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How Did You Heal Your Gut? Besides Giving Up Gluten...


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IrishHeart Veteran

A study showing that grains can be contaminated: Open Original Shared Link

 

Tricia Thompson RD  (whom I have conversed with via email) and Anne Lee, RD who I had the pleasure of meeting and talking with for over an hour at a Gluten Free Living conference inOrlando last spring co-authored that article and I specifically asked Ms. Lee about this study. She had presented a lecture earlier that day about the need for incorporating grains into the G F diet because she knows their nutritional importance.

 

She stressed that certified G F grains are not the problem.

 

Let's look at the conclusion of the study:

 

 

We concluded that “the findings of the current study indicate that some inherently gluten-free grains, seeds, and flours not labeled gluten-free are contaminated with gluten. This potential risk of contamination is a health concern for people with celiac disease, who must follow a gluten-free diet. The consumption of these products can lead to inadvertent gluten intake.”

 

1) some inherently G F grains, seeds and flours

2) NOT LABELED G F

3) "potential" risk

 

 

In other words, just to be safe, celiacs may wish to avoid THOSE not labeled G F......and eat  grains for their nutritional value. 

 

The vast majority of celiacs can and do heal their gut lining while eating G F grains. 


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A study showing celiacs continuing to experience symptoms when they were on a special diet: Open Original Shared Link

They do allow rice.

"All cereal grains aside from rice are prohibited."

 

 

yes, however, after the trial of that "Fasano diet" as it is now dubbed, the conclusion was 

 

"Of the 14 patients who responded to the diet, 11 (79%) successfully returned to their previous traditional GFD without resurgence of symptoms or elevated serology."

 

Eating mass-market  G F grains. 

 

Even the leading celiac researchers think it's okay to eat rice. The people in the study did not cut out grains and they still healed their gut linings, so I am sorry but I honestly do not see why you use these two small studies as refutation of the statement gemini made.

Pauliewog Contributor

When I went gluten-free I struggled with what to eat. Then on the forum here I read about Paleo and Mark's Daily Apple. It wasn't until I started eating that way that I started to feel better. I eat all whole foods that I prepare myself. Any sweets (except for chocolate) I make myself. Any baked goods I make myself. Nothing processed other than the raw ingredients I need to make things. My meals center around a lot of vegetables with a bit of meat/fish. I do eat rice sometimes and I eat rice crackers every now and then.

icelandgirl Proficient

Hi Pauliwog...what do you bake with? Since you're not doing grains do you do almond flour?

dilettantesteph Collaborator

The comments from Irishheart make realize that I need to work harder to be more clear.  I gave the references to those studies because I thought the OP might want to read them because they are relevant to her question to me asking if I cut grains from my diet to heal.

IrishHeart Veteran

The comments from Irishheart make realize that I need to work harder to be more clear.  I gave the references to those studies because I thought the OP might want to read them because they are relevant to her question to me asking if I cut grains from my diet to heal.

 

Actually, no.. I thought you were pretty clear.  That's not why you posted them originally.. You posted them to refute a statement Gemini made earlier in the thread.

I say this because you quoted her before answering with those study links (why else would you post them directly after her comment?). 

 

And anyone reading the thread knows that you quoted Gemini's sentence because they saw it. Now, you are changing what you are saying was your intention because I raised some points that show the studies did not really support your attempt to  refute her comment.

 

You have since come back and edited that part out. 

 

but I have the email notice right here:

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There is no proof that cutting out all grains will help a person heal faster. 
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A study showing that grains can be contaminated: 
https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/blog/Naturally-Gluten-Free-Grains-and-
Gluten-Contamination/6 (https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/blog/Naturally-
Gluten-Free-Grains-and-Gluten-Contamination/6)
 
A study showing celiacs continuing to experience symptoms when they 
were on a special diet: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-230X/13/40
They do allow rice.
"All cereal grains aside from rice are prohibited."

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I would not have posted a lengthy response to you for no reason. That would make no sense and I would not waste my time or the reader's time.   

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I didn't edit that out to try to hide something.  I edited it out to try to make my meaning more clear.  Please don't make accusations.


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