggest that you try nut flours - especially almond or pecan - and coconut flour rather than bean flours. The beans are harder to digest. There are lots of good recipes for nut and coconut flours available online. The flavor is good - MUCH better than bean flours.

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Oh yes. I have the dubious privilege of starting the SCD thread. It has worked well for me over the last 18 months, but I still have a few issues.

Those, I think are because I have not been as disciplined with it as I should have been, but particularly as far as taking probiotics and especially the yogurt.

After a long period of research and investigation over the last 18 months, although many of my health issues have gone I still have some digestive issues - but more to do with uncleared toxins. I have now come to the conclusion that, although I have now gained control of Candida pretty well, I am still battling with SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth) which does seem to be a problem for those with many health problems including gluten intolerance and diabetes, both of which I have.

I was reading a thread on an IBS forum about SIBO, and one chap said that he got rid of his and keeps it at bay by taking Kefir. He had to take it for about a year before he felt that he was really rid of it. I would suspect that pretty much any fermented/cultured food would help - live plain yogurt (especially the SCD 24-hour home-made, which has a much higher concentration of bacteria), Kefir, Kvass, Kombucha, Sauerkraut, fermented cabbage juice - you name it.

It struck me that whilst I do feel that those cultures in the World that are still relatively healthy don't eat anything like the carbs we do, and certainly no processed rubbish, what most, if not all of them have in common is that they daily consume some kind of fermented food. Even the Inuit, as I am fond of quoting, eat their putrid fermented fish. So all these cultures get good forms of probiotic cultures.

The little pathogenic beggars though, not only shouldn't be in the upper intestine, they are also capable of converting and switching off enzymes, changing and interfering with processes in the digestive tract, producing any amount of different toxins and by-products that affect us in different ways, and can even turn genes on and off! Candida alone can apparently produce under different circumstances at least 70 different toxins!

I am sure the high-grain, high-starch, high-sugar Western Diet encourages their population, whilst things like antibiotics, especially when they are used unnecessarily, kill all the gut defenders and leave it wide open to pathogenic infestation. The, until recently, uninhibited use of antibiotics has caused a major surge of resistant bacteria - a surge that Medical Science is extremely concerned about as we have the scenario of pathogenic bacteria with nothing to control them with. Antibiotics seem to have been a double-edged sword. But then don't most drugs create the same problem? Giving with one hand, but taking away with the other!

The reason I have posted this is because I feel that yes, whilst we do have issues with grains and starches, I am convinced that is due to the gut bugs. I am really going to knuckle down with the probiotics and yogurt now. It will be interesting to see if I cope better with grains and starches if I get these little beggars under control.

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I agree about the bean flours. I've ditched the grains except rice but I have cut down on that. I have noticed that I have a problem with other carbs like beans and squash. It really slows down my digestion and my weight goes up. I will reserve those for ocasional days along with potaoes.

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I went grain free just a couple of days ago, and I have to say I feel better....less bloating!

Also, I've lost 5 pounds!! :)

JoAnn

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I went grain free just a couple of days ago, and I have to say I feel better....less bloating!

Also, I've lost 5 pounds!! :)

JoAnn

That's great! The same think happened to me when I started cutting them out at the beginning of August :)

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Yes. Rice (both brown and white rice) gives me the most terrible migraines, and I was suffering from debilitating headaches non-stop until I finally figured out it was the rice. Even the smallest amount of rice will trigger it, so I cannot consume anything with any rice ingredients.

I eat quinoa, potatoes, tapioca, banana and buckwheat for starch.

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I have gone grain free since January and have found that it makes gluten-free compliance so much easier. I pretty much stick with the antiinflammatory recommendations of the Paleo diet to help lessen my rheumatoid arthritis and it has worked quite nicely. I, too, tried rice and alternative grains initially and only felt less worse. When going grain free and legume free as well I began to feel MUCH better almost overnight.

CS

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