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Oh, No... Not Corn Too : (


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luciddream928 Explorer

I recently had bloodwork done to check for anemia, thyroid, (and a celiac panel, even though I'm on a gluten-free diet. From everything I've heard/read, you have to eat gluten to have accurate tests but my doc seems to think differently - he says the antibodies stay in the blood, but that's another story.)

So after about 10 days of being able to digest NOTHING and living on rice bread and boiled chicken, I was finally symptom-free for about 3 days.... until last night. I ate tuna with mayo on a corn tortilla. 2 hours later I had the usual suspects: gas, bloating, and the following morning after a corn-based breakfast I had the big D. Thinking it might be the eggs in the mayo, this morning I had the same corn-based breakfast cereal, then experienced stomach upset with nausea.

G*D does it END.

The blood panel all came back normal. The doctor still wants to do a "biopsy" (meaning endo & colonoscopy) in the beginning of the year, and I have an appt. scheduled with the allergist to check for gluten (can they check gluten, not sure), eggs, wheat, dairy, corn, and whatever else they can prick me with.

This 1/2 rant and rave, 1/2 seriously wondering whether I'll get any clear answers. If my diet is any indication, eggs or corn can be an issue. I'm hoping it's the former, because corn is in EVERYTHING.

Anyone have a similar experience, with normal bloodwork and symptoms like this? They are thinking it's Crohn's or ulcerative colitis at this point. I think those are autoimmune Dx's but I'm not sure. The jury still seems to be out on whether or not gluten has to do with the immune system, though it seems to be related to autoimmune disorders from what I've read in a few books.

If I eat one more rice cake, I'm going to turn into one.


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You're right... corn is in a LOT of stuff. If you can't eat gluten or corn then 95% of breakfast cereals are off limits :blink: I've been off corn for two months and I'm still learning! Right now I'm battling cornstarch.

I had the same result on the blood test. Negative after six weeks on the gluten-free diet. I also had the skin-prick test for allergies... 100% negative.

How long have you been off gluten? You might still get results from a biopsy. I think you're smart to keep checking on other possibilities.

Have you thought about trying the SCD diet? It's very strict, but it's also very healthy and would give you lots of new ideas (rice cakes are forbidden). Plus, it seems to give a lot of people results when nothing else is working.

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I had the same result on the blood test. Negative after six weeks on the gluten-free diet. I also had the skin-prick test for allergies... 100% negative.

How long have you been off gluten? You might still get results from a biopsy. I think you're smart to keep checking on other possibilities.

Have you thought about trying the SCD diet? It's very strict, but it's also very healthy and would give you lots of new ideas (rice cakes are forbidden). Plus, it seems to give a lot of people results when nothing else is working.

It's hard w/ no corn. I'm not sure if my issue is corn or eggs - I had both that night, and my corn cereal didn't bother me this morning. I'll have to wait and see. You must have a hard time - you found out you have an allergy or you can't tolerate it?

I've been off gluten for 4 months, but I think I keep slipping up. Hard to tell if it's me slipping up or IBS.

I have a book on the SCD - it's so strict that I'm having a hard time warming up to it. I'll try it if nothing else works, but I am really frustrated as it is. It's like, I'd need a weekend to just go shopping for the main ingredients in that book and get a handle on a few recipes. I might look into it more in the future. It's got some good recipes in there, though ; )

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My daughter and I have IgG allergies. This is something that a standard allergist generally doesn't believe in, but it's very real. I am allergic to eggs and my symptoms are like yours. Daughter used to be allergic to gluten but is no longer. She has outgrown some of her allergies and can now eat those things but is to have them no more than twice a week and not on susequent days.

We did go to an allergist and we do not have any IgE allergies.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast
It's hard w/ no corn. I'm not sure if my issue is corn or eggs - I had both that night, and my corn cereal didn't bother me this morning. I'll have to wait and see. You must have a hard time - you found out you have an allergy or you can't tolerate it?

My son gets terrible eczema on his face from corn. I don't think it's a true (IgE) allergy... it takes at least a day for it to show up and at least a week to go away. Since he's still breastfeeding I also had to take corn out of my diet... I was really amazed at what a positive effect it had! Even being gluten-free and casein-free, I was still having some mild problems with abdominal pain, bloating, and headaches.

Sometimes... after the intestines have healed... celiacs do outgrow intolerances (not to gluten, but to other foods like dairy and corn). For other people it's a permanent problem.

I planning to try the SCD/anti-candida diet starting in January. I'm hoping it's temporary! Not that I want to eat a diet filled with junk food, but you're right that the SCD is very strict.

julirama723 Contributor

I have a similar situation to you!

