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Ate Gluten Yesterday ... Flu Like Symptoms?

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possiblyglutensensitive
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Hi,

Maybe I am totally off here but I ate a bag od Doritos yesterday and I noticed they have wheat flour in them.

I went to the store and bought a bag, i was craving them so badly for days and when I got home I checked the ingredients and there was wheat flour in them...... I admit I saw that before i ate them and ate them anyway, I caved. It had been 2 months I had been gluten-free and I've been feeling better.

Anyway today I have nausea and pretty bad heartburn. :( and I am achy like when you are getting a cold, plus sore eyes, headache, light chills and tired. Just like when you start to get a cold... Maybe I AM getting a cold, and it is pure coincidence. Just wondering if it could be gluten related.

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lynnelise
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Hi,

Maybe I am totally off here but I ate a bag od Doritos yesterday and I noticed they have wheat flour in them.

I went to the store and bought a bag, i was craving them so badly for days and when I got home I checked the ingredients and there was wheat flour in them...... I admit I saw that before i ate them and ate them anyway, I caved. It had been 2 months I had been gluten-free and I've been feeling better.

Anyway today I have nausea and pretty bad heartburn. :( and I am achy like when you are getting a cold, plus sore eyes, headache, light chills and tired. Just like when you start to get a cold... Maybe I AM getting a cold, and it is pure coincidence. Just wondering if it could be gluten related.

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I would say yes. All these symptoms can be caused by gluten. I always get stomach issues immediately if I'm glutened and then flu like symptoms for days after. Cheating isn't worth it to me!

ciavyn Contributor
ciavyn
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When I get glutened, those are my symptoms too. :( Sorry.

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
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What causes that? Can you link some articles that talk about those symptoms?

eatmeat4good Enthusiast
eatmeat4good
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That is what gluten does.

Flu-like symptoms...big time.

Once it is out of your system for good, then any tiny amount can cause a severe reaction for some people. There are lots of posts on here about it. One is titled What are your glutened symptoms? The same symptoms happen to a lot of people.

The exact same thing happened to me when I first went gluten free.

I had been reading that Doritos were safe (some kinds are) I lost that part in my mind. Picked up the Nacho Cheese Doritos, ate a few, got suddenly ill, then read the bag. Oops.

I was so completely ill, I thought it was another disease...not gluten.

However I did get better, but it took several days.

You can expect that even tiny amounts of cross contamination will cause just as big a reaction- they do for me and for many others.

Hope you feel better soon.

srall Contributor
srall
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My first mishap was about 8 weeks after going gluten free. I was on vacation and thought I'd just be one of those people who had gluten when it was too hard to be gluten free. (I had gone gluten free on a detox diet and felt great). I had NO idea what gluten did after your system was detoxed. I am sorry to tell you this but I had flu like symptoms for 3 weeks and slept about 16 hours a day. I also had a lovely rash from which I still have a couple of scars. The upshot is that I am extremely diligent about my diet now. Hope you feel better soon.

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
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thanks for the thread title "What are your glutened symptoms?". I'll go look.

It had been 8 weeks gluten-free for me as well!

I had also read that Doritos were gluten-free and once i got the bag home, I read the ingredients and had them anyway :( I though what the heck, I can handle cheating... we'll see how it goes.

Mayber I AM coming down with a cold.... I had been feeling tired for a couple of days... But i do have bad cramps and nausea this morning.... Is it possible to get cramps and nausea for days (or longer) after having just a BIT of wheat flour??

Oh and the other food that doesn't sit well with me is ice cream. I LOVE ice cream and we have a great, gluten-free local brand here and I love it. But it gives me a lot of gastro symptoms (which cheese and yogurt do not. oh and I NEVER drink milk). Why does ice cream bother me so much? (It is LABELED gluten-free so it can't be CC)?

I'll go look at the other thread.

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Monklady123
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thanks for the thread title "What are your glutened symptoms?". I'll go look.

It had been 8 weeks gluten-free for me as well!

I had also read that Doritos were gluten-free and once i got the bag home, I read the ingredients and had them anyway :( I though what the heck, I can handle cheating... we'll see how it goes.

Mayber I AM coming down with a cold.... I had been feeling tired for a couple of days... But i do have bad cramps and nausea this morning.... Is it possible to get cramps and nausea for days (or longer) after having just a BIT of wheat flour??

