Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Neuropathy Getting Worse


mbr22m

Recommended Posts

mbr22m Rookie

Hi all,

I was diagnosed with celiac about ten years ago through biopsy and blood test. About 5 years after going gluten-free, I started having neurological symptoms (tingling, cool like numbness in my hands). It was during a stressful time in my life. I went to a neurologist and she did an eval to check my reflexes, balance etc and it was fine. I increased my B12 and it went away. Now, It returned and much worse. It's mostly at night and I wake up with numb, tingling hands and feet and patches on my legs. I'm really scared and started researching on here and it seems to be common. Has anyone else has this happen after being gluten-free for so long? I know it's not CC because my GI just ran a battery of tests to see if I was still inadvertently being exposed and all came back negative. I have another appointment with neurologist for the nerve conduction study.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nvsmom Community Regular

If you have been gluten-free for that long, I would doubt that celiac disease is the main cause.  Sometimes celiac disease will give symptoms that cannot be fixed and then it will get worse as time goes by.  It is not that celiac disease is affecting it now, but time is making something worse... That is the only way I could see it linked to celiac disease.

 

Good luck with the test. I hope you get it figured out.  :(

GF Lover Rising Star

I agree with Nicole.  Most likely not Celiac Related.  Do check for additional AI Disease that may have popped up.

 

Colleen

KEMB Rookie

Have your neurologist check on vit B6 levels (pyroxidine).  I've been gluten free more than 10 years but recently discovered I have toxic levels of B6 in my blood even though I was not taking very high B6 supplements, but still well above the MDR.  You have to check the blood levels, because numbness/tingling (which I have) is a symptom of both high and low B6.  There are also many other symtoms than may occur with B6 toxicity.

mbr22m Rookie

Thank you all :-) I do take B complex everyday, along with a protein shake every morning that has a lot of vitamins in it. I'll get the B6 checked. I know calcium, D, magnesium, potassium and B12 are all normal.

mbr22m Rookie

I'm just do tired.. every month, It's something different to the point that my primary care thinks I'm a neurotic hypochondriac. . I'm tired of being asked if I'm under a lot of stress, then handed a rx for xanax.. Does it ever get better?

KEMB Rookie

I'm just do tired.. every month, It's something different to the point that my primary care thinks I'm a neurotic hypochondriac. . I'm tired of being asked if I'm under a lot of stress, then handed a rx for xanax.. Does it ever get better?

It's too soon for me to say how quickly the B6 toxicity symtoms go away - especially the neurological ones which people say can take longer - but it does seem that some are subsiding, including the fatigue.  Just very tired some days but most are better.  My PCP did the complete blood count, complete metabolic panel, thyroid TSH, and vitamin D blood tests and all were fine so it stopped there.  Like you, I felt the symptoms were being written off as stress and/or depression.  I found the neurologist on my own and he ordered several other tests, including the B12, B6, glucose tolerance, ANA autoimmune panel, glycohemoglobin, and immunoelectrophoresis serum blood tests.   I continued to try to push through my fatigue throughout all of this and stick with my exercise program as much as possible, even if I could barely get through it.  I think that puts you in a better place to recover from.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

You might also consider seeing a chiropracter.. Since it mainly comes on at night and while you are sleeping it could be something simple like a misalignment pressing on some nerves. 

cristiana Veteran

You might have something called ulnar compression - my hands and fingers are sometimes numb when I wake up (plus tingle during the day sometimes). The nerve conduction study will find that out for you.  I go through periods of patches of tingling on my arm, face and legs and stress seems to set it off.  I am sure it is either deficiency or too much of one vitamin or mineral and I need to get it tested, really.  I agree, B6 needs to be looked at. 

icelandgirl Proficient

I'm just do tired.. every month, It's something different to the point that my primary care thinks I'm a neurotic hypochondriac. . I'm tired of being asked if I'm under a lot of stress, then handed a rx for xanax.. Does it ever get better?

Aww...that's such a hard way to feel. ((((Hugs)))). I've felt the same way and absolutely hate going to the Dr. I get so much anxiety going that I have to sit in the waiting room doing deep breathing until they call me. Then they're so impressed by my BP...wow 105/67...or something similar. What they don't realize is that I've had to get myself into a semi meditative state to get in there. Lol!

Anyway...it does at times feel like there's always something and yes,in fact, that in itself can make us anxious.

I think definitely have B6 checked. I'm pretty sure those B's can build up in your system and that too much B6 can cause neuro issues. If it's not that...maybe it's time to look at another AI. That's no fun, I know, but seems to happen to a lot of us.

Hang in there and keep us posted!

mbr22m Rookie

Thank you all :) Yes icelandgirl, Just thinking about having to see another doctor gives me anxiety too. My mother has 4 AI diseases (lupus, AI hepatitis, sjogrens and hashi) so I am always worried about heading down the same path. I swear she has celiac too but she refuses to even try going gluten-free to see if she improves, and her health continues to decline. Thanks ravenwoodglass, I have appt with my chiropractor Friday for an alignment. I hunch over a computer all day so maybe it could be a pinched nerve. I hope!

  • 2 weeks later...
Ed in Baja Rookie

Actually, there are many case studies showing that neuro problems can progress in the absence of gluten in the diet. I found them when I was puzzled as to why my symptoms progressed. Its most common in people who present with neuro problems, and may have very few classic celiac gut issues. That was my case.It's also clear that therapies such as an appropriate exercise program, physical therapy, acuncture, massage can help, and it sounds like there are a lot of people responding to you about vitamin problems, that's the great thing about this site.

Don't despair! I have the hand issues also, but it is a minor nuisance compared with the other neuro problems. I try to focus on what I CAN do.

Hang in there!

mbr22m Rookie

Thanks, Ed. I saw the neurologist and she suspects that low iron may be the cause and is running an iron panel. It does get discouraging when I eat healthy, exercise and take vitamins and still have issues that don't seem to improve, but I try and be grateful for the days I feel good :-) Neurologist said it is possibly restless leg syndrome, but still arranged for nerve conduction study. Still waiting on that appt. I still don't understand how that could explain tingling in hands though. Hopefully iron panel might reveal answers. Also found out my vitamin D was on the low side (I thought it was ok)

frieze Community Regular

Thanks, Ed. I saw the neurologist and she suspects that low iron may be the cause and is running an iron panel. It does get discouraging when I eat healthy, exercise and take vitamins and still have issues that don't seem to improve, but I try and be grateful for the days I feel good :-) Neurologist said it is possibly restless leg syndrome, but still arranged for nerve conduction study. Still waiting on that appt. I still don't understand how that could explain tingling in hands though. Hopefully iron panel might reveal answers. Also found out my vitamin D was on the low side (I thought it was ok)

always get your lab results, with norms!  good luck

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,331
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kristy2026
    Newest Member
    Kristy2026
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.