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Can't Take This Anymore


Kody

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I can't take this anymore. I'm out of it. I feel like I'm dead. Just now, I was talking on my cell phone and then all of the sudden I realized my phone was missing. It wasn't sitting on my desk anymore. I looked everywhere for it, for about five minutes, and then I realized that I was using the phone. Duh.

Earlier this morning, I completely walked to the wrong car. Didn't even look anything like mine. After that, at the MDV, I was there to take a motorcycle written test and read a sign that said road test - I walked there not even realizing that I was going the wrong way.

etc etc... all these things are normal, happen CONSTANTLY. No exaggeration... of course I have other problems like tired as hell, asthma, freezing cold hands from anemia, headaches, dizziness, sensation of passing out... shakiness, feeling really shakey and weak right now for no reason. Etc. symptoms I'm sure a lot of us have. All Celiac-related, I think.

In my Intro to Writing class, I was talking with my group and we decided that I'd come up with the actual proposal for our proposal speech. I said okay, but whose going to come up with the solution? Duh, the solution is the proposal. I can't think. I was embarrased, but it didn't affect me because I'm so used to it.

I'm not emo. I try not to complain. I don't like talking about my condition because people don't like hearing it. I just realize that I have a problem. A SERIOUS problem and I cannot continue anymore. I seriously think that being in this pizza factory, just the smell, is making me sick. Who knows. I've only been gluten free for one month and got glutened once.

I can't do this. I can't even focus on the road when I drive. I shouldn't even be driving, I'm a great driver, but I feel out of control and dangerous sometimes. I do dangerous things.

... this is killing me. I was diagnosed with gluten-sensitivety, most likely Celiac considering I have all the symptoms. I talked to my Mom. She understands. No one knows what to do about it. Everyone else just thinks either it's all psychological (in my head), or I'm just exaggerating it.

Mom says I should consider staying with a friend of hers in MEXICO. I was like, what, mexico..are you kidding me?! ... then I thought about it. I could just chill (I'm not lazy, nor using this as an excuse to be, please understand... I can't live like this. I told Mom I wish there was a way I could kinda lay back and rest and take a break from life in general while I heal, it's killing me, therefore she brought this up)

It sounds extreme doesn't it... but Caroline, my Moms friend, is a health nut. Works at a health store. Eats organic everything, is brilliant, smart, etc etc. I'd be able to just read and heal and learn how to cook, not worry about life for a few months or until this summer or however long it takes for my symptoms to go away. I'd have high-speed internet access, no problem there.

Right now, I avoid everyone at College. I don't want to be there if I can't even enjoy it. I don't want them to see me accidently plug my ipod charger into my cell phone, or forget what day it is three times in one minute.

... this is insane. why am I like this? I need to quit trying to live with it and realize that I do have a serious problem. I've done that. Now I need an escape from life for a while.

Am I out of my mind?! It was my mom who suggested it after all...

the problems I see are

a) No one will understand. People will think I am running away from life. I am not.

B) I might lose my scholarship (I'll do my homework on that before I make my decision). People go on their mission and wait two years before they go to College all the time. It's normal for people to not even start until their 20. I'm 18. Maybe it's not such a big deal if I take one semester off...

c) what if I started feeling better soon? like one month? I guess I'd just deal with the fact that I wasted a semester. I doubt this would happen anyways, I've been this way my whole life and getting worst....

I'm sure theres other problems... but those are the main ones. I'm not worried about being bored. I can read, learn my disease better, learn my diet better, maybe even learn spanish, I don't know... I'd always have my laptop and internet too. Could study things I've always wanted to study too, like real estate, not this school stuff that'll hardly make me any money =P

most importantly, I'd be able to focus my life on health for a while. Rest. Get better. And this takes time. And I can't do it while I'm in school, working 35 hours a week and doing pilot training.

Maybe I should just keep doing what I'm doing. but I can't focus, my head feels like an ocean and sometimes I feel good, but usually I feel like... bleeping shi-stuff. I can even live with the pain, I'd do it in a heartbeat. That's not the problem. THe problem is I can't do anything right. I'm unoperable. Not even able to do anything in a logical sequence. Doing everything wrong. Constantly making mistakes. Can't even balance out a checkbook, well, i can but it takes a ton of concentration and I have to reread it a thousand times to make sure I didn't use the wrong lines or something, because I generally do.

Wow. Long rant.

What do you guys think... I want to make sure I'm not going crazy, which I think I am.


