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Gluten Rages


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VioletBlue Contributor

I ate something about three days ago, I do not know what, but the depression and rage came back with a vengance. I've been gluten free for almost three months now and thankfully the terrible depression and rage went away . . . until now. I've narrowed it down to either the over the counter pain reliever that TopCare swears is gluten free or some kind of accidental contamination at work.

How long does it usually take for the depression and rage to subside for those who have those symptoms?

Do other allergies cause this same phenomena? Does soy or corn or lactose allergies or intolerances affect the nervous system the same way? I can't keep doing this, it's just too devestating. How do other people manage to work and carry on with their lives through something like this? It wasn't so bad when it was a way of life, but now it's just so much worse. I want to be happy again! :(

violet


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2kids4me Contributor

I think a number of foods can cause adverse reactions like you describe. Years ago, I remember watching show about food allergies and children/behavior. Once I saw the segement, I realized how little I knew about these things.

They had a boy (about 7 or 8yrs old), playing quietly in a room , sharing toys with an adult, smiling...then they fed him peas (the mom had recorded it because the doctors did not believe peas could do this).

Within 5 minutes, this kid went berserk - shouting, angry, threw a chair, threw himself on the floor and sobbed then banged his head against the wall on purpose.

Yup ..........foods can cause a rage type reaction.

Sandy

celiacgirls Apprentice

Casein causes a rage reaction in my daughter even worse than gluten does.

UR Groovy Explorer

Hi VioletBlue,

Anything with dairy causes me to get really depressed for a couple days, but no anxiety with diary. Anxiety for me comes with Gluten & chocolate, which leads to angry feelings. My family & I decided a long time ago that I was only allowed to eat chocolate before bed & that way, "nobody gets hurt". Man, I used to be so full of rage. I hated being that way.

Again, everyone has different manifestations to different things.

Hope you feel better soon.

Kat

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LittleZoe Apprentice

Wow, I can't believe gluten can do this. I've been sooooooo depressed and exhausted the past 1.5 wks. I just found out today something I ate the weekend the depression came back had wheat in it! Could it possibly be making me feel this depressed and for this long? How long does it take you to feel better when it happens? I was feeling so good 2-3 weeks ago.

Yenni Enthusiast

I get just as weird on Casein as on Gluten myself. :angry:;)

loraleena Contributor

My co-workers son get anger from fructose.


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jitters Apprentice

For me its certain brands of coffee... some make me angry while others make me extremely sad.

  • 4 weeks later...
elye Community Regular

For our own selfish celiac purposes ;) , those on this thread should PLEASE go to the thread about getting in touch with Oprah, which started a couple of weeks ago. We've been trying for eons to come up with a way to get Oprah to finally listen and do an entire show on this devastating, common illness. Really attention-getting symptoms is likely the way. Some of your stories are eye-opening and if you sent them to her, it may finally happen!

mftnchn Explorer

Allergists who work with food intolerances have been aware of this for years; but not all allergists are.

My allergist has done a type of provocative food testing which is "titrated" for the dose that "turns off" symptoms. Children can then get this in a daily drop under the tongue.

At one point in my life, I was in his office daily for 7 weeks over a summer. Usually up to 6 people were being tested at a time, including my own very young children and other children as well.

You would see a whole variety of emotional and behavioral changes clearly related to these dosages which were changed every 10 minutes, and then would eventually go away with the correct dose.

My son did have one rage; he got very angry at his sister for no reason, I had to take him out and walk around with him outside for 10 minutes. He would get silly and giggly, very sleepy, grumpy, or hyperactive. My very young daughter would curl up in a little ball on a blanket and be unresponsive, depressed, sleepy.

There is a book out, sorry can't remember the author but it starts with a Th. First wrote about food intolerances and chemical intolerances. Some amazing stories in that book about psychiatric patients and food intolerances. Where a perfectly normal person after eating a food became crazy, suicidal. This was done in a controlled hospital environment.

angelbender Newbie

For me it was caffeine. I used to have what I called panic attacks (rages included for free) and I realized that when I gave up caffeine, they were 75% gone. Then when I went sugarfree, they were

gone gone gone all gone. Well I'm bk on sugar now but I only get a caffeine pop at the maximum of once a week......and I don't usually do that. My "panic attacks" don't seem to have reappeared even tho I'm going thru one of the most difficult episodes in my life......getting Celiac, getting laid off, feel terrible with Fibromyalgia and no job yet.......but hangin' in there with a positive outlook and surprisingly not getting too freaked out. Go figure. :unsure:

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