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Monklady123

By Monklady123
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Monklady123
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I made pork bbq the other day. Cooked a pork roast in the crockpot with water and some vinegar. The vinegar was "white distilled vinegar" which is supposedly gluten free.

Then after it had cooked for awhile I took off most of the liquid, shredded the meat (on a clean cutting board, using two clean forks). Then I added bottled bbq sauce (yes, I'm lazy, lol). Here's what's in that:

corn syrup

water

tomato juice

vinegar

food starch-modified

honey

salt

paprika

molasses

natural hickory smoke flavor

spice

mustard flour

guar gum

caramel color

garlic and onion powder

some artificial color

No allergen listing at all. I called the company and they're calling the distributor and getting back to me.

But I just wondered if you all had any ideas. I've googled all the suspect things and I see that any smoke flavor might be from barley, which wouldn't have to be listed under the allergens.

Well anyway, just wondered what you all thought. I really should just make my own. Is it hard to make bbq sauce? If that's a dumb question please don't laugh. :P I hate to cook.

Oh, and of course the reason I'm asking all this is that I was sick yesterday and still feeling a bit icky today. That was Saturday night and I had nothing else to eat on Saturday that could have glutened me. I'm sure about that because I ate at home on Saturday. Grits for breakfast, an apple with peanut butter for snack, salad for lunch with the usual stuff and same salad dressing that I always eat (same bottle that's already opened and I've already eaten half of it with no ill effects.)

sigh... :ph34r:

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snifter Apprentice
snifter
Posted

Food starch modified ?

kareng Grand Master
kareng
Posted

A lot of BBQ sauces are gluten-free but maybe not all. What brand did you use? I use a local brand and sometimes KC Masterpiece regular flavor which I saw somewhere is gluten-free. ( maybe their website?). I heard that Sweet baby rays brand is too.

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Monklady123
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A lot of BBQ sauces are gluten-free but maybe not all. What brand did you use? I use a local brand and sometimes KC Masterpiece regular flavor which I saw somewhere is gluten-free. ( maybe their website?). I heard that Sweet baby rays brand is too.

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Karen, it was the local store brand, Giant Food.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

Food starch modified ?

If it was wheat, it would have to say so. It is usually tapioca or corn.

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Monklady123
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If it was wheat, it would have to say so. It is usually tapioca or corn.

Yes, thanks to this board I know about the modified food starches. But I'm suspicious about the smoke flavoring or where it says "spices". I guess the bottom line is that it's best not to trust anything processed like this unless I've seen a specific reply from the company to say it has no gluten ingredients.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

No grain product can be listed as "spices" in an ingredient list in Canada or the United States. In both countries, wheat is a top allergen which can not be hidden.

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starrytrekchic Apprentice
starrytrekchic
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I wouldn't trust the cutting board, if you used to use it with gluten things (esp if it's wood.)

What all did you have to drink?

sunnybabi1986 Contributor
sunnybabi1986
Posted

I made this recipe awhile back and it was delicious! You make your own BBQ sauce, pour it over the meat, and cook in the crock pot(like you did) until it's nice and soft...just be sure to use a gluten free soy sauce like La Choy :)

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p.s. I just subbed white vinegar for white wine vinegar, I don't think it makes any difference :)

kate1 Newbie
kate1
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Theres a really good forbidden list on the home page on here and a safe list and also some possibles that possibly maybe derived from wheat.

I had a similar experience with some gluten free gravy mix and just could not work out what it was that made me so ill. Mine also had caramel in but caramel powder and only going from memory but thought I read it can be a possible can caramel as derived from wheat.Have a look at the list on there it is really long but useful as I am not sure I am remembering right.

my stomach reacted almost immediately to the gravy and I had the runs ALL night.

Mine also had garlic powder, onion powder, mushroom powder and lots of other stuff.

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Monklady123
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No grain product can be listed as "spices" in an ingredient list in Canada or the United States. In both countries, wheat is a top allergen which can not be hidden.

Yah, I know they have to list wheat. But if something has barley in it are they required to list "gluten"? I know they don't have to list the actual barley since that's not a top allergen. Whatever I was reading earlier said that "smoke flavoring" can be made from grain, but I'm wondering if that grain has to be wheat or could it be barley?

In any case, I won't be buying this brand anymore. :ph34r:

Monklady123 Collaborator
Monklady123
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I made this recipe awhile back and it was delicious! You make your own BBQ sauce, pour it over the meat, and cook in the crock pot(like you did) until it's nice and soft...just be sure to use a gluten free soy sauce like La Choy :)

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p.s. I just subbed white vinegar for white wine vinegar, I don't think it makes any difference :)

Thanks for this recipe. It looks pretty easy, even for a non-cook like me! I've added it to my recipe folder and I'll try it next time. :)

Marlie Apprentice
Marlie
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I made pork bbq the other day. Cooked a pork roast in the crockpot with water and some vinegar. The vinegar was "white distilled vinegar" which is supposedly gluten free.

