Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Saw The Ped Today & He's Not Happy With The Gastro.


vampella

Recommended Posts

vampella Contributor

So we saw the ped today after seeing the HORRIBLE gastro on Thursday. she was rude, why are you here if she's no longer sick, why are you waisting my time? and if the ttg say's neg it's neg they are 100 % accurate and so on, I left in tears.

Her ped say's he believes it's celiac's and not to worry about that gastro and agreed that I should file a complaint against her with the college of physicians & surgeons, So I am.

He said don't you dare take her off the gluten-free diet and doens't want to see her for 2 months unless she's not doing well.

he also said that some people take tests as being the be all and end all when they aren't, no test is 100% right from the peds mouth.

I said ya I work in veterinary medicine and I could give her 20 examples of tests being inaccurate.

Has anyone else ever come across Dr's that think tests are 100% and if it's neg that's all there is to it?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



MySuicidalTurtle Enthusiast

Good for you for not listening to her. Some doctors do not want to look at the results from actually living on the diet but rather what their tests say, so, you know she feels better gluten-free and that's that.

taweavmo3 Enthusiast

My experience has been that a doctor will not recommend the diet until there is a positive blood test. Even when I explained to our pediatrician how much better my 2 year old was doing on the diet (blood test was -) he said it was simply a coincidence, even with the strong family history. Unfortunately, I know the feeling all too well of leaving a doctors office in tears, as I'm sure many on here do!

Sounds like you have a GREAT pediatrician.....forget the GI doc, and just keep up the good work!

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

I had a doctor actually LIE to me and tell me my tests were normal--and they were not.

I'm sorry you had such a frustrating day, but at least you have a good ped, and I am glad you are fililng a complaint!

tarnalberry Community Regular

I'm sorry you had such a rotten experience with the GI, but that's great that your ped's working with you so well!

happygirl Collaborator

Char:

I will spare you the details (which I affectionately refer to as my sob story :D )

90% of the doctors that I have seen since my health odyssey started 3 years ago fall into the camp of your gastro. In general, I tend not to get along particularly well with GIs. Only one (a doc at Johns Hopkins) fell in the same camp as what I believe (Celiac, gluten intolerance, gluten allergy, at this point---who cares what it is. Gluten is a problem for me, end of story).

I am really happy that you have a ped who sees the obvious. It makes such a difference to have that support!!!!

prinsessa Contributor

My son's GI doctor told me that the blood tests were almost 100% accurate. I haven't found any data to back that claim up. She wanted me to do a endoscopy on him, but I just don't feel it is necessary. I decided to keep him on a gluten free diet and he has gain 3 lbs in the last 3 months. He jumped a couple of percentiles in height and weight, so I know the diet is working. My regular doctor has no problem with me trying the diet on him for a while to see if he gains weight.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Juliet Newbie

Here is a GREAT link that talks about the accuracy of the antigliadin blood tests - Open Original Shared Link . Basically, there is no 100% foolproof blood test, but it's pretty close IF someone is eating enough gluten for a long enough period of time before taking the test. It took me awhile to understand it, but once I did it helped me to understand why even doctors might not get it. But there are definitely no absolutes. That's why the "gold standard" is still the biopsy, however as others have discussed, unless there is very extensive damage, it may be difficult to find any damage in the intestines since it's not visible to the naked eye.

laurac Newbie

Hi-- Just wanted to add my story about blood tests etc.

My son is 8yrs old now and was officially diagnosed on Halloween via biopsies which his GI from Children's Hosp in Boston said was the only definitive test. I need to back up a little and say that he was treated by the same GI from 3 to 5 yrs old for other issues which may or may not have been Celiac related. ( He was in a body cast which caused all sorts of problems plus he has renal issues which can be related to bowel issues) Anyway, before he was discharged originally by the GI he did have a Celiac blood panel ordered and it came back completely negative. (My husband has celiac disease).

Fastforward 3 years and my son was soooooo underweight and had the big distended belly and dark circles under his eyes. I brought him to the ped and she said he hadn't gained 1 ounce in over a year but had grown 2 inches so he was actually losing weight and ordered the panel again and sent us right back to the GI. His numbers were very high on several aspects of the test. Even the GI said he was neg 3 yrs ago and this seemed to upset him. He ordered the biopsies which were not that big a deal and my son did not mind at all and these came back pos and he has pretty extensive damage to his gut.

I guess the reason I tell you this is because tests can be very inconclusive and definitely not 100% accurate.

He is gluten free and is doing very well. He doesn't miss the old food because he feels so much better and doesn't look yellow any more.