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Jestgar Rising Star

I think it's a great idea.

There is no point in torturing yourself while you're healing. If you have a safe place to hide out for a while - Go For It!!

If you are sure about the internet access, talk to the counselor about doing a couple classes on line to keep you in the college swing, and also protect your scholarship.

For sure you should have summer off and could go then. At least you'd have a break.

Guhlia Rising Star

Brain fog is a horrible, horrible thing. I don't think that staying with your mother's friend in Mexico sounds like a bad idea AT ALL. Actually, it sounds like a great idea. Perhaps you could go for only a short time, like a week, so you don't lose your scholarship. Even a week or resting is better than none. Go rest and recooperate! Also, if you're working in a pizza factory, chances are you're NOT gluten free. Flour will get in your mouth, up your nose, all over you and I don't think there's any way to not end up ingesting it. Finding a new job would be my first step if I were you. Hope you get to the root of things soon. I know how horrible it feels to be sick and have no end in sight.

GFBetsy Rookie

Kody -

If you have a deferral because of medical reasons, I don't think they can take your scholarship away. Double check with your scholarship office, though.

Also, have you tried pulling milk out of your diet as well? Casien (the protein in milk) can cause that brain fog feeling, too. Just an idea.

Good luck!

HawkFire Explorer

Gluten free DAIRY FREE, look into what parents of autistic children have discovered. It is too complicated for me to explain. You should remove dairy. In the meantime, look into MS. Perhaps you have MS.

Ursa Major Collaborator

Kody, I think going to Mexico for a while is a fantastic idea. I agree, if you need to take a break for medical reasons, you won't lose your scholarship. You need to obviously talk to the college about it first, and get the official approval. It is obvious that you can't function right now.

Also, maybe taking one or two courses long distance (same college, same courses you're taking now) might be an option, too.

You need a break. Even if you're losing a year of school, it isn't really a loss. Nothing you do is ever wasted, and resting and healing so you can do great, instead of just muddling through, would certainly not be a waste of time.

I say, GO FOR IT! You're very young, travelling and learning another language will help you grow in many ways as well. What an opportunity!

ArtGirl Enthusiast

I ditto the "go for it"

Sounds like a great place to regroup and heal. From the description of your present condition, I don't think you have a choice. Don't wait until you completely crash. Sounds ilke you've been given good advise to keep your scholarship while you recover.


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Mal Explorer

can i come to mexico with you....PLEASE

im practically going through the same stuff here at my college, and im not sure either if i want to take a semsester off or not

i know how your feel, it blows doesnt it

i know that didnt help one bit at all, i just felt i needed to express my same feelings.

Kody Rookie
can i come to mexico with you....PLEASE

im practically going through the same stuff here at my college, and im not sure either if i want to take a semsester off or not

i know how your feel, it blows doesnt it

i know that didnt help one bit at all, i just felt i needed to express my same feelings.

Hell yeah you can come! ... well, I should probably ask Caroline first =p (the lady in Mexico)

thanks guys... when your mind is like this you never know when you're thinking clear or not. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy. And yeah, it is a great idea, only one problem tho... what if I don't get better?

I'm seeing an allergist, going to get tested for dairy and what not. As of now, I'm dairy free and probably not gluten-free, only because of my pizza-delivery job.

and yeah, I can't live like this, it isn't worth it. I need to fix my health before anything else. IMO, it's the most important thing anyways.

Kody Rookie
Gluten free DAIRY FREE, look into what parents of autistic children have discovered. It is too complicated for me to explain. You should remove dairy. In the meantime, look into MS. Perhaps you have MS.

WHOA! I bet I do have MS... I just started researching it. MS also causes hearing loss, something that I have. hm... wow, interesting, I'm researching it still so I still don't know much but would a regular family doctor be able to diagnose this? what is the treatment... hm... I'll find out here in a minute... thanks for the suggestion.

Ursa Major Collaborator

Kody, gluten can cause MS symptoms. As can Aspartame. Do you drink or eat things containing Aspartame (Nutrasweet)? Just an idea to rule that out.

Quit your job, I think that should be a priority. I know you need the money, but it isn't worth losing your health over a job.

