Facial Moisturizers & Public Soap

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I'm confused about moisturizers (and cosmetics). I use oil of olay w/ sunscreen and haven't been able to tell if it's gluten-free. When I;ve asked questions of cosmetic co.s they mostly seem to be willing to tell me the ingredients, but not if it's gluten-free.

I'm still trying to figure out which ingredients are bad, but even aside from the individual ingredients, are there other things I should worry about? I.e., cross-contamination? I keep getting told I shouldn't worry since I don't eat these things, but I'm not comfortable.

Recommendations for a facial moisturizer with sunscreen? And something for treatment - anti-aging, anti-wrinkle or something like that? A good black mascara?

My other questions is about hand soap. I use Method from Target (its website says the line is gluten-free) and Dial antibacterial. But I don't know about places I go outside my home. How do others handle this? Not worry about it? Carry it? If so, how?

Sorry so many questions. I'm just so confused and I've been avoiding these things altogether. Any advice appreciated.

[ravenwoodglass]

Your Oil of Olay is most likely not gluten-free. I called the company a short time ago a was told that only the lotion that was for sensitive skin with no perfumes was safe. I use the Garneir line with the bright green bottles, that is all gluten-free but I am not sure about the hair products. I just checked on the skin stuff. I use the daily lotion, scrub with microbeads and the facial wash all with no problems.

As far as the soaps in public restrooms I would not touch them. I simply wash my hands with water and friction and then rewash with my soap as soon as I walk through the door at home.

[Judyin Philly]

Ravenwoodglass

What kind of shampoo do you use?

Seems you very sensitive like me to topical contact?

I got that from the other shampoo thread which I have now left.

Not getting anywhere on that thread.

Thanks Judy

Grey, I was wondering about the soaps in public bath rooms too!

Usually carry some with me for my use.

Also , after swimming, I once forgot my soap and used the soap in the dispenser and paid dearly for it.

Judy

[confused]

A good black mascara is physicians formula brand, you can get it at walgreens, im sure walmart probably sells it to. I love it. All the physicians formula stuff is gluten free. I think a tube is like 8 bucks, but i have had mine for 2 months and have long and thick eyelashes, so i think it is pretty good lol

paula

[jerseyangel]

I agree about the Olay--when I emailed them, they gave me a buch of jabber--the bottom line was I had to call and ask. Then I was told that they can't guarantee any of their products. I got the feeling they didn't want to be bothered with us.

I never use public restroom soap. I use a paper towel or tissue in my hand so I don't have to touch anything directly. Then, I just rinse my hands under running water.

I called Garnier about their "Long and Strong" shampoo and conditioner, and they are both gluten-free. The rep there was very nice and helpful.

In addition to Garnier, I love ShiKai Everyday shampoo and conditioner--both gluten-free per phone call. Some of their products do contain gluten, but the Everyday ones don't. They also don't have SLS (a strong detergent) and my color tends to stay true longer with it. Plus, I love the smell It is so hard to find a "natural" conditioner that dosen't contain gluten. This one is really pretty good.

Grey--I use Neutrogena Moisture Lotion with SPF 15. I verified it is gluten-free by phone, also

Paula--Thanks for the Physicians Formula info. I'm going to try their mascara. I've been using Smashbox--it's gluten-free, but I have to order it and it's much more expensive.

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I'm glad to hear it wasn't just me who got unhelpful responses from Olay - they were the first call I made re. skin/makeup/soap and I became really confused, overwhelmed, and kind of depressed about how I'd ever figure this out.

I use Garnier shampoo, and they were nice (thank goodness). I haven't tried the long and strong version, but may look for it as I have very long hair -- and i'm not ready to try salon logistics yet!

Target is on the agenda for today - I like Neutrogena, so I'm going to try your suggestion jersey angel & Paula I'm going to look for Physician's Formula mascara.

Thanks everybody!

[ravenwoodglass]

Ravenwoodglass

What kind of shampoo do you use?

Seems you very sensitive like me to topical contact?

I got that from the other shampoo thread which I have now left.

Not getting anywhere on that thread.

Thanks Judy

Grey, I was wondering about the soaps in public bath rooms too!

Usually carry some with me for my use.

Also , after swimming, I once forgot my soap and used the soap in the dispenser and paid dearly for it.

Judy

I use either the Giovanni line, I like the 50/50 shampoo and the Smooth as Silk conditioner or Wegmans baby shampoo. I did just get a bottle of the Garneir conditioner and it came with a shampoo sample. I tried it yesterday and it does seem to be okay. It looked safe but if I haven't called I never want to say for sure unless I have tried it. I am glad to see others use it safely also, sometimes it will take a day or two for the itchy scabs to start. I loose a lot of hair with gluten hair products also so safety is important to my vanity.

For the restroom soap, if I was going to use them more than once or twice a year I think I would just carry a small travel bottle of the liquid soap I use at home.