Laura C

2boysmama Apprentice

Oh yes - we had a similar experience with a pediatric GI doctor. To add insult to injury we work for the same hospital and she KNOWS me ! :angry: She also believed that because my son's celiac panel was negative then he CAN'T be having issues with glutens, and when I refused to allow her to do the biopsy she was no longer interested in helping us out. She said "the celiac diet sucks and it's really hard." and when I told her about EnteroLab she nearly came unglued and said "they're scam artists."

:angry:

He's had WONDERFUL results with the celiac diet, as have DH and I. It was hard to adjust to at first, but now that we've adjusted we're so happy we switched and will never go back to the way we used to eat (and feel!).

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Aretaeus Cappadocia commented on Scott Adams's blog entry in Gluten Busters: Gluten-Free Product Alerts by Celiac.com
      7

      Simple Mills and Made Good Foods Products May Contain Gluten Levels Above the FDA's Allowable Limit of 20 ppm

    2. - Russ H replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      27

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    3. - GFhappygirl commented on Scott Adams's blog entry in Gluten Busters: Gluten-Free Product Alerts by Celiac.com
      7

      Simple Mills and Made Good Foods Products May Contain Gluten Levels Above the FDA's Allowable Limit of 20 ppm

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Mihai's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      28

      Pain in the right side of abdomen

    5. - Heatherisle replied to Mihai's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      28

      Pain in the right side of abdomen

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,709
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Michelle Tampakis
    Newest Member
    Michelle Tampakis
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Russ H
      Shingles vaccination also provides some protection against dementia: https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/major-study-finds-new-shingles-vaccine-could-lower-risk-dementia
    • knitty kitty
      @Heatherisle, You have good reason to worry.   Ask the doctors to do an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity Assay to test for Thiamine B1 deficiency.  Thiamine deficiency is frequently found in B12 deficiency.  Deficiencies in all the B vitamins are common with malabsorption due to Celiac disease.  Thiamine can run out in as little as three days.   Thiamine deficiency symptoms can be mistaken for other diseases such as MS and Guillian-Barre Syndrome.  Thiamine deficiency symptoms include pain in legs and abdominal pain as well as depression and gastrointestinal symptoms. Thiamine B1, Pyridoxine B6 and Cobalamine B 12 together relieve nerve pain. References and Interesting Reading: Wernicke’s encephalopathy mimicking multiple sclerosis in a young female patient post-bariatric gastric sleeve surgery https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8462913/ Thiamine Deficiency Masquerading As Guillain-Barré Syndrome https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11872742/ Dry Beriberi Due to Thiamine Deficiency Associated with Peripheral Neuropathy and Wernicke’s Encephalopathy Mimicking Guillain-Barré syndrome: A Case Report and Review of the Literature https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6429982/ Is there a Link between Vitamin B and Multiple Sclerosis? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28875857/ Thiamine Deficiency and Neurological Symptoms in Patients with Hematological Cancer Receiving Chemotherapy: A Retrospective Analysis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8559079/ The Effects of Vitamin B in Depression https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27655070/ Thiamine Deficiency Neuropathy in a Patient with Malnutrition due to Melancholic Depression https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10942818/ Myopathy in thiamine deficiency: analysis of a case https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16920153/ Neurologic complications of thiamine (B1) deficiency following bariatric surgery in adolescents https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38705013/ B Vitamins in the nervous system: Current knowledge of the biochemical modes of action and synergies of thiamine, pyridoxine, and cobalamin https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31490017/ Neurological, Psychiatric, and Biochemical Aspects of Thiamine Deficiency in Children and Adults https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6459027/ B Vitamin Deficiencies and Associated Neuropathies https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12855320/ Concomitant Vitamin B1 and Vitamin B12 Deficiency Mimicking Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9887457/ Update on Safety Profiles of Vitamins B1, B6, and B12: A Narrative Review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7764703/  
    • Heatherisle
      Hi  There’s been no mention of her adrenal glands as far as I know
    • Theresa2407
      Have they checked her Adrenal glands.    
    • Heatherisle
      Just an update on my daughter. She is still in hospital and getting quite depressed about everything. She had a CT scan of head and chest to rule out stroke in view of her symptoms. Thankfully there is no evidence of that so they now want to do an MRI to rule out MS so this is freaking her out and it’s not doing me much good either!!!They’re also going to do further blood tests to check vitamin levels. My husband and I are trying to reassure her the best we can that hopefully it’s just her body’s reaction to having the Vitamin B medication and it’s affecting her nervous system etc. Think the tingling has subsided but still having some lower back and pelvic pain and some leg pain. Thanks for reading and my apologies if I sound paranoid.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.