Only if your health doesn't improve after you are truly free of all gluten should you consider MS. Also, other intolerances could cause you to have those symptoms. All foods containing lectin make me feel glutened. Check out my lectin link to find out more.

kbtoyssni Contributor

It's really hard to do something that people don't expect of you. You know it would be best for your health to take some time off of school, but it's not the norm so you're trying to stick it out. I was in grad school when I got really sick from celiac. The brain fog and fatigue made it impossible to get to class or think to study. I dropped out and it was the best decision I've ever made. I came home, got well and now I am healthier than I've been in years. I probably wouldn't be in such a good place right now if I hadn't dropped out. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty if you need to take time off to get well. This is about you and your life and you have to do what's best for you, not what everyone else thinks is best.

Oh, and the pizza factory??? Can you find a different gluten-free job?

HawkFire Explorer

Don't be afraid of ms. It can be better to discover what is the underlying cause of your health issues and combat them.

Go to your regular doctor. They will request a consult with a neurologist. They can look for damage to lead to an MS diagnosis. There are medicines available to help alleviate some of the brain fog. Nutrients, suppliments, diet. B12 is good.

Guest nini

I'd go for it, heck, I want to give it all up and move away right now... I want to run away.

Guest Kathy Ann

Kody,

Absolutely quit that job TODAY. Being around all that wheat could be the ENTIRE reason for your delayed recovery and why you still feel rotten. You may have never been free from gluten at all. Don't waste any more precious time. Get it out of your system asap by avoiding gluten like the poison it is. I also agree that eliminating dairy would be a very wise addition.

Did you do the enterolab genetic test? Do you mind sharing your results? I'm just curious because I have severe similar problems and have been told it is because of my specific gene makeup.

I dream of getting away every day. Anyone who is hurting does. Please take advantage of this great opportunity since most of the rest of us can't. Do it for all of us! :)

SchnauzerMom Rookie

I agree with the others here. Going to Mexico sounds like a great idea. You need to rest and take care of yourself. The pizza job probably is the source of your problems, all that flour in the air. You definitely need to find a different job, when you get back from Mexico.

tarnalberry Community Regular

I concur with the advice to drop the job like a hot potato. It's not a good fit for you anymore. And do try dairy free, regardless of the allergy tests. I am casein intolerant, but it's an IgG intolerance, and those don't show up on allergy tests.

If Mexico sounds like it's the right idea for you, give it a go. Three months out of your life to recollect yourself after such a change isn't 'running away', as long as you're trying to get better. Most scholarships can be postponed - even for non-medical reasons.

rinne Apprentice

Yes, get away from the Pizza factory. The gluten in the air, and gluten is in the air in a place like that, will be enough to make you ill.

When I was 23 I worked in a bakery and was sick, migraines started and brain fog, I would come home from work and fall into a stupor, I would sleep for a while and wake up feeling like I had a hangover. That was almost thirty years ago and I had no idea about Celiac, I thought it was the sugar. :(

Mexico sounds wonderful. :)

daffadilly Apprentice

Kody, if you are smart you will not walk back into that pizza place. Better to starve than to slowly kill your self. Forget about MS most MS is really misdiagnosed celiac. there are only a couple of experts in the U.S. that can tell the difference between celiac lesions in the brain and MS lesions.

let me recap:

1. DO NOT go near the pizza place - it is killing your brain...

2. take a B12 eveyday

3. Learn about nutrition & improve your diet

4. Have a good time in Mexico on your sabatical

5. take the book "dangerous Grains" and "SuperFoods" with you

6. oh yea - have a good time - & remember when you are old, you never regret the things that you did, only the things that you did not do !!!!

Devon Newbie

Hi I'm new here, but just wanted to say "go for it!!!!" too. I went through college with Gluten Intolerance, and Fibromyalgia. I stuck it through because I thought it was the right thing, but I really regret doing that. Every day was so hard for me, and I remember thinking the same exact thing of how I can't take it anymore, every single day. No one understood, and teachers gave me such a hard time because I seemed "out of it", because they couldn't understand brain fog. If there is a time in your life where you can take a break from everything it's college. Once you're out of college, it's A LOT harder to do that. I learned that the hard way. If you have the chance to get away from everything for a while, definitly take it while it's there, because it won't be there forever...

Kody Rookie
Kody, gluten can cause MS symptoms. As can Aspartame. Do you drink or eat things containing Aspartame (Nutrasweet)? Just an idea to rule that out.

Quit your job, I think that should be a priority. I know you need the money, but it isn't worth losing your health over a job.

Only if your health doesn't improve after you are truly free of all gluten should you consider MS. Also, other intolerances could cause you to have those symptoms. All foods containing lectin make me feel glutened. Check out my lectin link to find out more.