Oh and the other food that doesn't sit well with me is ice cream. I LOVE ice cream and we have a great, gluten-free local brand here and I love it. But it gives me a lot of gastro symptoms (which cheese and yogurt do not. oh and I NEVER drink milk). Why does ice cream bother me so much? (It is LABELED gluten-free so it can't be CC)?

I'll go look at the other thread.

Cheese and yogurt are not high in lactose but ice cream is. The little villi things in your intestines are where lactase "lives" (lactase is the enzyme that breaks down lactose). So when the villi are damaged by gluten you won't have any, or enough, lactase. So lactose will make you sick. Many people can go back to eating lactose after they heal from the gluten damage. For me, I found that taking a lactaid pill is enough for me to have about 3/4 cup of milk or ice cream. Any more and I need a second pill. Or you can try the lactose-free milks or ice cream. I tried that though and didn't like any of them. So the pills work for me. Hope that helps. :)

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
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Several flavors of Doritos are indeed gluten-free, although it's possible that cross contamination could be a problem, but the originals are not. So, you can eat Doritos if you want to give it a shot. I eat the Cool Ranch occasionally.

richard

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
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Thanks all.

I am not sure I have villi damage though. My blood test was negative (tTG) and I have not had a biopsy...

but thanks for the info on Yogurt, cheese, ice cream and lactose.

Monklady123 Collaborator
Monklady123
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Thanks all.

I am not sure I have villi damage though. My blood test was negative (tTG) and I have not had a biopsy...

but thanks for the info on Yogurt, cheese, ice cream and lactose.

I haven't had a biopsy either because I refuse to put myself through six weeks (or more!) of the misery that would come from eating gluten for the gluten challenge. But -- in the absence of medical "results" I just go by how I feel. Milk/ice cream without lactaid = feeling awful. Milk/ice cream plus lactaid = feeling fine. Same with gluten, even without official biopsy results. Eat it, feel awful. Don't eat it, feel good. It's a "no brainer" as my teenage kids would say. :lol:

possiblyglutensensitive Explorer
possiblyglutensensitive
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I haven't had a biopsy either because I refuse to put myself through six weeks (or more!) of the misery that would come from eating gluten for the gluten challenge. But -- in the absence of medical "results" I just go by how I feel. Milk/ice cream without lactaid = feeling awful. Milk/ice cream plus lactaid = feeling fine. Same with gluten, even without official biopsy results. Eat it, feel awful. Don't eat it, feel good. It's a "no brainer" as my teenage kids would say. :lol:

:)

But lactose intolerance doesn't necesseraly come from villi damage, does it?

shopgirl Contributor
shopgirl
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:)

But lactose intolerance doesn't necesseraly come from villi damage, does it?

Not necessarily. Plenty of people are lactose intolerant with zero gluten issues or villi damage.

Unfortunately, we just weren't supposed to eat as much dairy as we do.

Monklady123 Collaborator
Monklady123
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:)

But lactose intolerance doesn't necesseraly come from villi damage, does it?

Not always, no. But for me it does because I've never had any problem with lactose. I used to drink at least three glasses of milk every day, plus have it on cereal in the morning. Lots of ice cream in the summer. Never any stomach/intestinal problems at all. Until the gluten-intolerance. So for me, that's the cause. At least for now. Who knows if I'll be able to go back to having that much milk every day. Not sure I want to try. (and yes, I take calcium supplements now.)

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glutenfreesavvy
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I suppose it could be coincidence, but I don't think so. Small amounts of gluten cc can put me in bed for days with severe flu-like symptoms, along with a severe, migraine-like headache. I've been gluten-free since Jan '07 & still surprised at times how sensitive I am to gluten cc. Thankfully, I've noticed the longer I've been gluten-free, the faster I seem to recover from accidental cc, although my symptoms are not less severe. :(

I would encourage you to listen to your body, even if it seems weird that such a small amount of gluten can make you so sick. Gluten is an "invader" - big or small. :)

Warmly,

Faydra

p.s. fresh/dried ginger and/or peppermint tea, along with a rich stock that's full of minerals would be helpful for your symptoms. I hope your feeling better soon!

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