I had been gluten-lite for basically 3 years, with patches of being totally grain-free and gluten-free. I went in for the celiac panel, and everything came back normal, but they did not test total IGA. I found a new doctor, had them run another celiac panel (though I'd been gluten-free), checked TSH, CBC, metabolic panel, etc. Everything came back normal except one thing; it turns out I'm IGA deficient, which meant my celiac panel was basically null and void. (My TSH also came back "normal" at 3.2, but I discovered that the testing range is outdated and 3.2 means I'm slightly hypothyroid. ALWAYS examine and question your lab results! Get copies!)

I did a gluten challenge and kept a food log with foods, symptoms, BMs, etc. The doctor was VERY concerned with the dramatic (and negative) changes in symptoms as compared with gluten-free--he did not diagnose me celiac, but ordered another celiac panel and scheduled a colonoscopy (to rule out other GI problems) and an endoscopy with biopsies. My celiac panel results were elevated since my last appointment (though still in the normal range) and I'm waiting for the biopsy results. I'm not sure that I was consuming gluten for a long enough time on the challenge, but I did it as long as I could, it was MISERABLE!

I've also found that corn gives me almost IDENTICAL symptoms to gluten. Other grains do not sit well with me either. I've had to give up dairy, which I did not notice any problems with until I went gluten-free.

I have an appointment with an allergist in a couple weeks to have testing done for food allergies. If that doesn't yield much, I'm going to look into naturopathy as well.

I'm also considering SCD--I'm going to speak with the allergist about this as a way to pinpoint food intolerances. (I'm having trouble figuring out a couple of foods, something still gives me symptoms though I'm gluten-free again.)


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I am going through something similar. I have a problem with dairy wheat and corn. I figured out corn by eliminating the wheat and dairy. I was feeling better but was still having some problems. I was skin tested for corn (as well as all the other foods I could think of) but the bump on my arm wasn't big enough for them to call an allergy. My doctor said that it is Celiacs (no tests other than the allergy testing which was fine with me)She put me on a diet to see if it worked. That is when I found the corn problem.

I am now on a raw diet (4 days allergy free). I have been juicing to get vitamins and I have not been buying anything processed. You can't possibly believe what corn is in. I am also eliminating dairy and wheat/gluten. I know what you are going through.

I won't lie to you. I feel better but I have blood sugar problems so when I can't find anything to eat I get mad (drop in blood sugar). It is a very difficult diet. I lie to myself and pretend I am doing it to be skinny again :)

Here is a link to a list I found on another girls website:

Open Original Shared Link

This has helped to eliminate corn from my diet and to feel better!I have been emailing companies about their products and hopefully I will hear from them soon. Feel free to email me if you need help mhaber at outerbanksproductions dot com

Keep your chin up. Try the diet if you can. I got a steamer, a juicer, and a lean mean grill to cook meals fast. This might help you! Have a great night!

I recently had bloodwork done to check for anemia, thyroid, (and a celiac panel, even though I'm on a gluten-free diet. From everything I've heard/read, you have to eat gluten to have accurate tests but my doc seems to think differently - he says the antibodies stay in the blood, but that's another story.)

So after about 10 days of being able to digest NOTHING and living on rice bread and boiled chicken, I was finally symptom-free for about 3 days.... until last night. I ate tuna with mayo on a corn tortilla. 2 hours later I had the usual suspects: gas, bloating, and the following morning after a corn-based breakfast I had the big D. Thinking it might be the eggs in the mayo, this morning I had the same corn-based breakfast cereal, then experienced stomach upset with nausea.

G*D does it END.

The blood panel all came back normal. The doctor still wants to do a "biopsy" (meaning endo & colonoscopy) in the beginning of the year, and I have an appt. scheduled with the allergist to check for gluten (can they check gluten, not sure), eggs, wheat, dairy, corn, and whatever else they can prick me with.

This 1/2 rant and rave, 1/2 seriously wondering whether I'll get any clear answers. If my diet is any indication, eggs or corn can be an issue. I'm hoping it's the former, because corn is in EVERYTHING.

Anyone have a similar experience, with normal bloodwork and symptoms like this? They are thinking it's Crohn's or ulcerative colitis at this point. I think those are autoimmune Dx's but I'm not sure. The jury still seems to be out on whether or not gluten has to do with the immune system, though it seems to be related to autoimmune disorders from what I've read in a few books.

If I eat one more rice cake, I'm going to turn into one.

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