Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Bad Knees And Scatterbrian


floridanative

Recommended Posts

floridanative Community Regular

I was wondering if a torn miniscus in the knee (or both actually) without an injury could be attibuted to eating gluten. Both knees went bad in about a three month span but there was no injury or fall the person had that it can be blamed on. She thinks it's just her age (63) combined with her being about 40 lbs. overwieght.

Next question - could someone be scatterbrained as a symptom of having undx'd Celiac? I know someone whose hair started falling out due to low seratonin levels in the brain. Lexapro reversed that issue but now she's forgetting things like picking up her son from daycare after saying she was on the way there to someone on the phone.........

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Lisa Mentor

Scatterbrain could definatly be a symptom, although I have several friends with this condition, who are not celiac. :rolleyes: I would lump that into the "brain fog" symptom. I do remember driviing down the road and totally forgeting where I was going. And I would start a sentence and not remember what my point was and stopped in mid stream.

The knee issue, perhaps that could be age related and weight related, but don't think is is celiac related.

CarlaB Enthusiast

They could, joint pain and brain fog can be caused by celiac.

But don't limit your options. Bad knees and that level of disorientation can also be attributed to Lyme Disease. I regularly battle mental confusion ... my family keeps close tabs on me.

floridanative Community Regular

Oh my! Never would have thought of Lyme disease. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on the situation.......just found out some info that would explain some of the scatterbrained incidents. The knee person has been off gluten for about 10 months so gluten won't do anymore damage at least. They want her to have surgery on both knees at the same time next month. Seems better to split them up but I'm sure the doctors like their fees sooner than later.

CarlaB Enthusiast
Oh my! Never would have thought of Lyme disease. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on the situation.......just found out some info that would explain some of the scatterbrained incidents. The knee person has been off gluten for about 10 months so gluten won't do anymore damage at least. They want her to have surgery on both knees at the same time next month. Seems better to split them up but I'm sure the doctors like their fees sooner than later.

Yeah, my own Lyme affected my knee very badly. Now it's fine. It comes and goes. It's a common joint to be affected. TMJ is another common joint to be affected by Lyme and I have very significant TMJ problems, which is why I currently wear braces .... it's the last stage of about $10k of dental work to fix it.

Guest cassidy

I had torn cartilage in both my knees at age 18. I was getting out of a car and I couldn't straighten one of them. I had to have surgery the next day. I never had an injury or did sports or anything. 6 months later it happened to the second one. They had to remove a lot of cartilage from one of them and I have never been able to run. I was not overweight and I didn't have anything to attribute this to. I totally think it was due to gluten.

Guest adamssa

hello,

both can be celiac, but brain fog can be caused by many, many, many different things, so it's best to look at other symptoms as well.

sara


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ursa Major Collaborator

Yes, both could be caused by celiac disease. Hair loss can be caused by it as well.

But both hair loss and being scatterbrained can also be due to low thyroid levels.

And yes, the knee problem could be caused by celiac disease, or an intolerance to lectins, or Lyme disease........ there are so many possibilities.

I have bad knees, especially the left one has been giving me trouble for the past 20 years. Right now it is hard to go up stairs, as that awful shooting pain could hit any time. I don't know what exactly caused it. It's somewhat better since being off gluten.

jerseyangel Proficient

I've never thought of myself as having knee problems, but I was reminded just this morning that frequently, while walking down the stairs, my right knee feels like it could buckle under me and give out. Also, sometimes, it gets sore if I put weight on it, but I really never connected it to Celiac.

Although Ursula talked about lectins, and I'm intolerant to most of them.

Scatterbrained is a given :ph34r: , and I only have about half the hair I used to. Doctor says my thyroid levels are fine--but now I'm learning that the common testing for thyroid are not always accurate.

This stuff never ceases to amaze me.....

Ursa Major Collaborator
I've never thought of myself as having knee problems, but I was reminded just this morning that frequently, while walking down the stairs, my right knee feels like it could buckle under me and give out. Also, sometimes, it gets sore if I put weight on it, but I really never connected it to Celiac.

Although Ursula talked about lectins, and I'm intolerant to most of them.

Scatterbrained is a given :ph34r: , and I only have about half the hair I used to. Doctor says my thyroid levels are fine--but now I'm learning that the common testing for thyroid are not always accurate.

This stuff never ceases to amaze me.....

Patti, if I eat rice or eggs especially (or gluten), my knees and ankles will give out on me, and I have to make sure I hold onto the handrail when going down the stairs, as I am afraid of falling. My wrists won't work then, either, and I can't lift anything heavy, because they will give out, too.

jerseyangel Proficient
Patti, if I eat rice or eggs especially (or gluten), my knees and ankles will give out on me, and I have to make sure I hold onto the handrail when going down the stairs, as I am afraid of falling. My wrists won't work then, either, and I can't lift anything heavy, because they will give out, too.

Ursula,

That's so interesting, because I only eat rice no more than once a week. Any more, and I get GI symptoms--but I didn't link them to the knee issue.

On Tuesday, I made Christmas cookies using rice flour and potato starch. They looked so good, I ate quite a few of them. Ever since, I've had bloating, gas, a sore knee and wrist pain. I would usually just shrug off the knee and wrist pain, but now I really wonder.

Like you describe, in both the wrist and knee, the feeling is that they will give out. Thanks--I'll be paying closer attention to it from now on. :)

cause&effect Newbie

Check out this web site Open Original Shared Link Read the Adrenal info and Thyroid and click the link to DRRIND.com for more info about glandular symptoms.

Low adrenal function can cause muscle and conective tissue weakness. It plays a part in food intolerences and can be brought on by autoimune conditions and ill health in general.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,026
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    thegoik
    Newest Member
    thegoik
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.