[lfij]

Ravenwoodglass

What kind of shampoo do you use?

Seems you very sensitive like me to topical contact?

I got that from the other shampoo thread which I have now left.

Not getting anywhere on that thread.

Thanks Judy

Grey, I was wondering about the soaps in public bath rooms too!

Usually carry some with me for my use.

Also , after swimming, I once forgot my soap and used the soap in the dispenser and paid dearly for it.

Judy

really? can someone tell me what soaps HAVE gluten in them? because, i haven't run across any

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tom's of maine moisturizing hand soap has wheat protein in it, for one. It's not the only liquid soap that does, particularly ones that are 'moisturizing' or 'natural.' Tom's is one that used to be used by my secretary, which is why I know about it. Smells great (lavender), but I choose to avoid it and check others. One of my favorite lines, L'Occitaine, has wheat in its hand soaps too, unfortunately.

I haven't gotten a skin rxn (except to Ivory soap, but that's not celiac-related), but I prepare my food with my hands - chopping fruits and veg, cutting meat, and I don't want to have my hand soap be something I have to worry about.

The same thing with cosmetics - I put them on with my hands, and I just don't want to have to think about it. If I end up with mascara running down my face, I wipe it with my hands - why not have it be gluten-free? I don't always have somewhere to wash my hands nearby if I'm travelling or at work.

Some other brands of soap w/ wheat: Roger & Gallet, Mill Creek Botanicals, Korres, Arran Apothecary; oats would be in most Aveeno products, but that's still a debated topic. I doubt they're using the specially gluten-free variety!

really? can someone tell me what soaps HAVE gluten in them? because, i haven't run across any

[lfij]

tom's of maine moisturizing hand soap has wheat protein in it, for one. It's not the only liquid soap that does, particularly ones that are 'moisturizing' or 'natural.' Tom's is one that used to be used by my secretary, which is why I know about it. Smells great (lavender), but I choose to avoid it and check others. One of my favorite lines, L'Occitaine, has wheat in its hand soaps too, unfortunately.

I haven't gotten a skin rxn (except to Ivory soap, but that's not celiac-related), but I prepare my food with my hands - chopping fruits and veg, cutting meat, and I don't want to have my hand soap be something I have to worry about.

The same thing with cosmetics - I put them on with my hands, and I just don't want to have to think about it. If I end up with mascara running down my face, I wipe it with my hands - why not have it be gluten-free? I don't always have somewhere to wash my hands nearby if I'm travelling or at work.

Some other brands of soap w/ wheat: Roger & Gallet, Mill Creek Botanicals, Korres, Arran Apothecary; oats would be in most Aveeno products, but that's still a debated topic. I doubt they're using the specially gluten-free variety!

i guess i was just asking about the public type soap or like normal soap like dove, dial, etc. I don't use anything fancy like those lol.

[Karen B.]

i guess i was just asking about the public type soap or like normal soap like dove, dial, etc. I don't use anything fancy like those lol.

General hand soap in a pump is not something that usually has gluten but I've run into some very upscale soaps in those pumps so if you have a topical reaction, I can understand the caution. One place I go, I always forget and use the soap pump and it's a lavendar scented soap that I can't get to rise off my hands and it makes me sneeze. And I always forget until it's on my hands and I smell it. I can rub my nose an hour later with that stuff on my hand and I'll still sneeze. Ewww!

The anit-bacterial soap at my office is jokingly referred to as paint stripper because it breaks out everyone's hands. When you dry your hands after using it, it leaves your hands rough, dry and with tiny white lines. That's not a Celiac issue, just a cheap soap issue. :-)

[TrillumHunter]

really? can someone tell me what soaps HAVE gluten in them? because, i haven't run across any

This seems sarcastic and baiting considering the other conversation in which you are currently embroiled. You have made it abundantly clear that you do not believe people can react to topical gluten. This will continue to come up so perhaps you should consider avoiding these posts? If you feel it necessary to educate us you can post any relevant articles that you come across supporting your belief.

[Sinenox]

This seems sarcastic and baiting considering the other conversation in which you are currently embroiled. You have made it abundantly clear that you do not believe people can react to topical gluten. This will continue to come up so perhaps you should consider avoiding these posts? If you feel it necessary to educate us you can post any relevant articles that you come across supporting your belief.

I believe you're overreacting to the poster. It's a valid question that they're asking and not one that pertains at all to topical reactions. They're simply trying to get at the heart of whether common bathroom soaps (the sort that you encounter in public restrooms) often contain gluten and how to recognize them. Your vitriol was not warranted.

[Juliebove]

You can get soap leaves to carrry in your purse. They are usually scented and you would of course have to check the ingredients. I sometimes do not use soap in a public restroom if I am unfamiliar with it. My daughter and I have additional allergies though and we do react topically. If I do use it, I use only one small drop the first time and rinse really well. There are places we go all the time where I have tested their soap and know it is safe. Otherwise I use caution.