If my insurance will pay for it, shouldn't I just go ahead and get tested for MS anyways?

I seem like both, Celiac and MS... have all the symptoms to both, well most. My hearing loss is hereditary... so it may not be from MS. But my hands being freezing cold, feet being freezing cold and the tingling and all... and frequent urination, that's what makes me think I could have MS. All the other MS symptoms I have are also Celiac symptoms. Well, unless the ones I just listed are Celiac related as well?

It's really hard to do something that people don't expect of you. You know it would be best for your health to take some time off of school, but it's not the norm so you're trying to stick it out. I was in grad school when I got really sick from celiac. The brain fog and fatigue made it impossible to get to class or think to study. I dropped out and it was the best decision I've ever made. I came home, got well and now I am healthier than I've been in years. I probably wouldn't be in such a good place right now if I hadn't dropped out. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty if you need to take time off to get well. This is about you and your life and you have to do what's best for you, not what everyone else thinks is best.

Oh, and the pizza factory??? Can you find a different gluten-free job?

You're right. And yes I can, quitting soon.

Don't be afraid of ms. It can be better to discover what is the underlying cause of your health issues and combat them.

Go to your regular doctor. They will request a consult with a neurologist. They can look for damage to lead to an MS diagnosis. There are medicines available to help alleviate some of the brain fog. Nutrients, suppliments, diet. B12 is good.

I've been taking all those supplements, especially B12 and other vitamins and iron. like crazy, actually, at least once a day.

I was also tested positive for gluten sensitivity. Why i think I have Celiac. otherwise wouldn't those supplements help?

Kody,

Absolutely quit that job TODAY. Being around all that wheat could be the ENTIRE reason for your delayed recovery and why you still feel rotten. You may have never been free from gluten at all. Don't waste any more precious time. Get it out of your system asap by avoiding gluten like the poison it is. I also agree that eliminating dairy would be a very wise addition.

Did you do the enterolab genetic test? Do you mind sharing your results? I'm just curious because I have severe similar problems and have been told it is because of my specific gene makeup.

I dream of getting away every day. Anyone who is hurting does. Please take advantage of this great opportunity since most of the rest of us can't. Do it for all of us! :)

I didn't do the genetic tests, just the stool one. The result was:

Date: 10/23/2006

Name: Knudson, Cody

Gluten Sensitivity Stool Test

Fecal Antigliadin IgA 12 (Normal Range <10 Units)

Interpretation of Fecal Antigliadin IgA: Intestinal antigliadin IgA antibody was elevated, indicating that you have active dietary gluten sensitivity. For optimal health, resolution of symptoms (if you have them), and prevention of small intestinal damage and malnutrition, osteoporosis, and damage to other tissues (like nerves, brain, joints, muscles, thyroid, pancreas, other glands, skin, liver, spleen, among others), it is recommended that you follow a strict and permanent gluten free diet. As gluten sensitivity is a genetic syndrome, you may want to have your relatives screened as well.

This was also after being gluten-free for about a week... and I was still positive.

Hi I'm new here, but just wanted to say "go for it!!!!" too. I went through college with Gluten Intolerance, and Fibromyalgia. I stuck it through because I thought it was the right thing, but I really regret doing that. Every day was so hard for me, and I remember thinking the same exact thing of how I can't take it anymore, every single day. No one understood, and teachers gave me such a hard time because I seemed "out of it", because they couldn't understand brain fog. If there is a time in your life where you can take a break from everything it's college. Once you're out of college, it's A LOT harder to do that. I learned that the hard way. If you have the chance to get away from everything for a while, definitly take it while it's there, because it won't be there forever...

yeah all of you guys are right... and thus I am right as well, hah. did you have the kind of symptoms that I have though? freezing hands and feet included? did you do the crazy poop I mentioned in my first post? dude it's eating my alive. Recovering will be perfect for me, because when I'm healthy, I'll be ready to dominate the world.

Kody, if you are smart you will not walk back into that pizza place. Better to starve than to slowly kill your self. Forget about MS most MS is really misdiagnosed celiac. there are only a couple of experts in the U.S. that can tell the difference between celiac lesions in the brain and MS lesions.

let me recap:

1. DO NOT go near the pizza place - it is killing your brain...

2. take a B12 eveyday

3. Learn about nutrition & improve your diet

4. Have a good time in Mexico on your sabatical

5. take the book "dangerous Grains" and "SuperFoods" with you

6. oh yea - have a good time - & remember when you are old, you never regret the things that you did, only the things that you did not do !!!!

yeah, you're right... most MS is really misdiagnosed celiac? you're serious? how legit is this? =p not that I don't trust you... yeah I think I have Celiac, I mean I was tested gluten sensitive... but is frequent urination, freezing hands and feet part of Celiac? can it be?