Then after it had cooked for awhile I took off most of the liquid, shredded the meat (on a clean cutting board, using two clean forks). Then I added bottled bbq sauce (yes, I'm lazy, lol). Here's what's in that:

corn syrup

water

tomato juice

vinegar

food starch-modified

honey

salt

paprika

molasses

natural hickory smoke flavor

spice

mustard flour

guar gum

caramel color

garlic and onion powder

some artificial color

No allergen listing at all. I called the company and they're calling the distributor and getting back to me.

But I just wondered if you all had any ideas. I've googled all the suspect things and I see that any smoke flavor might be from barley, which wouldn't have to be listed under the allergens.

Well anyway, just wondered what you all thought. I really should just make my own. Is it hard to make bbq sauce? If that's a dumb question please don't laugh. :P I hate to cook.

Oh, and of course the reason I'm asking all this is that I was sick yesterday and still feeling a bit icky today. That was Saturday night and I had nothing else to eat on Saturday that could have glutened me. I'm sure about that because I ate at home on Saturday. Grits for breakfast, an apple with peanut butter for snack, salad for lunch with the usual stuff and same salad dressing that I always eat (same bottle that's already opened and I've already eaten half of it with no ill effects.)

sigh... :ph34r:

I would be suspect of artificial color, smoke flavor, modified food starch means although its not wheat it can be barley, mustard flour.

Keela Newbie
Keela
Posted

Here is my BBQ sauce recipe, it's easy and takes 10 min.

BBQ sauce aka Sassy Sauce

Yields 3 cups

2 cups ketchup

1/2 cup brown sugar

1/4 cup cider vinegar

1/2 teaspoon red pepper

1/2 teaspoon paprika

1/2 teaspoon celery salt

1/2 teaspoon salt

2 teaspoons garlic powder

1/2 cup prepared yellow mustard

1 tablespoon chili powder

1 tablespoon ground black pepper

2 teaspoons dales or liquid smoke seasoning

2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce

2 tablespoons canola oil

Combine everything except oil and bring to a boil. Boil for 2 min. Simmer for 8 min

Remove from heat and whisk in oil.

That's it!

Keela Newbie
Keela
Posted

Here is my BBQ sauce recipe, it's easy and takes 10 min.

BBQ sauce aka Sassy Sauce

Yields 3 cups

2 cups ketchup

1/2 cup brown sugar

1/4 cup cider vinegar

1/2 teaspoon red pepper

1/2 teaspoon paprika

1/2 teaspoon celery salt

1/2 teaspoon salt

2 teaspoons garlic powder

1/2 cup prepared yellow mustard

1 tablespoon chili powder

1 tablespoon ground black pepper

2 teaspoons dales or liquid smoke seasoning

2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce

2 tablespoons canola oil

Combine everything except oil and bring to a boil. Boil for 2 min. Simmer for 8 min

Remove from heat and whisk in oil.

That's it!

Did you check your pork? I have bought roast before that had wheat flour on it to help with browning... It's annoying really

pacificfords Newbie
pacificfords
Posted

I thought I read somewhere on the site that caramel color can have gluten. I may have read it somewhere elase, but the article was talking about some coca cola products that might not be gluten free because of the caramel color. I am new... just chiming in. :) I have LOTS to learn, but I wondered about that.

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
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Yah, I know they have to list wheat. But if something has barley in it are they required to list "gluten"? I know they don't have to list the actual barley since that's not a top allergen. Whatever I was reading earlier said that "smoke flavoring" can be made from grain, but I'm wondering if that grain has to be wheat or could it be barley?

In any case, I won't be buying this brand anymore. :ph34r:

Spices? Caramel colour? artificial colour? IDK...

I don't think they have to speficy barley (or gluten in general), only wheat.

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
Posted

Did you check your pork? I have bought roast before that had wheat flour on it to help with browning... It's annoying really

eeeewwww!! Why would they do such a thing?!?!?

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
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Spices? Caramel colour? artificial colour? IDK...

I don't think they have to speficy barley (or gluten in general), only wheat.

As posted above, grain products can not be labeled as "Spices." Spices, as an ingredient, is gluten-free.

Caramel color is one of those celiac urban myths that just won't go away.

Here is Shelley Case's take on it, from Gluten-Free Diet A Comprehensive Resource Guide:

Although gluten-containing ingredients (barley malt syrup and starch hydrolysates) can be used in the production of caramel color, North American companies use corn as it has a longer shelf life and makes a superior product. European companies use glucose derived from wheat starch, however caramel color is highly processed and contains no gluten.
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Monklady123 Collaborator
Monklady123
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Thanks Peter. :) I've started a folder in Evernote where I'm keeping on the info on things like caramel color, modified food starch, etc. -- all the ones that we persist in getting wrong. :rolleyes: So much to remember... I can't imagine my gluten-free life without this board and its wealth of information.

I still haven't heard back from the bbq sauce company so I can't give an answer yet.

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
Posted

As posted above, grain products can not be labeled as "Spices." Spices, as an ingredient, is gluten-free.

Caramel color is one of those celiac urban myths that just won't go away.

Here is Shelley Case's take on it, from Gluten-Free Diet A Comprehensive Resource Guide:

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Where can I get an updated list of gluten free stuff? I had just read in a book I got from the library that caramel color and spices possibly contained gluten

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Where can I get an updated list of gluten free stuff? I had just read in a book I got from the library that caramel color and spices possibly contained gluten

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