[Lisa16]

A good black mascara is physicians formula brand, you can get it at walgreens, im sure walmart probably sells it to. I love it. All the physicians formula stuff is gluten free. I think a tube is like 8 bucks, but i have had mine for 2 months and have long and thick eyelashes, so i think it is pretty good lol

paula

Oooh Confused-- watch out!

I have recently been on a cosmetics/ toiletries info finding tear (got glutened from lipgloss-- dh blisters) and Physicians Formula makes this statement on their website:

FAQs

Q. Does Physicians Formula products contain Gluten?

A. Unfortunately, we cannot guarantee that none of the ingredients, or derivatives in our products do not contain gluten.

Perhaps you have been lucky so far, but I wouldn't recommend that sensitive people buy PF products. My own rectionas are so severe that I will go with a company that can say they are gluten free with no reservations. There are someout there. Why take the risk?

And for anybody who doubts you can get a reaction from cosmetics/ shampoo/ creams, I would tell them to go to my website where I put pictures of the Dh reaction. It can happen.

Lisa

[MelissaKay]

I have had severe dh since i was 13 years old, it has taken me until NOW at age 22 to find out why.

I now am almost completely dh free. Here's how:

Almost all beauty products have Tocopherol Acetate/Tocopherol Panthenol or some variant, This is also known as Vitamin E. This is WHEAT. Sometimes, it can be cottonseed or vegetable derived, but usually its a blend of wheat or just plain wheat. Stay away from it until u call the company and ask.

ALL CETALPHIL products contain gluten!!! I used to use their face wash, moisturizers... everything and had terrible skin...

Look at your makeup ingredient... Tocopherol Acetate/Panthenol/Vitamin E... Wheat Protein/Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein.... Etc Etc.

I worked at Fashion Bug, and I have worked at Walmart... and my dh would get sooo bad... HERE IS WHY:

Clothing Manufacturers douse their clothing in STARCH to make them look nicer hanging on a hanger.

When u go shopping... Have someone else carry your clothing for you! do not try them on!!!!! seriously. When u do buy clothes, wash them twice, then try them on, if you don't like them... return them. It is not worth it to suffer for weeks just to see if something fits at the store. I have been glutened over and over and over again because of this.

Use: dove beauty bar for sensitive skin to wash face and body

neutrogena pore refiner toner

Neutrogena pore refiner moisturizer spf 15

dermarest eczema moisturizer

smashbox makeup primer

afterglow cosmetics (they are after all made by a celiac...)

Thanks!!!!

[Crayons574]

I'm glad to hear it wasn't just me who got unhelpful responses from Olay - they were the first call I made re. skin/makeup/soap and I became really confused, overwhelmed, and kind of depressed about how I'd ever figure this out.

I use Garnier shampoo, and they were nice (thank goodness). I haven't tried the long and strong version, but may look for it as I have very long hair -- and i'm not ready to try salon logistics yet!

Target is on the agenda for today - I like Neutrogena, so I'm going to try your suggestion jersey angel & Paula I'm going to look for Physician's Formula mascara.

Thanks everybody!

I would watch out for Physicians Formula. On their website, they said they cannot guarantee that any of their products are gluten free

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[Crayons574]

I have had severe dh since i was 13 years old, it has taken me until NOW at age 22 to find out why.

I now am almost completely dh free. Here's how:

Almost all beauty products have Tocopherol Acetate/Tocopherol Panthenol or some variant, This is also known as Vitamin E. This is WHEAT. Sometimes, it can be cottonseed or vegetable derived, but usually its a blend of wheat or just plain wheat. Stay away from it until u call the company and ask.

ALL CETALPHIL products contain gluten!!! I used to use their face wash, moisturizers... everything and had terrible skin...

Look at your makeup ingredient... Tocopherol Acetate/Panthenol/Vitamin E... Wheat Protein/Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein.... Etc Etc.

I worked at Fashion Bug, and I have worked at Walmart... and my dh would get sooo bad... HERE IS WHY:

Clothing Manufacturers douse their clothing in STARCH to make them look nicer hanging on a hanger.

When u go shopping... Have someone else carry your clothing for you! do not try them on!!!!! seriously. When u do buy clothes, wash them twice, then try them on, if you don't like them... return them. It is not worth it to suffer for weeks just to see if something fits at the store. I have been glutened over and over and over again because of this.

Use: dove beauty bar for sensitive skin to wash face and body

neutrogena pore refiner toner

Neutrogena pore refiner moisturizer spf 15

dermarest eczema moisturizer

smashbox makeup primer

afterglow cosmetics (they are after all made by a celiac...)

Thanks!!!!

I called Cetaphil the other day, and the only gluten free product they have is the "Gentle Skin Cleanser."