You guys have great advice. I knew posting here was a good idea, now I'm confident with my decision. Probably won't be for a little while before I get to leave though... going to finish up this semester, one more month. Gotta finish what I started. Then I'm off to heal. Meanwhile, I'm quitting my job.

And yeah, I was going to take advantage of this opportunity to just learn everythign I can about this disease. About nutrition, allergies, etc. Ingredient labeling, all the shiz. It'll be the perfect time to learn everythign while I'll have nothing else to do.

You guys rock.

Ursa Major Collaborator

Yes, seriously, all your symptoms could be caused by celiac disease. Also, you could be low thyroid. Check out this website, and keep track of your body temps for a while to see if you may have that problem. It could potentially be causing your hands and feet to be cold all the time, as well as some of the other symptoms. Open Original Shared Link

You're right about finishing this semester, you almost made it. Then, after Christmas, you'll be ready to head for sunny Mexico. I don't think you'll regret it. You're only going to miss one term that way, but have until next September to heal and figure things out.

HawkFire Explorer

I know three people in my town who happen to have ms. I have told all about celiac disease. None have celiac disease. I do not believe that most ms is misdiagnosed celiac disease. Ms can exist independent of celiac disease. You may not have ms. You may have simple celiac disease that has become quite uncomfortable. Please rule out ms since your symptoms can suggest it. It does need to be monitored if it is what you have. The women I know with ms are doing very well. Their symptoms are managed and under control unless there is a bad flare up. That is rare with each of them.

Edit.. I also knew a man some years ago dx with ms. We are not friendly, but I see him occasionally since he moved and even last summer, ten years after his ms dx, he says he is doing great. He looks very well, so I take that as evidence of the ms being manageable.

AndreaB Contributor

Cody,

I repeat what everyone else has said. Quit your job, take advantage of the opportunity to take a sabbatical.

Another possibility with the cold limbs and tingling could by lyme. That is also highly undiagnosed. You would need to be tested through Igenix labs though. Come on over to the OMG thread, the girls there will give you lots of info. I think something was posted about a number of ms patients (I forget the number, it was a really high percentage though) really having lyme. Such a tangled web.

Nantzie Collaborator

I think that getting away from that pizza place will be a huge difference. I have a feeling that that will end up being a big thing.

And definitely GO to Mexico! One semester isn't going to hurt a thing. And your health is so much more important. Just think of how much better your grades are going to be once you feel healthier.

Nancy

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      So, essentially all of the nutrition in the food we eat is absorbed through the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestinal track that is damaged by celiac disease. This villous lining is composed of billions of finger-like projections that create a huge amount of surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the celiac person, when gluten is consumed, it triggers an autoimmune reaction in this area which, of course, generates inflammation. The antibodies connected with this inflammation is what the celiac blood tests are designed to detect but this inflammation, over time, wears down the finger-like projections of the villous lining. Of course, when this proceeds for an extended period of time, greatly reduces the absorption efficiency of the villous lining and often results in many and various nutrient deficiency-related health issues. Classic examples would be osteoporosis and iron deficiency. But there are many more. Low D3 levels is a well-known celiac-caused nutritional deficiency. So is low B12. All the B vitamins in fact. Magnesium, zinc, etc.  Celiac disease can also cause liver inflammation. You mention elevated ALP levels. Elevated liver enzymes over a period of 13 years was what led to my celiac diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes normalized. I had elevated AST and ALT. The development of sensitivities to other food proteins is very common in the celiac population. Most common cross reactive foods are dairy and oats but eggs, soy and corn are also relatively common offenders. Lactose intolerance is also common in the celiac population because of damage to the SB lining.  Eggs when they are scrambled or fried give me a gut ache. But when I poach them, they do not. The steam and heat of poaching causes a hydrolysis process that alters the protein in the egg. They don't bother me in baked goods either so I assume the same process is at work. I bought a plastic poacher on Amazon to make poaching very easy. All this to say that many of the issues you describe could be caused by celiac disease. 
    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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